For me my most common behaviours that you might look at as 'honour' are to never **** over a professional peer and to spread the knowledge to anyone who asks.

That's about it.

I once refunded a billion ISK ransom from a Legion pod because after he paid I said "let him go" and a fleet mate heard "light him up" apparently. I suppose more accurately the trigger happy fleet member who wasn't paying attention refunded the 1 bil ransom. The Legion pilot was still out his high-grade slave pod but at least it wasn't the pod + 1 billion.

I also refunded 550 mil from a Tempest Fleet Issue that paid my fleet to live and although we did let him go he wasn't able to warp before the rats finished him. Technically I might have been able to argue that we did let him go and rats killed him or that he should have been aligned so I wasn't at fault. But the payment was for survival and my reputation is worth more than 550 million.

If I'm not prepared to let you go for what you offer to pay I will say so and won't take your money, just your ship and I'm more likely to ransom a pod than a ship because pods can not be looted. Reputation is everything and all I'm worried about is that people know they can believe any promise I offer which comes in very handy when you occasionally fleet up with reds to fight a common enemy. It pays to be able to have each fleet trust the other not to turn on them the second the common enemy is dead, lack of trust weakens the co-operation and jeopardizes the chances the op will succeed. Even if you don't really like the group you are red to and fleeting with then for the duration of the op there is one commandment: Thou shalt swallow thy animosity.

That logic only applies when you think/know people will remember you. Whereas I commonly deal with people who had ransoms not honoured and dont trust them. Also the chances of me meeting the same guy twice are slim, so the incentive to honour a ransom really isnt there. It makes more sense to take the ransom then blow him away and loot the wreck, then to play at e honour. Its not like I lose out by doing so. I will only make an exception to this if theres a genuine need to leave them alive, otherwise what can I hope to gain? some warm fuzzy feelings?

Maybe it was different years ago, but your average player/corps/alliance that call themselves pirates seem to be nothing but gankers looking to pad their killmails with easy no-risk kills at lowsec gate camps. No code, no honour.

Maybe it was different years ago, but your average player/corps/alliance that call themselves pirates seem to be nothing but gankers looking to pad their killmails with easy no-risk kills at lowsec gate camps. No code, no honour.

You do realise that traditional piracy usually consisted of attacking lightly/ unarmed vessels, as in no to low risk, for profit don't you? Eve piracy is fairly consistent with the traditional form of piracy.

This is exactly the kind of behavior to be expected from EVERYONE in EVE. If you expect different then you have not yet figured out the mentality it takes to play this game.

'Traditional' piracy did not consist in camping harbors opening fire on and sinking fishing boats for entertainment and bragging rights. Pirates were in it for the profit indeed, and to run a profitable operation, they had to pick profitable targets, be true to their word, and honour ransoms. No crew would surrender their cargo to pirates that would slaughter them afterwards, no ransom would be paid to pirates were captives not released afterwards.

Gankers, they just shoot whatever comes through the gates, many seem perfectly happy to camp lowsec gateways closest to rookie systems for the steady stream of worthless rookie ships and ventures flying through, others like to camp with 15 which can't leave much money after they divide it, they lose half the cargo blowing up ships, shoot pods without asking a ransom. Kill-padding is what it's about. Shooting things indiscriminately, I don't call piracy is all.

Wrong.
The Vikings were pirates who terrorised Europe, as were the Sea Peoples who terrorised the Eastern Mediterranean, both indiscriminately attacked anything that moved for entertainment as well as profit.

Once again Eve piracy seems to fit in fairly well with the pirates of old.

For me my most common behaviours that you might look at as 'honour' are to never **** over a professional peer and to spread the knowledge to anyone who asks.

That's about it.

You do realise that traditional piracy usually consisted of attacking lightly/ unarmed vessels, as in no to low risk, for profit don't you? Eve piracy is fairly consistent with the traditional form of piracy.

Pirates rarely attacked anything they didn't outgun, and would run if confronted with heavily armed vessels. The romantic hollywood image of pirates is utter horseshit.

Sincere question, can someone direct me to where I can find the pirate code of honor?? I am sure for those of you who been around for a few years may know if there is such as one, thanks

Wrong.
The Vikings were pirates who terrorised Europe, as were the Sea Peoples who terrorised the Eastern Mediterranean, both indiscriminately attacked anything that moved for entertainment as well as profit.

Once again Eve piracy seems to fit in fairly well with the pirates of old.

You had a go at Hollywood's distorted image of things only to give me this mindless bloodthirsty vikings thing ...

I'm a bit of a history buff, and a sentence that begins with "the Vikings were pirates" makes me scream inside too. Pirates of the golden age of piracy were pirates, it was their occupation. The Vikings were a seafaring people, they cultivated land, built houses, raised children, etc they were not 'pirates' in any useful sense. As a people, particularly during the so called Viking age, they also explored foreign lands and engaged in trade and war. They raided towns, sieged cities, fought enemy armies, killed and pillaged and enslaved people and colonized land that wasn't theirs. I could be speaking of just about any warlike people in just the same way though, whether empires like Rome or lose powers like the Gauls, neither of which you would even think of calling pirates. Naturally, being a seafaring people Vikings used boats a lot, to transport goods or military assets. So yeah, Vikings used boats...

As for the 'Sea Peoples who terrorised the Eastern Mediterranean', the only thing that it even evokes to me is very weakly documented history on some mysterious seafaring people at the end of the bronze age. If you do mean those, you know more than historians. If not, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Obviously you're not the history buff you think you are. It is historical fact that the Vikings were considered to be pirates, numerous accounts from the Roman Empire and later appear in the history books.

Interesting, considering the "Roman Empire" collapsed some three centuries before Vikings emerged as a Scandinavian power. Well, no doubt you meant some offshoot of the Roman Empire ...

You do realise that traditional piracy usually consisted of attacking lightly/ unarmed vessels, as in no to low risk, for profit don't you? Eve piracy is fairly consistent with the traditional form of piracy.

Pirates rarely attacked anything they didn't outgun, and would run if confronted with heavily armed vessels. The romantic hollywood image of pirates is utter horseshit.

Generally, the terms are thus (though make sure they are covered during the ransom negotiation):

1. Ransomed ship can leave, with cargo intact through nearest exit gate or to dock up at the nearest station.

2. A pilot and his ship, after paying a ransom fee is general left alone for 15 minutes. This is very general. If he or she comes back to the belt or a mission in a faction fitted Kronos just to 'finish' up the rats - expect a second, substantially higher ransom!

3. Ransoms will be reasonable based on the age of the pilot, the ship he is flying, the fittings on the ship and the cargo carried. The latter two can easily be ascertained by using ship and cargo scanners. You will not simple pick a number and add six billion to it. We, as pirates need to get paid! A high figure will result in non-payment and ship destruction.

4. If a ransom is NOT agreed or the pilot simply ignores our attempts to contact them during the hi-jack/kidnap then you will have no qualms in applying sufficient destructive power to pulverise ship. You will always attempt to capture and ransom the pod once it has been freed from the confines of the ship.