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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:25:00 -
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As everyone knows "you never go full ******".
after reading the new Dev blog that just came out i have come to see some good things and some really, really bad things.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337246&p=1 I am placing this forum post under crime and punishment because i think what CCP is doing is a crime against not only industrialists in EVE but EVERYONE in eve.
The grand scale of things is this
CCP awhile ago tried to introduce Micro transactions with the Incarna expansion in order to make more Real World Money, and as a Ex business owner i completley understand the bottom line. Because of what Micro transactions would have done to the game 5k players stood up and said NO!
CCP still being a business is of course going to look for alternative ways of Making money and they figured it out. There Plan is to cause prices of PlEX to skyrocket because of Odyssey and it's Dual character training http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/dual-character-training/ . after the Plex Prices stabilized they checked the bank and realised it wasn't enough so they decided to come out with Ship Paint http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ship-painting-pilot-program/ . yeh i know we wanted ship paint but not like this 
So Miles how does this Effect EVERYONE like you state?
well for those that can't live on EVE this will cause them to break out the credit/debit card which is great for CCP ... they meet some magical number they want in there bank but they fail to see the entire picture. For those that Leave EVE do to the fact they can't afford to pay with a credit or debit card they take In game and out of game content with them (more empty regions less market competition less pvping less guides websites forums blogs less news about eve just less in general).
this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's.
As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
Disband.
1104
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:31:00 -
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Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17820
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Posted - 2014.04.15 21:00:00 -
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Amely Miles wrote:
As everyone knows "you never go full ******".
You did exactly this in your post 
I have DinsdaleGäó branded tin foil headgear for sale, I even offer a discount if you buy in bulk.
Quote:So Miles how does this Effect EVERYONE like you state?
well for those that can't live on EVE this will cause them to break out the credit/debit card which is great for CCP ... they meet some magical number they want in there bank but they fail to see the entire picture. For those that Leave EVE do to the fact they can't afford to pay with a credit or debit card they take In game and out of game content with them (more empty regions less market competition less pvping less guides websites forums blogs less news about eve just less in general). WatGäó?
Can I have a TL;DR that makes sense, because this is just mindless rambling.
Quote:this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's. War is good for business, and business is good. You should also be making your concerns known in the appropriate thread, not in C&P.
Quote:As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card. Bullshit, I've seen PLEX prices increase threefold since I started Eve, people are still paying for their game time through their efforts ingame, and will continue to do so. It's not like -ú10/$15/Gé¼15 a month is going to break the bank for anybody, that's not even beer money.
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Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
3648
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Posted - 2014.04.15 21:12:00 -
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I honestly don't understand what the issue is?
Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.
That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Eleisa Joringer
Les chips electriques
0
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Posted - 2014.04.15 21:23:00 -
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If you complain about the rise of plex price, watch out the price of pos fuel soon .
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Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:43:00 -
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Amely Miles wrote:this upcoming Expansion has great Industrial UI .... thats about all the good stuff i see. the loss of the ability to remotley research and remotley manufacture for Industrialists is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing) , this will also increase the amount of war decs to remove the POS's that litter moons as well as trying to get POS's to drop BPO's.
As a Side effect of needing to replace stolen or ganked bpo's because you now need to take them to the POS it will increase the cost of BPO's/BPC's as well as EVERY single thing in EVE, an additional side effect is even more people leaving the game because at this point they will not beable to sustain eve without a credit/debit card.
Because getting stuff out of a POS under siege in High sec is hard I guess? My industrialist has always done research and manufacturing with the blue print at the POS. Also you get a 24 hour notice to clear your POS of anything valuable... Anyone who loses blueprints to a war-dec is an idiot and deserves to lose their ****...
Please Q.Q more
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm.
Black Flag Society
225
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Posted - 2014.04.16 04:53:00 -
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It could have something to do with that 24 million dollar failure called WoD they might be trying to get some money back from.
LP store weapon cost rebalance |
Winchester Steele
985
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:36:00 -
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Honestly, you are making way to big of a deal out of this. Mostly no one gives two ***** about your bpo's in some backwater Hi-Sec system. You just aren't that important. The only people who really need to worry are the ones who draw attention to themselves with hilariously bad posts like this one.
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Praxis Ginimic
Dead Men Rising
Ushra'Khan
787
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:00:00 -
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Amely Miles wrote:
WAAAAA WAAAA WAAAAAAAA
I can't plex 8 alts any more. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Welcome to EVE
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:13:00 -
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i'm one of the people that live on eve 8-14 hr days normaly 
there is no QQ here and the point is not about me and what i need to deal with inorder to get around what CCP is throwing at us i've already figured out some of it and am starting to implement the workarounds already the point is not everyone will beable to deal with the changes and are going to in effect die out taking player content with them. |
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Winchester Steele
987
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:28:00 -
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Amely Miles wrote:i'm one of the people that live on eve 8-14 hr days normaly there is no QQ here and the point is not about me and what i need to deal with inorder to get around what CCP is throwing at us i've already figured out some of it and am starting to implement the workarounds already the point is not everyone will beable to deal with the changes and are going to in effect die out taking player content with them.
The bottom line here is that you posted this in the wrong forum if you want sympathy. Post in the Dev Blog thread. Anywhere else and you're just troll food.
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Bumsicle Wedgie
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:04:00 -
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What, you mean you haven't been stockpiling plex for years like the rest of us?
Go me / us. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2466
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:19:00 -
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Personally, as someone who mines at their keyboard with only one account... I'm loving the PLEX price hike. It means fewer bot fleets to compete with.
Nullsec in a Nutshell:
http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Jint Hikaru
Truly Transdimensional
The Nova Foundry
1185
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Posted - 2014.04.16 10:45:00 -
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Um, we told CCP that we wouldn't stand for anything other than vanity items in the Aurim store. We also told them that $70 for a single item was insane.
So now they want to make some extra $$$ by selling ship paint (Vanity Item) at around, whats the price? a buck? a couple of bucks?
Why all the Broo-Ha-Ha??? Good for CCP.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
792
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:53:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it.
Or they can punish me instead  |
Praxis Ginimic
Dead Men Rising
Ushra'Khan
788
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:42:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I honestly don't understand what the issue is?
Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.
That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot.
This... it happens every year and every year some people cry about it like it is the swan song of the death of eve.
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
793
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:44:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:I honestly don't understand what the issue is?
Plex prices are mostly due to the fact that ISK is alot easier to make now. Don't forget the time of the year either. Fanfest guys can use their ingame isk to buy plex to pay for their fanfest tickets. Alliance can also use plex to pay for their tournament entries.
That is one shyte load of plex and every year this time plex prices rose up alot. This... it happens every year and every year some people cry about it like it is the swan song of the death of eve.
I will admit PLEX prices have gone up quite a bit in the last year. I don't think it will be the death of Eve though |
Butzewutze
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:02:00 -
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Quote:sts is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing
Well, you could also try and play with others in this MMORPG. Maybe thats the point... |
Sarah xCalibre
Aggressive Stance
Outbreak.
45
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:21:00 -
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Butzewutze wrote:Quote:sts is just going to cause 1 man corps to spring up even more then currently (for those that can afford to run several accounts researching/manufacturing Well, you could also try and play with others in this MMORPG. Maybe thats the point...
BLASPHEMY!
- Sarah xCalibre |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
899
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Posted - 2014.04.16 14:01:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:It could have something to do with that 24 million dollar failure called WoD they might be trying to get some money back from.
..I actually wonder if that 21m (and investment in DUST) could have instead given us an EvE v2.0 re-write, with an infinitely scalable & dynamic resource-allocating architecture (i.e. No TiDi)
Ultimately though the OP mis-interpreted the rage against microtransactions, it wasn't about microtransactions per se' -- it was about microtransactions as pay to win. i.e. Game play affecting purchases.
Microtransactions for purely cosmetic features (i.e. ship skins) are just fine thank you, and no issue.
p.s.
Who do I have to pay to get an alliance logo on the side of my ships, or better yet a kill count of skulls like fighter pilots in WWII had? (grumble)
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Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
247
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:39:00 -
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This isnt the first time PLEX has hit the 700 mil mark, now is it?
EVE is fine, youl be fine, people who are paying for their subs with PLEX will be fine. Stop wasting precious forum space with bad posts. |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:48:00 -
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..The kicker here is the BPO's in POS.
Best HighSec conflict driver I've seen CCP implement yet. When I read that DevBlog this morning, my head started spinning with ideas of how I/we can use this to engineer opportune situations for us emergent players.
Oh man, I can't wait.
Carebears, brace yourself. Summer is coming.
..HighSec Mischief and Market Advice - http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/ -Latest entry - 4/10/14 -http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/2014/04/spheres-of-explosions-part-two.html? |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
241
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:35:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it.
I'm sure Feyd has put the OP at the top of his list as the reason for his next kill.
Insert Signature Here..... |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
Disband.
1121
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:51:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:admiral root wrote:Your post is certainly a crime. Perhaps someone will punish you for it. I'm sure Feyd has put the OP at the top of his list as the reason for his next kill.
Feyd is a good man.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
579
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:08:00 -
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Syds Sinclair wrote:..The kicker here is the BPO's in POS.
Best HighSec conflict driver I've seen CCP implement yet. When I read that DevBlog this morning, my head started spinning with ideas of how I/we can use this to engineer opportune situations for us emergent players.
Oh man, I can't wait.
Carebears, brace yourself. Summer is coming.
Wow. That just hit me.... the implications are pretty epic.
POS cleanup fleets will be razing hisec.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
53
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:59:00 -
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Exacly,
Say goodbai high sec industry,
Welcome 20 man nestorfleets sweeping & collecting the sweet dropping bpo's & tears.
Welcome T1 & T2 price increase for 20% |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1154
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:51:00 -
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Thread locked.
The Rules:
3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
ISD Ezwal
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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