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Logan Williams	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:37:00 - [31] I'm more inclined to believe that the discussion went something like..... "Well, we proved that we can do it, time to do something else." "Yup." "Yup." I've flown with cDc and against/with CC. If there is one thing that I can surely say is that they're not punks nor cowards.
Kristoffer	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Pattern Clarc Whats all this fear talk coming from? We all know your either too dumb to be scared or too bored to have cared.... initially. BTW, send tasha ya my best, those tech II 1400mm work like a treat. Hey man, when one or two battleship kills is a great victory, well, enough said. Why don't you get over it and deal with it. We inflicted much heavier casualties on your joint iac and iss fleet earlier while being outnumbered 3:1 most of the time. Please, stop flaming and get over it.
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:40:00 - [33] lol yeah doing my best while getting smacked when we have a nap .. But as i wrote we were very scared the whole time i hope that makes you happy ..
Tara Read	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:41:00 - [34] Originally by: 0Virtu0 Somewhere, a PvPer is crying right now. where art thou targets! ________________________________________________ Keeping 0.0 Lethal; Since; Ever; Like its supposed to be.
Dave Tehsulei	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:43:00 - [35] Edited by: Dave Tehsulei on 14/05/2006 00:43:39 Originally by: Pattern Clarc Originally by: Kristoffer We were obiviously to scared to put up these poses in the first place which would obivously draw the attention of ISS, IAC, LV and everyone else. Your so correct, Pattern. Whats all this fear talk coming from? We all know your either too dumb to be scared or too bored to have cared.... initially. BTW, send tasha ya my best, those tech II 1400mm work like a treat. STFU Keep your stupid comments to yourself, you do nothing but hurt ISS Count needs to keep a tighter leash on some of issn's recruits Insert Signature Image Here
Kristoffer	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:45:00 - [36] Honestly, as my last comment on the this subject. We've been fighting two thousand man alliances that occasionally have support from LV, which is a third thousand man alliance. You can smack us all you want. You can pat yourselves on the back all you want. We're not afraid of you, deal with it.
Lord Cyric	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Pattern Clarc They had 3 billion isk of POS equipment ISSN and friends where personally looking forward to vaporising. There was no ISK agreement between the ISS and CDC/CC however they may profit from this through trade and use of our stations... just like every other EvE citizen. To be quite honest the POS we put up in ZXIC were considered a loss when they were deployed, any attack or threat of attack on those structures had no influence on negotiations. Three billion isk is not a large amount of money in this game, if you believe it is a large amount of money for the combined resources of CC/CDC then I am afraid you vastly underestimate us. Originally by: Pattern Clarc As for the knife to a gun fight these CDC fool's have been talking about, how does it feel to have the tables turned?? To be quite honest we spent the entire night and day quivering in ZXIC and fearing the wrath of hell ISS was going to bring down upon us...give me a break, I think the total losses for the operation were 2 battleships, how many did your allies lose? Your attitude is great though, I'm know it will ensure positive standings are kept between the two entities. Members of CDC love being called out on the forums by a self proclaimed neutral industrial alliance.
Pattern Clarc	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Kristoffer Originally by: Pattern Clarc Whats all this fear talk coming from? We all know your either too dumb to be scared or too bored to have cared.... initially. BTW, send tasha ya my best, those tech II 1400mm work like a treat. Hey man, when one or two battleship kills is a great victory, well, enough said. Why don't you get over it and deal with it. We inflicted much heavier casualties on your joint iac and iss fleet earlier while being outnumbered 3:1 most of the time. Please, stop flaming and get over it. Kudos. I could only have expected you guys to repay the same courtesy my corp has shown to your's plenty of times over the last few months... Strangly, when the roles have been reversed, bragging and some out numbers/out gunned ego seem to be your response.
Kristoffer	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:48:00 - [39] Then lets start fresh.
Ehrine Ashbark	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:49:00 - [40] Originally by: Kristoffer Then lets start fresh. Indeed Personally I welcome this. Having more routes in and out of empire as well as more people using the markets in KDF/ZXIC is a good thing. I'm saying this as both a member of the ISS and a shareholder in Marginis. What has happened in the past, is what has happened in the past. Lets bury it and leave it there.
Pehova Mindtriq	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:49:00 - [41] So who are your next target cDc? I would wish you good luck with whatever you do but from experience your enemies will need it more
Alahar Sardokh	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:49:00 - [42] It is so strange to see blue CDC haulers leaving an ISS outpost. Oh well. Personally i was looking forward to see more blows but i understand the agreement may benefit the alliances better. You were a good enemy and smacking levels on local and in forum threads were normal at all times (if we add the non-smacktalking-at-all and the other alliance together). I'm sure we both have, or will have other targets to shoot at btw.
Pattern Clarc	Posted - 2006.05.14 00:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Lord Cyric Edited by: Lord Cyric on 14/05/2006 00:49:35 To be quite honest the POS we put up in ZXIC were considered a loss when they were deployed, any attack or threat of attack on those structures had no influence on negotiations. Three billion isk is not a large amount of money in this game, if you believe it is a large amount of money for the combined resources of CC/CDC then I am afraid you vastly underestimate us. The same could be said about tech 1 frigates.... Although suicide POS sounds more uber What? wher eyou hoping to expend the entire regions ammo supply, then flooding the market with your own ammo at 1000% mark up? Damn... why didn't we think of that??
Kristoffer	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:00:00 - [44] Pattern, you can continue nitpicking. We've prolly used the same arguments in the past to nitpick you. If you don't like us, fine, I respect your opinion and that of anyone else who doesn't. But lets just stop critizing each other and make this newfound 'blue' work.
Lord Cyric	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:02:00 - [45] Originally by: Pattern Clarc Originally by: Lord Cyric Edited by: Lord Cyric on 14/05/2006 00:49:35 To be quite honest the POS we put up in ZXIC were considered a loss when they were deployed, any attack or threat of attack on those structures had no influence on negotiations. Three billion isk is not a large amount of money in this game, if you believe it is a large amount of money for the combined resources of CC/CDC then I am afraid you vastly underestimate us. The same could be said about tech 1 frigates.... Although suicide POS sounds more uber What? wher eyou hoping to expend the entire regions ammo supply, then flooding the market with your own ammo at 1000% mark up? Damn... why didn't we think of that?? Those weren't suicide POS, I said they were considered a loss. They had a role and it was very specific, however I am not going to explain it to you. Perhaps some day you'll understand, but I won't hold my breath.
Pattern Clarc	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:06:00 - [46] Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:09:17 Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:06:50 Originally by: Lord CyricThose weren't suicide POS, I said they were considered a loss. They had a role and it was very specific, however I am not going to explain it to you. Perhaps some day you'll understand, but I won't hold my breath. Please, publicly explain why you did that? If I wouldn't get it at least someone smarter will. It would also give alot of our members an explaination to this farce of a weekend you've put us through. As for friends and friendship? Thats got to be earnt, through respect, trust and co-operation all values not yet displayed by your respective organsations... I am a forgiving man however
Tara Read	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Pattern Clarc Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:09:17 Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:06:50 Originally by: Lord CyricThose weren't suicide POS, I said they were considered a loss. They had a role and it was very specific, however I am not going to explain it to you. Perhaps some day you'll understand, but I won't hold my breath. Please, publicly explain why you did that? If I wouldn't get it at least someone smarter will. It would also give alot of our members an explaination to this farce of a weekend you've put us through. As for friends and friendship? Thats got to be earnt, through respect, trust and co-operation all values not yet displayed by your respective organsations... I am a forgiving man however its obvious you dont have a clue whats going on in this game. stop running your mouth and start shooting your guns. ________________________________________________ Keeping 0.0 Lethal; Since; Ever; Like its supposed to be.
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:22:00 - [48] Originally by: maGz Plz do not respond to Pattern Clarcs obvious flame-bait... I would expect more from ISS in such a thread, and do hope that he's being told off as I write this. In regards to the actual official announcement: Mining in KDF 4tw \o/ Think this was some good advice let him be
Antion	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:27:00 - [49] Let's just leave it at ISSN is disappointed. We looked forward to a good fight, even if we lost, but due to being part of a civilian/industrial alliance, orders are orders. Plus, it ended up being rather boring...
Termanator	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:29:00 - [50] Originally by: Tara Read Originally by: Pattern Clarc Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:09:17 Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 01:06:50 Originally by: Lord CyricThose weren't suicide POS, I said they were considered a loss. They had a role and it was very specific, however I am not going to explain it to you. Perhaps some day you'll understand, but I won't hold my breath. Please, publicly explain why you did that? If I wouldn't get it at least someone smarter will. It would also give alot of our members an explaination to this farce of a weekend you've put us through. As for friends and friendship? Thats got to be earnt, through respect, trust and co-operation all values not yet displayed by your respective organsations... I am a forgiving man however Well First thing is First i cant really speak for CC but cDc Please do not reply to any more of this flame bait he obviously has a health issue, and sits at his PC all day long being retarded.. CC Pilots i also ask you PLEASE do not reply to this Flame Bait. As for The NAP as Gypsy Said there is a good reason for the NAP and it has no real need to be discussed on the PUBLIC forum . ISS please have a word with your pilots or get people like pattern Clarc a leash and a muzzle. As for the lame alts that have ben posting get some balls and post with your mains. this NAP is not up for a public vote its all ready done get over it. The Priory Director
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:36:00 - [51] Intresting _____________________________________________
Kadarin	Posted - 2006.05.14 01:52:00 - [52] As a footsoldier in this operation, I'd just like to say that I enjoyed the fights, and give respect both to CC/CDC command and to ISS/IAC/LV/whoever. Things like this make EVE fun.. I look forward to seeing what the future will bring.
Kyla Cole	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:02:00 - [53] Personally - I find it strange that several hours after the NAP was agreed, the two POS's CC / CDC put up in the system are still fully operational. I mean, how long does it take to offline a POS ? NAP or no NAP - If I were ISS - I wouldn't want two POS's messing with the soverigenty in the system with an expensive outpost in it................... How strange ...............
Grimkill	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:03:00 - [54] Grats to both sides for a well fought tussle,our time wasnt wasted on smack (well not much). All was settled to a mutually benificial outcome. I hope for more excitement over the coming months, beats being bored all week-end anyway
Amaria Amaar	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:06:00 - [55] Originally by: Kyla Cole Personally - I find it strange that several hours after the NAP was agreed, the two POS's CC / CDC put up in the system are still fully operational. I mean, how long does it take to offline a POS ? NAP or no NAP - If I were ISS - I wouldn't want two POS's messing with the soverigenty in the system with an expensive outpost in it................... How strange ............... 2 pos's???? look again
Alahar Sardokh	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:10:00 - [56] Originally by: Kyla Cole Personally - I find it strange that several hours after the NAP was agreed, the two POS's CC / CDC put up in the system are still fully operational. There was more than 2
mamolian	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:42:00 - [57] Edited by: mamolian on 14/05/2006 02:43:08 Thats rather interesting. Hmm -------------------------------
Pattern Clarc	Posted - 2006.05.14 02:47:00 - [58] Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/05/2006 02:48:14 OK... Let me give us all an opportunity to relinqish our furstration here. Looks like we're attempting to sweap the **** underneath the carpet, forgetting about what has happened will only doom us to repeat it. Seriously, I can not speak for the IAC fleet, but you hit them when several personal key personal had either logged or crashed- spy? perhaps but the truth is you only engaged allied forces fleetingly, at your lesuire and for as long as it suited you... Before we could extend the same curtusy to your fleet and assests, we where in NAP. Bravo But seriously, for the public at large who do not have a clue, why did you do this??? (before you bite your lips wanting to scream why but tell me once again how stupid I am... let me suggest this) Did you want to show how vunerble ISS assests where at that time an place? how medium POS's where used to guard Tychos moons instead of death stars? How the ISSN +MC wheren't in the correct area at the time you decided to invade? How susceptible ISS was to thiefs and and sabouters? You could have sent an email, if you wanted to have been all uber ablout it, you should have stuck around and actually fought. If that is, you thought it was worth it. You would have earnt the respect from alot of us - lord knows that you somehow have it in droves with the upper echelons of te ISS. As for the NAP? I'm gunna stay well away from curse for several weeks, i've personally had reports of you guys shooting at ISS members (shooting, but not killing however) Too soon? perhaps, although a wide birth has been something you've taken for granted, something that I am now obliged to give you.
Wwhisper	Posted - 2006.05.14 03:34:00 - [59] This will be my one and only post. First off, let me say what a great series of battles that went down this weekend. It has been fun. I will miss having ISS(N) targets to shot at (hopefully they will miss us). It's been fun watching the ISSN grow in ability. But it's over now. The CC/CDC/ISS have agreed to a ceasefire, the terms of which are no ones buisness but the CC/CDC/ISS. The ISS did not pay the CC/CDC to stop the war, nor were the CC/CDC forced to the table. In fact we were doing well. You need only compare the two killboards to see. (The CC/CDC killboard have been made public, if the ISS wish to do so they will). Would we have continued to fare well? We'll never know. You can speculate all you want. Even I could not tell you what the final outcome would have been. Neither side knows what the other side had up their sleeve, nor will we ever know now. Saying anything else is just showing how much you don't know about warfare. It is enough to know that our leaders said it's over, so it is over. We in Northern Curse can now go back to our peaceful existance, Merc free. To one and all ISS/CDC/CC I salute you on a war well fought. <Salute> FOR CC MEMBERS, please reframe from posting. Please leave all posting to the Raid or Tyrian, Bach or Semp. And yes that goes for me too. Have fun and may the POD be with you. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker
Turia	Posted - 2006.05.14 04:22:00 - [60] Wwhisper's Domi ate my kestrel once.

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