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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.05.13 06:04:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP's Path To Kali press-release
The upcoming expansion to EVE Onlineùcodenamed Kaliùwill introduce an innovative Advanced Reactive Content System (ARCS), in which the political landscape and physical borders of nation-states within the game can be altered dynamically through the collective outcome of player actions, thus directly controlling the game universe destiny and resulting storyline.
But if players will be able to take over the empire systems by their collective actions, doesn't that mean that the more players are aligned to a faction, the more systems they will take over? Considering that currently there are most Caldari pod pilots in EVE, that'd mean that Caldari automatically win. Doesn't sound very fun for the rest of players to be honest.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.05.13 06:09:00 -
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i dont think it would auto-align you for your race, otherwise many corps would end up split 4 ways...
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Sig removed BEFORE the mods got to it bahaha -mazzilliu
But we can play with it after. ~kieron
that should be considered an exploit >[ -mazzilliu
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2006.05.13 06:10:00 -
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yea so... how do you plan to rectify this? make people buy more accounts and use other races than Caldari?
the population of different races anywhere plays one role... a role that doesnt need to be monitored... its survival of the fittest... nature... more of them is gods way.
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.13 06:19:00 -
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They may have more numbers, but our PVP skillz > Numbers.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.13 07:38:00 -
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They'll have to balance it out somehow. We'll see 
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Sonorra Baki
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Posted - 2006.05.13 07:53:00 -
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The Caldari are always annoying us by trespassing, interrupting our parties, and ripping our limbs off!
run run the caldari is arriving!
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:50:00 -
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More numbers does not mean guranteed victory.
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Zirator
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:54:00 -
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I think that it will only possible to claim border systems. It would make no sence for players to be able to roll up complete empires. Cause that will probably mean the end of EVE.
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GLok
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:55:00 -
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CALDARI FTW 
But dont forget all those n00b raven pilots. You really expect them to put up a decent fight. They cant even protect themselves against pirates
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.05.13 09:56:00 -
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I wonder if the Caldari will be split by their three political factions?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:02:00 -
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I take it that quote is about the factional warfare thing, which is more about pvp than pve.
now, try to tell an npcer to put himself in a position where they could lose their ship *to another player*, and not be able to "setup for the best resistances before hand because I know what mission this is". 9/10 won't do it.
and finally, the majority of people "aligned" to caldari state are nub npcers anyway who don't know the first thing about pvp. just setup to face ravens and you're sorted :)
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:02:00 -
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If factions warfare becomes unbalanced, one easy way to bring people over to a faction that has less numbers is offer better rewards for that faction.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
I wonder if the Caldari will be split by their three political factions?
Split into Caldari Navy and the other two pilots?
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 13/05/2006 10:16:44
CCP won't allow to you to totally defeat the other side anyway.
And I like the underdog role anyway. If the masses are against you, the winning team joiners leave, but you stay with like-minded and have some success, it's the biggest ego boost I can get out of a game and you have a lot of fun.
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:46:00 -
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ccp please dont make something foolish it can be fatal u cant undo a thing in mmorpg like we saw in galaxies...i cant say this is bad move...but if its i can quit eve like most of the crew who bored in this situation
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Nicholas Barker
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:54:00 -
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they're not stupid, stop *****ing.
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Jinx Barker
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Posted - 2006.05.13 12:14:00 -
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Ok, to all the tinfoil hats people, and "OMG the Sky is Falling" crowds:
There is already a system in place, if you didnÆt know, or chose to ignore it, for Factional Warfare. The interminable "Gallente Election" campaign: by this example we can see that in Kali people will be able to register for one faction or another. It doesnÆt mean that all Caldari will be lumped into one, nor does it mean that Amarr, Minmatar and Gallente will do the same.
Also, there are plenty of people who are doing agents and running missions cross-faction. Which means that they will most likeley go with whomever they have the highest standing. So, the world is not coming to an end, and Caldari are not takig over - I wish we did.
So, stop with this crazy stuff, and wait till we actually see tangible proof that the ôsky is fallingö. Better yet, I think there are still few paranoid threads in Alliance Forums about BoB, why not go there and cause ruckus, and talk about how BoB is taking over the world and is part of the greater GM/CCP conspiracy?
ôThe Pinky, the Pinky, the Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brainà.ö
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iiOs
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Posted - 2006.05.13 14:17:00 -
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There is a very, very easy way for them to balance it out. Base the influence that 1 character's actions has on the overall "collective" on the ratio of players in each of the factions on at the time of the action.
In other words, if the percentage of players in each of the 4 factions at the time of the action is something like 40% caldari, 20% gallente, 20% minmatar, 20% amarr, then they could use some kind of mathematical formula to weight the actions of the other 3 factions other than caldari so that the caldari players actions have less weight individually, but collectively their possible combined actions have the exact same influence as the combined acions of the other factions.
I'm not sure of the mathematical formula which they would use for this, because there are 4 factions and I don't feel like trying to figure it out. But with 2 factions it would be something like this example:
500 players on at this time in faction A
250 players on at this time in faction B
The solution therefore would be to make the actions of each individual player in faction A have 50% of the "effect" of those in faction B. Collectively, it would be a 1:1 ratio, in terms of the overall possible power of each faction.
Using this power is the option of each of the individual faction members. And the fact that there are more players in faction A would not effect the overall result of the battle.
I imagine they'd use something like this. In Dark age of Camelot, unbalanced RvR killed the game. Itwould still be going strong if not for that. The solution there would have been population caps/limits, so that all realms were of equal population. But I'm sure CCP can come up with a much more elegant solution than caps/limits. They've always made the spot on choice when it comes to improving the game.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.05.13 14:50:00 -
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Factional warfare a a HUGE project. I mean really think about all the crap involved in making the empire borders dynamic and organizing players into rival fighting forces and giving meaning to it all. It's like a whole game in itself. I wouldn't worry about them missing an issue as obvious as this during the year it will take to make it.
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Biscuit
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:37:00 -
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Well if it does ever come down to having too many caldari ingame, i wouldnt mind changing to gallente And im guessing theres some way of doing that, just isnt very easy for the devs to do...(and no, not talking about the character/picture swap you can pay for)
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Fortior
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:39:00 -
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I think this, among other things, is why Factional Warfare won't make it into EvE until beginning of 2007.
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Lala Ru
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Posted - 2006.05.13 17:50:00 -
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That, or the other three factions realize how powerful the Caldari are and all gang up on them.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:12:00 -
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Factional warfare will be optional. CCP has no choice but to make it so.
Also, it has to be your choice as to whom you support. Otherwise, CCP make the versatility of races nearly null and void for eveyone interested in this feature. You;d get a situation where new players join teh strongest faction, compounding the issue untill we get a one-sided fight.
Now, at this time the risk of that happening is rather meagre. Since it hasnt been part of eve yet, those players that should swing the balance of power in the feature are part of groups of mixed race. Rac hasnt meant much outside of the rp community so far, so it's impact (given a choice of whom to fight for that is not tiedto your race) shold be neglible at this point.
The fact I am Gallente doesn't mean I'll support the Gallente faction. If anything determines my alignment it's my corp and the affiliation it decides upon. This will go for most of the pilots in organised corps, which are exactly the lot that should be of relatively highest influence on the outcome of this bash.
So, no, caldari won't pwn all. In general the Caldari race is regarded by most (I think) as a crappy race which is nice for agent runners and new players. It would actually be the last race I'd personally choose to support really, even altho I can fly Caldari ships quite decently.
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:16:00 -
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I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll have to actually Do Stuff(tm) in order to Win(tm).
Not just log in and look at your new borders. Call me crazy.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:21:00 -
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Undoubtedly, CCP will tweak the factional warfare so that it makes sense within the storyline.
The number of Caldari pilots means close to nothing, especially if you consider how mercenary the mentality of a lot of them are - I'm positive that a huge number of them will be fighting for the other factions.
The number of pilots doing missions in Caldari space *is* a consideration, but again, I'm sure CCP will tweak things so they work.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:37:00 -
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I'm aligned with the Caldari State and I have never owned a Raven 
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Caldari Patriot.
Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
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Sorethen
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:55:00 -
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Ok I missed it where is this Path to Kali press release at?
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.13 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Sovy Kurosei on 13/05/2006 19:12:01
Originally by: Sorethen
Ok I missed it where is this Path to Kali press release at?
EDIT: Better link here.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.05.13 19:14:00 -
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I'm Caldari 100%. I will probably fight for them when I get more income 
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.13 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Originally by: Adonis 4174
I wonder if the Caldari will be split by their three political factions?
Split into Caldari Navy and the other two pilots?
Yep.
Besides, it's not like people will be forced to align with their bloodline's empire.
There's a few scummy Caldari ni the Republic and Federation, not that it'll stop us.
Just hand over Caldari Prime now and we promise not to hurt you, much.
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