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Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum
Exploding Supremacy
183
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:59:00 -
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Hello,
I've been trying to kill mission runners for three days no with no success..so obviously im doin somethin wrong .
I know the flagging mechanics and i have the basics covered but for some reason they stil won't agress me.
I scan them down using a cov ops , save the spot , doc up and swap to a tristan(tried with a magnate aswell) and begin to salvage. When i see a full wreck i loot it to become suspect..at that point they warp off.
I even tried shooting the mtu..still nothing.
Help?
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Tosawa Komarui
Useless Incorporated
QUIET TIME.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:15:00 -
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maby they dont want to agress you |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
580
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:26:00 -
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Where are you doing this at? The more popular systems around the main mission hubs are populated by older carebears who know that someone in their mission pocket can only be a precursor to a bad thing. A good place to start doing this is a level 2 or 3 mission hub. Use the agent locator to find a good one, preferably away from a major trade hub.
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Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum
Exploding Supremacy
183
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:42:00 -
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In the citadel region about , i don't think its close to a major mission hub
Thing is most of my would be targets are year old or less..so far
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Bumsicle Wedgie
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:05:00 -
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Here's a few things I've found that work, or at very least increase your chances.
1. Steal in a hauler - that way they see an easy kill and will often take it. Obviously use an Itty V or similar, tanked with a prop mod, not something very fragile. Once aggressed, warp out, pick up pewmobile and return.
2. Aim for missions with required items, such as Damsel and Worlds. They don't like it when you take them, more so than run of the mill loot.
3. Private convo them once in the pocket and make inferences concerning their parentage. You'll often get laughed at or derided, but sometimes you'll get one that it hits a nerve with.
4. Flip your alt, let him mock you in local for being terrible. Do it twice if need be and post lossmails too. Anything that builds confidence in others that you're not going to come back in something bigger.
5. If you're going to steal in small ships, try a faction frigate. Again it looks like more of a tempting kill for the mission runner.
Good luck to you. My very first crash was a Navy Scorp worth 3b and almost 2b dropped... I haven't looked back since :) |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
241
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:20:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Hello,
I've been trying to kill mission runners for three days no with no success..so obviously im doin somethin wrong .
I know the flagging mechanics and i have the basics covered but for some reason they stil won't agress me.
I scan them down using a cov ops , save the spot , doc up and swap to a tristan(tried with a magnate aswell) and begin to salvage. When i see a full wreck i loot it to become suspect..at that point they warp off.
I even tried shooting the mtu..still nothing.
Help?
Feyd wrote an excellent blog on this.
This will put you on the right path.
Insert Signature Here..... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2619
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Posted - 2014.04.17 01:54:00 -
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Feyd estimates one in 8 take the bait, and other mission invaders estimate that of the ones that do take the bait, 10% do it in an intelligent, effective way (the rest are free kills).
Try a not very well known level 4 mission agent that has moderate traffic.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Praxis Ginimic
Dead Men Rising
Ushra'Khan
789
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Posted - 2014.04.17 02:27:00 -
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Do it in low sec. You'd be surprised to how many little mission hubs are out here. No funny aggro mechanics to worry about either. Of course, finding the blinged out faction battleships takes a lot more searching. The pay out isn't nearly as big but its certainly not unheard of to bag a dozen drakes in the coarse of an afternoon. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4712
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:22:00 -
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Always shoot the MTU. Whether you think they'll take the bait or not.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2621
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:42:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Always shoot the MTU. Whether you think they'll take the bait or not.
This. They leave killmails, at which point you start talking in local about "ah, loot fairy hates me, X, Y and Z didn't drop".
That often gets the missioner a little aggrevated.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
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Praxis Ginimic
Dead Men Rising
Ushra'Khan
789
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:46:00 -
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I really want to fix my sec and try out some high sec shenanigans but the pirates' life is to poor to spend isk on sec |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
4717
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:02:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Always shoot the MTU. Whether you think they'll take the bait or not. This. They leave killmails, at which point you start talking in local about "ah, loot fairy hates me, X, Y and Z didn't drop". That often gets the missioner a little aggrevated.
You'd be surprised at how quickly it will boost your isk efficiency too, if you are enamored of such things. Damn near everyone has one or two, so it's super easy to kill a whole bunch fairly quickly.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2622
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:03:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:I really want to fix my sec and try out some high sec shenanigans but the pirates' life is to poor to spend isk on sec
Tag to -5 (this is super cheap), then buy one of the more expensive tags (-4.5), then head to Apanake, dodging facpo on the way in.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
100
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:45:00 -
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Bumsicle Wedgie wrote:Here's a few things I've found that work, or at very least increase your chances.
2. Aim for missions with required items, such as Damsel and Worlds. They don't like it when you take them, more so than run of the mill loot.
Good luck to you. My very first crash was a Navy Scorp worth 3b and almost 2b dropped... I haven't looked back since :)
How do you know which mission they are on? should I memorise eve survival (gulp)?
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked."
Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Bumsicle Wedgie
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2014.04.17 09:45:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:
How do you know which mission they are on? should I memorise eve survival (gulp)?
Lol, no. Once you've been doing it for a little while you'll get to know what's what simply by recognising scenery, specific rats and acceleration gate arrangements. Worlds Collide, for example, is easy to recognise with the two widely spaced groups of rats and gates, as is Damsel in Distress which has the two large Pleasure Hubs and Krull.
Some missions also have non-essential but more expensive items that can also help to anger the runner if collected. Arnie Scarett's social implant, for example, in Dread Pirate Scarlett. Let's not forget that many mission runners are fuelled by greed, and this is one more thing you can play on.
It's just about knowing your target's habits, wants and desires and pressing the right buttons. Doesn't always work, but sometimes a little knowledge goes a long way.
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Horus H'kaan
Grand Theft Enyo
0
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:16:00 -
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I seem to remember almost losing a Harpy to a mission pocket not long after warp-in once. It was some environmental hazard in an empty deadspace pocket with a far-off acceleration gate. Damn near put me into structure.
To this day I'm still not sure which mission it was but you bet your bumcheeks I warped outta there quick.
I'd say learning which mission you invade is definitely a huge part of it. Sometimes it's fairly easy to work out, other times not so much.
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1047
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:58:00 -
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Horus H'kaan wrote:I seem to remember almost losing a Harpy to a mission pocket not long after warp-in once. It was some environmental hazard in an empty deadspace pocket with a far-off acceleration gate. Damn near put me into structure.
To this day I'm still not sure which mission it was but you bet your bumcheeks I warped outta there quick.
I'd say learning which mission you invade is definitely a huge part of it. Sometimes it's fairly easy to work out, other times not so much. Recon 3/3, and you can avoid that by pointing an unfiltered directional scanner at the mission to see if they're even making wrecks. In fact, you can learn a lot about a mission before warping into it that way. |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
102
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:40:00 -
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I need more practise it seems. I got a weekend off coming up soon (easter is always so busy yuck) I'll find some carebears to play with.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked."
Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Horus H'kaan
Grand Theft Enyo
0
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Posted - 2014.04.20 09:26:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Recon 3/3, and you can avoid that by pointing an unfiltered directional scanner at the mission to see if they're even making wrecks. In fact, you can learn a lot about a mission before warping into it that way.
A-doy. Why didn't I think of that? Muchos gracias.
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
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