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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.05.16 05:52:00 -
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Today me and my corp were running intel, when we noticed there were 7 ravens in various close by systems with the exact same age to the day, same bloodline, same sex (female civiere) with more or less the same security status! All had the exact same raven setup (i managed to engage one but it warped off and assumably cloaked at a ss)
i convoed two of them, they tried to speak english but it wasent readible. The un thinkable has happened...Macro ratters...
I was thinking about it, and it wouldnt be hard to have a sustainable shield tanked raven with FoF cruise to warp around belts and kill things with macros.....: /
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 Originally by: Wrangler
Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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asher n
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Posted - 2006.05.16 05:56:00 -
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you are jumping to a big conclusion
they may have been farmers, or just a normal player with a bunch of accounts, i know when i rat in 0.0 with my raven its basically a semi-afk activity, i could easily manually control that many accounts without a problem
if they tried to talk, wouldnt that be evidence against a macro?
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.05.16 05:57:00 -
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Eh not really, took them 3-5 minutes per response.
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Originally by: Wrangler
Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Benglada
I was thinking about it, and it wouldnt be hard to have a sustainable shield tanked raven with FoF cruise to warp around belts and kill things with macros.....: /
Nope, it wouldn't be that hard I would imagine, seeing how sophisticated some mining bots are now.
Not too sure what can be done other than reporting them for potential macro use.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Originally by: Benglada
I was thinking about it, and it wouldnt be hard to have a sustainable shield tanked raven with FoF cruise to warp around belts and kill things with macros.....: /
Nope, it wouldn't be that hard I would imagine, seeing how sophisticated some mining bots are now.
Not too sure what can be done other than reporting them for potential macro use.
Short of killing them with interceptors >.<
Still going to be quite hard when the ss and cloak when anyone comes in local though...
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Originally by: Wrangler
Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Huzza Amaa
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:07:00 -
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At least you can kill them without some sort of intervention in 0.0
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Huzza Amaa
At least you can kill them without some sort of intervention in 0.0
Yes. We should all be thankful for that small blessing at least.
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Macmuppet
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:27:00 -
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They are macro's, following same set of rules every single time I come across them
No idea where they are now as they have been evicted from Providence
They seem to have a full rack of stabs, as well as a cloaking device. As soon as anyone warps in, they warp out, safespot then cloak, then about 10-15 mins later they start on the belts again. |
SengH
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Macmuppet
They are macro's, following same set of rules every single time I come across them
No idea where they are now as they have been evicted from Providence
They seem to have a full rack of stabs, as well as a cloaking device. As soon as anyone warps in, they warp out, safespot then cloak, then about 10-15 mins later they start on the belts again.
park a newbie alt in the same system as them :P ... or i think everyone would say in this case a logon trap is justified... or if the macro is programmed to ignore ppl after a certain point in time. Dictor bubble :).
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Encad Briht
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:44:00 -
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Nice idea to use an interdictor Wolfpack
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Lil Belle
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lil Belle on 16/05/2006 06:52:28
Originally by: Macmuppet
They are macro's, following same set of rules every single time I come across them
No idea where they are now as they have been evicted from Providence
They seem to have a full rack of stabs, as well as a cloaking device. As soon as anyone warps in, they warp out, safespot then cloak, then about 10-15 mins later they start on the belts again.
They probably arnt macros, but farmers being employed in a place like china to farm money for their boss or a company to sell for $$$
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.05.16 06:58:00 -
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They are macros. Ratting is so simple that these macros need nearly no human contact. These seven ravens you saw are no doubt the same 7 caracals I saw weeks ago running missions in Lonetrek.
7 civrie chicks, all the exact same age, running lvl II missions. They come one after another out of the station and then warp off to their missions. Why do they come out one after another? Because with mission macros, they do need human contact. They need to talk to the agent, turn in the job and then accept the mission and run the macro to complete the mission.
Macro Miners pushed many miners into mission running because mining was no longer profitable. Now mission running/ratting macros will push the rest... Where?
There IS a problem here.
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.16 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Encad Briht
Nice idea to use an interdictor Wolfpack
There ya go!
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.05.16 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Macmuppet
As soon as anyone warps in, they warp out, safespot then cloak, then about 10-15 mins later they start on the belts again.
Safespot is too advanced tactics to them, try the nearest moon with 200km range and you should be able to decloak them when warping in. As an extra coolness they won't warp away if you catch one at moon.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.05.16 07:47:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 16/05/2006 07:47:39
afk a character in the system all day, and come out and attack with it when the ravens come out, effectively shutting them down 
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Sig removed BEFORE the mods got to it bahaha -mazzilliu
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that should be considered an exploit >[ -mazzilliu
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.05.16 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 16/05/2006 09:05:48
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: Macmuppet
As soon as anyone warps in, they warp out, safespot then cloak, then about 10-15 mins later they start on the belts again.
Safespot is too advanced tactics to them, try the nearest moon with 200km range and you should be able to decloak them when warping in. As an extra coolness they won't warp away if you catch one at moon.
Safespot, isn't advanced behaviour, rember evey location in the eve universe can be stored as bookmarks, and the process a human goes through to generate one is so linear a macro could easily do it, goto point A, warp to point B, count default time it takes to goto warp plus a little, bookmark, return to bookmark, delete it warp to point C bookmark while in warp.
But that said mission running and ratting macro's is a tad ludicrous, way to many variables to keep track of look at the types of missions you get, you get rescue these people's, only blow up a certain guy, don't blow up some ships but blow up others, variations on wether its in deadspace.
Then you have the variables you have to share with ratting, such as sheild, armour, structure, remaining cap what modules are running how much energy they will take how much they will repair how much the remaining mobs are likely to damage you, then keeping track of local and checking its not another of the bots, wether your in range of a target wether you have a lock or not wether they're jamming you, are you in their optimal range, do you need to bug out, are you stuck on a roid, etc etc etc.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.05.16 09:20:00 -
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If you see these guys active just let people know here where they are.
They won't last long.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
But that said mission running and ratting macro's is a tad ludicrous, way to many variables to keep track of look at the types of missions you get, you get rescue these people's, only blow up a certain guy, don't blow up some ships but blow up others, variations on wether its in deadspace.
Then you have the variables you have to share with ratting, such as sheild, armour, structure, remaining cap what modules are running how much energy they will take how much they will repair how much the remaining mobs are likely to damage you, then keeping track of local and checking its not another of the bots, wether your in range of a target wether you have a lock or not wether they're jamming you, are you in their optimal range, do you need to bug out, are you stuck on a roid, etc etc etc.
They only accept the missions that you kill all those frig rats. No ded space, etc. Just go to Lonetrek and wait until you find the system with a thousand cans around the jump gate and thats where they are. Seems thats one of the few missions they accept.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:35:00 -
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You cant put an alt in system because they wont un safespot until everyone leaves the system.
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Originally by: Wrangler
Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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SajuurCor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:38:00 -
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What harm are they causing if they are in a safespot constantly?
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Benglada
You cant put an alt in system because they wont un safespot until everyone leaves the system.
I think the point people are making is that an alt screws with the macros and causes them to hide in SS doing nothing.
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Kira Natel
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:46:00 -
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When you think about it, did anyone really think it would only be limited to mining?
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Natel
When you think about it, did anyone really think it would only be limited to mining?
Nope, but people still need to be aware that is is happenning and will continue to happen until we or CCP does something about it. I think its crap that people can play a game and make money in RL. Its a game and is meant to be played for fun, not to profit from it. Sure you could say, well they are just smart and are taking advantage of a business oportunity. However, at what point do we say enough is enough? The more popular the game is, the more money will be trading hands because... well... everyone wants an upperhand.
I'm doing the same thing I did when fricken 'Titanic' came out. My girlfriend wanted to see it really bad, but I said hell no I'm never seeing that movie. I have never seen that movie (although that damn song DID get stuck in my head). I will never trade timecards or buy isk in any way as I think no games should allow it.
If I ever develop a game of my own, which I plan to do (with help of course) It will be my personal and corporate mission to keep cheaters, macroers, RL money makers out of the game no matter what it means to my corporate profit.
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:01:00 -
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Macros, farmers, neutrals, who cares!
They're in 0.0. Shoot em. 
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EaglesFire
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:07:00 -
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If you see them, just convo or mail me ingame. Me and my corpmates will take care of them.
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Connaght
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:31:00 -
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New to the game, but mmo's. I would join a bot, macro, farmer hunting corp in a heartbeat. If they haven't ruined the economy, they will as the game gets more popular. Wonder why I chose to go with interceptors. Now I know.
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:38:00 -
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They're prolly getting most their cash from level 4 courier missions.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:39:00 -
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Oh god, macroers in 0.0, hello free mods to bored pvpers.
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Alessandra Grey
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:58:00 -
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you guys are missing the obvious solution here. everyone knows that safespots arent that hard to find, so just find their safespots and have any stations or nearby places they could hide camped by a decent sized fleet throughout the system. once you find the safespot, warp in, start shooting, then when they run, theyre gonna get blasted because theres more ships waiting.
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alessandra Grey
you guys are missing the obvious solution here. everyone knows that safespots arent that hard to find, so just find their safespots and have any stations or nearby places they could hide camped by a decent sized fleet throughout the system. once you find the safespot, warp in, start shooting, then when they run, theyre gonna get blasted because theres more ships waiting.
If they're the same ones we've seen.. They warp to SS and cloak. Ie. Safe spot is impossible to find.
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