If I didn't have to sit around and wait for skills to train.

If I didn't have to sit around and wait for skills to train.

it really does suck how long it takes to train even the most "basic" things talked about for different aspects of the game right now

If I didn't have to sit around and wait for skills to train.

Like in WoW.

...so, What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

The Summer Expansion approaches and imho, the endless ship rebalancing program and the GÇ£Building better WorldsGÇ¥ announcement is all very nice, but does anyone else feel the frustration and want something new? GÇô some actual new content?

If I didn't have to sit around and wait for skills to train.

EVE staying casual.

Clearly you're not grasping the greater game-scape if that's all you sit around and wait for. No "power-levelling" here... but there's always the option to find a toon in the "Character Bazaar".

When did that happen?!

It has always been. Much more than WoW ever was. But those niches have kept disappearing one by one. A few have been replaced by other game mechanics. Some new ones popped up, but overall more have disappeared and the new mechanics are not to everybodys liking.

Imagine if STTNG was an MMO at it's prime and instead of just knowing about the battle with the Borg at Wolf 359, people actually commanded ships in it?

I guess I mustve missed the casual parts of the game while I was chilling in my ship cloaked doing not much but listening to some sweet Floyd and "eating a sandwich"

EVE staying casual. Doesn't look like it will though.

But I'll wait and see, how the industry changes work out until the end of this year.

Making it so I can anchor a POS anywhere

Not reading the forums..The more I read general the more my interest in the game wanes. Other than that, the further erosion of hi sec to appease nullbears will end it for me.

If I didn't have to sit around and wait for skills to train.

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Not reading the forums..The more I read general the more my interest in the game wanes. Other than that, the further erosion of hi sec to appease nullbears will end it for me.

What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

Hopefully, marriage, children, and, you know, real life are more engaging over the long term than pixellated bullshit.

The only thing that would keep me playing is a complete lack of progress in real life. Hopefully, marriage, children, and, you know, real life are more engaging over the long term than pixellated bullshit.

The only thing that would keep me playing is a complete lack of progress in real life. Hopefully, marriage, children, and, you know, real life are more engaging over the long term than pixellated bullshit.

pixellated bullshit.

Defiance

The tv series which also has a game based on it had players in the game direct the outcome of an episode by their actions in the game.

that's probably the thing that would keep me playing..

"next month, skill X will be trained, after that i'll have Y and Z."

skill queue online is awesome.

Making it so I can anchor a POS anywhere and greatly simplifying the UI (as well as) some kind of team based industry function?

Please, tell me what changes are making it impossible for you to casually play. From what I see, this will make me change training direction of one of my toons to go back to industry. Something I have hated because of how tedius everything is.

Let's go a little deeper here: If I'm lazy (or casual, no dig, but it sometimes has similar consequences), I don't ever have to look for an un-occupied manufacturing facility - I just get to pick one and pay more in taxes. From what I can tell the accessability will be much better for all parts of industry.

What it sounds like you're complaining about is that the NPC station you've lived at in the middle of nowhere will now not be the optimal research, production, and refining facility it once was.



Now CCP - onto NPC corps!

My wife and son will kill me... but no, no it really isn't. IRL is the worst game ever made man lol

... you get the idea,
...so, What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

The Summer Expansion approaches and imho, the endless ship rebalancing program and the GÇ£Building better WorldsGÇ¥ announcement is all very nice, but does anyone else feel the frustration and want something new? GÇô some actual new content?

I agree that some things need fixingGǪ but if you could have some brand new content what would it be?

You think grinding to plex an account and two alts is hard, wait for the wife/partner and two kids.

Will there still be unlicensed mining in hisec? The I will still be playing. Once all of hisec has been subjugated to the New Order I plan on buying a nice wormhole somewhere and retiring. Maybe do some mission baiting occasionally for fun.

...so, What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

The complete removal of the jump mechanic, no jump bridges, no jump drives. All ship movement to be done via gates, integrate warp to 0 into the autopilot.

Well first of all, I just hope the game lasts that long.

Secondly, they need to commit to the game, not the little extraneous crap that keeps cropping up that is unrelated to EVE. That means they need to scrap WiS, among other things.

They also need to get rid of the immergence breaking, binary features in the game. CONCORD being chief among them. As far as a "solution" to highsec aggression goes, it is heavy handed and smothers potential gameplay and mechanic improvements by virture of it existing in the first place.

The last and most important thing is that they MUST update the outdated mechanics in the game. Drones are disgracefully out of date, the POS system is one of the worst mechanics in gaming, and Sov needs fixed desperately. 2 of those are technical limitations, which are presently rendered unfixable largely by neglect. Which is where the "stop wasting time on things that aren't EVE" comes into place. Just think what they could have done with all that dev time in Incarna if they hadn't wasted it on nonsense features.

so, What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

What would keep me playing for another 10 years?

VaporWare getting delayed 10 years.

What would keep me playing for another 10 years?

Star Citizen getting delayed 10 years.

What would keep me playing for another 10 years?

Star Citizen getting delayed 10 years.

What would keep me playing for another 10 years?

Star Citizen getting delayed 10 years.

OMG , is this what we sound like before getting married and having kids ? lol.

Hint, when you reach my age, married (and in my case remarried) for years with teenaged children (and in my case, grown step children who themselves have children) and well established in a demanding career field, the even odds are you will just LOVE/CRAVE/NEED a distraction like EVE Online, if for nothing else but the maintenance of sanity.

Get rid of the scum in EvE. I'll stay.

Exactly! I didn't use to say 'bunny' in everything or be mind numbingly silly....but having two daughters did that to me. Now its all bunnies and unicorns and.....ahhhhhh. Thank goodness for games like Eve to escape into, though I am still a bunny knight

Thank goodness for games like Eve to escape into

Station walk and strip bars owned by players

Exactly! I didn't use to say 'bunny' in everything or be mind numbingly silly....but having two daughters did that to me. Now its all bunnies and unicorns and.....ahhhhhh. Thank goodness for games like Eve to escape into, though I am still a bunny knight

Get rid of the scum in EvE. I'll stay.

Get rid of the scum in EvE. I'll stay.

I'm not the only one here who thinks an EVE without Infinity Ziona is something that would truly be worthy of another 10 years of Subs.

I mean, sure, your (incredibly hypocritical) mental breakdown on the forums as of late has had a pretty high entertainment value, but we're now experiencing a diminishing returns situation regarding said entertainment value.

LOL, with all the money he's gonna save from unsubbing he can afford to go to fanfest to deliver his stern talking to of people!

Cheaper subscription costs would help.
So at the moment 2 accounts (effective gameplay) is -ú20 per month (-ú9.99 for one account) - why not take a gamble and reduce this to -ú6 - -ú7 per month (2 accounts = -ú12 - -ú14)

It is because of my girls (now teenagers) that I sometimes fly around and scream "MUFASA!!!" and singing this song over and over on comms. If I ever got dragged into a bonus room, I was going to be ready!.

INCARNA / WIS... fully and completely... no dicking around because somebody suddenly wanted to go off and waste resources on some silly idea...

Yeah, not holding my breath.

I want to start by saying that this isnGÇÖt intended to be a troll post GÇô I wanted to setup a poll but there doesnGÇÖt appear to be the facility to do it.

The Summer Expansion approaches and imho, the endless ship rebalancing program and the GÇ£Building better WorldsGÇ¥ announcement is all very nice, but does anyone else feel the frustration and want something new? GÇô some actual new content?

I agree that some things need fixingGǪ but if you could have some brand new content what would it be?

As a builder I would personally like to see:
Player built gun platforms for defending destructible outposts.
Player built stargates.
Player built gun platforms for defending player built stargates.
A choice of damage types for fighters per race.
A choice of damage types for fighter bombers per race.
Add a 3rd fighter type, i.e. fighter bombers that fire bombs and fighter craft that fire missiles.
Another empire besides Amarr, Cal, Gal & MinGǪ maybe one of the ancient races or the Jove, and not just the odd incursion.
A new set of regions.
Other classes of T3 shipGǪ why are there just cruisers?
Solar (sun) harvesters GÇô for new building materials.
Point defenses (a group of auto-targeting missiles maybe) for titans at the expense of a Hi slot.

... you get the idea,
...so, What would keep you playing for another 10 years?

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"Get rid of the ridiculous overpowered ECM which fully cripples down ones ship for the full duration of a fight; nerf the ridiculous overpowered ECM down"

...then a player like me would very likely keep playing EVE for the next 10 years (& beyond?) also.

At present I have 2x accounts, both skill training (both having real good skills already)...but, when I consider logging in I ask myself? Why should I logg in? What entertaining things am I gonna go? ...since (battle focussed as I am) I would like to play in low sec or nul-sec, going for the entertaining fights(!) But at present, my many high value ships (which I can easily afford & are willing to burn in fights, as long it is in an entertaining ways/fights)..would be easily totally crippled down by some cheap 20 mil ECM-Cruiser (or even frigates .....) for the full duration of the fight: one cannot even shoot back in such fights(!??). In fact, this represents the very only critisism I have since as in a total I opine EVE is (& could stay) the most fascinating SciFi game there is(!) And if the ECM is severly nerfed than we would see many more new players realy getting enthousiastic about keep playing EVE for the many years to come (..but what players do we see at present being logged in, generally speaking: most are 1st-hour players having 10 to 18 accounts for ISK grindings simultanuously...so, where are the new players, coming in for the real entertainment that EVE could certainly provide when ECM will be nerfed(?) ...)

Besides the above, in my opinion many MMO-players play more than 1 MMO: I myself am subscriber to playing 2 MMO's which I like the most: EVE + SWTOR. So, those players are capable enough to easily detect some extraordinary game- mechanic, realy to be nerfed.

So, my opinion, EVE could be far greater (incl. attracting far more new players) and more interesting for many when they would decide to nerf ECM down severely.

Last: seems lots of veteran players see playing EVE as " doing working hours" ...doing the many ISK grindings for free, almost mechanically. My question: what happened to "FUN & ENTERTAINMENT" commonly known & accepted as the most important reason for gamers to playing MMO's.

In short: I very much like EVE as a total package (great graphics, excellent game mechanics & even having great forums & players community etc.). My only real criticism: get rid of the ridicilous overpowerd ECM.

More pve opportunity for skilled players in highsec. I have spent years in nul and sometimes when I get tired of the nulsec grind(like now) I spend time in highsec running solo. Only trouble is lvl IVs are just not challenging enough. I think nulsec life is great and well rounded but highsec difficulty needs to be expanded.
Why there is an unwritten rule that everything difficult needs to be in nul is beyond me.

Might I suggest wormholes?

Wormholes are great. Lowsec is great. They are their own experiences. Highsec is lacking.

The price of greater safety, I suppose.

yes, penalizing different play styles. Why not make room for ALL playstyles? Criminies sake I've been playing this game for five years. Why not have as many varied experiences as possible?

Highsec does have incursions, after all. But I imagine you're talking about solo PvE encounters, yes?

Because less risk = less reward, or it should.

Highsec does have incursions, after all. But I imagine you're talking about solo PvE encounters, yes?

I'm talking about making more difficult sites in highsec. Difficulty obviously means less safety. Yes incursions are great and very dangerous but the pay is crap unless you use a large group. So essentially they're forcing you to play it safe in order to make money.

Can't speak for him, but for me no, not solo. Something that requires a group while not being quite so limited in responsiveness to the way players respond would be nice. But that's not going to be quick in coming I'm sure.

Though, why does new PvE somehow = greater reward to you? Doesn't even seem that was what was asked for. Or do you consider enjoyment reward that highsec shouldn't have?

What you're saying is "I want better AI, smarter rats to kill".

So do I. So do most of us. But as you said, that will be a long time coming. PvE in almost any MMO setting is not particularly advanced, that's just the nature of the beast.

But would it be really nice to fight these NPC pirates like they were at least something closer to real players, instead of 50 red crosses to get beaten by one guy? Yeah. It would also be amazing if there weren't quite so much difference between PvE and PvP fittings, too.

Confirmed.
Badly balanced gameplay full of griefers and scammers.
Broken mechanics.
Crap leveling system.
You think grinding to plex an account and two alts is hard, wait for the wife/partner and two kids.
More grinding than eve could ever put you through.
Way more idiots, that you have to put up with.

The graphics are stunning though, so there's that.

Real walking stations