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Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:39:00 - [1] Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 16/05/2006 12:42:04 Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 16/05/2006 12:40:23 Ok I have no dought NONE of these will get implemented... but im going to post them anyway ..\|.. Change 1 Remove all level 4 agents from Highsec space (0.5 > 1.0) Reasons for the change 1: Ridiulously high amounts of isk should not be made in highsec! Risk Vs reward.. Agent running has 0 risks to anyone that can be assed to take the time to gather a little info on their missions. 2: It should draw people out of the HUB's a bit more and into lowsec / 0.0 space. "But im not ready for lowsec" I here you cry ? If you can run level missions you should have at least half a clue on how to survive in lowsec space. Change 2 RAM drops etc and other tech II components. I think im right in thinking they re-introduced these to agents due to the demand for them didn't they.... Remove them again ! and make them drop from 0.0 NPC's Reasons for change Make more people use 0.0 space... And before people whine and cry that going into 0.0 is a deathtrap what a load of crap... I went for a drunken roadtrip through Syndicate > Outer Ring > Fountain and into delve... and back again Number of times engaged... NONE cept a single bob NPC'er that agreed to a 1on1 (which never came to a conclusion... niether of us having scrams 4tl ) Change 3 Reduce global criminal countdown to 5 minutes. BUT increase the aggression timer to the player you just attacked to 24hours. Reasons for change 1: The timer as it is serves no purpose, It further increases the option of gatecamping as a more isk gaining activity, encourages sniping & doesn't do jack for the person that just got ganked anyway. How many times do they come back to exact revenge Change 4 Give us a monthly count of all ship type numbers in eve, I for one found the last one indicating the number of battleships currently in game fairly interesting and would like to see it done more regularly. Reasons ? urrrr.... Im nosy ? And it gives full justification to calling Caldari players sheep Change 5 Ages ago now you use to be able to hit f10 for the map.... and before the screen comes up you could start typing... when it did appear their would be your text sat in the search box ! Nowdays it sits inside the textbox it was normally in (local/corp etc) This **es me off CCP !! As a regular player of Eve Drunk Online im getting annoyed at the amount of times I tell local where im going !! Same applies with the market... it use to work how i described above ...now it dont !! Makes me mad !! Ok failing all of these being ignored blah blah please fix my Demand of change 5 Thankies Also at some point can you come to the conclusion that perma bans should be scrapped... If I wish to sell my g/f for isk I should be allowed too you mean sods !! Alliaanna ahum this is my main.. it is training Sp... and no I am not admitting that i have ever been warned/banned etc etc.. Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-=** Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:41:00 - [2] So many yellow men.... Seriously, i wouldnt mind if it became a little more difficult to make money in empire, but i have a feeling many players would. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Gun Kata	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:41:00 - [3] Sorry. Far too many emoticons in that post to take it seriously. "Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a f*** how crazy they are."
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Gun Kata Sorry. Far too many emoticons in that post to take it seriously. And you figured the post was serious why ? Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:43:00 - [5] Edited by: ToxicFire on 16/05/2006 12:45:34 You weren't engaged on that route because your a lone player, soon as a number of players begin moving through those points choke points will be camped todeath, people won't follow the agents just simply cus they've moved out to low sec space as well they'll just start running high quality lvl 3's then ya gonna move lvl 3's out of empire and then lvl 2's and 1's heck just drop empire all together. The majority of people won't go into 0.0 because if they get caught they know they will get blown up or blobbed without extensive knowlegde, while the individual player may get away with sneaking around. More than one player a corp a group of mates won't which eve is about not soloing but playing as a team.
Gun Kata	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Gun Kata Sorry. Far too many emoticons in that post to take it seriously. And you figured the post was serious why ? Alliaanna "Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a f*** how crazy they are."
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:44:00 - [7] Originally by: ToxicFire You weren't engaged on that route because your a lone player, soon as a number of players begin moving through those points choke points will be camped todeath, Yeah cos you need to take a whole fleet to NPC dont you.... Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:47:00 - [8] Edited by: ToxicFire on 16/05/2006 12:50:00 Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: ToxicFire You weren't engaged on that route because your a lone player, soon as a number of players begin moving through those points choke points will be camped todeath, Yeah cos you need to take a whole fleet to NPC dont you.... Alliaanna Re-read the post now its edited, emphasis on the fact people play as groups not solo. And the majority of wealth in 0.0 isn't the ratting, its Complexs (a team activity) and mining, which needs to be done as a team to be most effective. As for the routes into 0.0 that are unguarded, think of it like trade routes there all good and fine as long as its perhaps 1 or 2 players running them, but if someone makes them public every tom **** and harry starts running it.
CharlieMurphy	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:48:00 - [9] Edited by: CharlieMurphy on 16/05/2006 12:48:37 Quote: Change 1 Remove all level 4 agents from Highsec space (0.5 > 1.0) Change 6 remove all low sec pirates that would camp the lvl 4 agents and get in the way of mission runners that just want to play the game and be left alone being attacked by lamers ahem! pirates while dealing with a multi bs spawn above one of the jump gates isnt going to be much fun is it ?
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:52:00 - [10] Originally by: CharlieMurphy Edited by: CharlieMurphy on 16/05/2006 12:48:37 Quote: Change 1 Remove all level 4 agents from Highsec space (0.5 > 1.0) Change 6 remove all low sec pirates that would camp the lvl 4 agents and get in the way of mission runners that just want to play the game and be left alone being attacked by lamers ahem! pirates while dealing with a multi bs spawn above one of the jump gates isnt going to be much fun is it ? Ummm a lot of mission runners ALLREADY use the high quality level 4 agents in lowsec and dont come up against too many problems. its just a lot of carebears go with the "thou shall not enter the pk'er zones" which create excessive lag in empire agent runner systems. If your corp was to move to lowsec they are able to give you defence if needed ya know Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Abner Tabner	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:52:00 - [11] 1)No 2)No 3)No 4)No and uhm 5)No
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Abner Tabner 1)No 2)No 3)No 4)No and uhm 5)No Now why couldn't you post with your main to say that exactly ^^ ? Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Ediz Daxx	Posted - 2006.05.16 12:55:00 - [13] I dont want more people in 0.0
CharlieMurphy	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:00:00 - [14] if all lvl 4 agents got moved into low sec i think we both know somebody would stoop that low and harrass mission runners there are systems i will refuse to mission in because i know the risk of being attacked is too high to merit the rewards from the mission Quote: If your corp was to move to lowsec they are able to give you defence if needed ya know My corp is "Imperial Academy" and none of them ever seem to want to help
Marisal	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Ediz Daxx I dont want more people in 0.0 Happening anyway, look at the goons, they've recruited another 600 people into 0.0 in the past few months, even joining in large wars along side ERA
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Ediz Daxx I dont want more people in 0.0 But CCP does Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:02:00 - [17] Add remove local chat and NPC stations to that list :P Fear the Ibis of doom!
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:05:00 - [18] Can go one better, Remove stargates, would solve empire lag.
Ju'Ju	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:06:00 - [19] Edited by: Ju''Ju on 16/05/2006 13:06:55 Originally by: ToxicFireheck just drop empire all together Yes, I am all for this! ___________
Jimmy Tarmac	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:16:00 - [20] made me think of one thig I miss, being able to click dock while in warp to a station. Dunno why that was removed, but I miss it Royal UK Mining Co - Website
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:17:00 - [21] 1. Yes. Hell Yes. Increase low-sec player interaction, make good agents somewhat 'harder' or in a 'scarier' neighborhood. 2. OMG NO. I think 0.0 NPCing is way profitable enough. And boosting the ease with which t2 can be built in 0.0 = bad idea. 3. OMG YES. Would encourage more PVP and remove the massive advantages of sniping. 3.1. WTF. No? :-/ 4. Sure. 5. WTF. YOU LOVE THE BLINKING
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:27:00 - [22] Change 6 See below link... Make POS theft a proffesion !!! Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Tristan	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:30:00 - [23] Edited by: Tristan on 16/05/2006 13:31:07 </crakpipe>
Flyyn	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:34:00 - [24] level four agents should be turned off. Why they have done the most damage to this game. From Tech II component drops...to named loot drops. To the famous "I win button" equiped Ravens. Look at the map. What do you see? Agent *****s...staying in empire...doing level four missions solo...flooding market with loot drops, and earning isk hand over fist. Why are there so many PVEers in a PVP game? Agent missions. I hope CCP sees this trend, and with the new expansion does away with all these agents. On other notes...I hope that we can target micro miners out of their region. IE Caldari in Amarr space. And not get ganked by concord. Here is a new agent style mission idea. Instead of banning these micro miners have a comos agent chose a player at random and tell them to destroy this illeagal act of aggression by the mico miners...that can be fun Dont mind me I am just trying to catch up to DS and HK on the boards....
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Flyyn level four agents should be turned off. Why they have done the most damage to this game. From Tech II component drops...to named loot drops. To the famous "I win button" equiped Ravens. Look at the map. What do you see? Agent *****s...staying in empire...doing level four missions solo...flooding market with loot drops, and earning isk hand over fist. Why are there so many PVEers in a PVP game? Agent missions. I hope CCP sees this trend, and with the new expansion does away with all these agents. On other notes...I hope that we can target micro miners out of their region. IE Caldari in Amarr space. And not get ganked by concord. Here is a new agent style mission idea. Instead of banning these micro miners have a comos agent chose a player at random and tell them to destroy this illeagal act of aggression by the mico miners...that can be fun Hate to tell you, that EVE isn't a pure pvp game, if it was it would simply just fail to work.
CharlieMurphy	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:43:00 - [26] Quote: level four agents should be turned off. Why they have done the most damage to this game. From Tech II component drops...to named loot drops. To the famous "I win button" equiped Ravens. I solo lvl 4s in my domi Quote: Agent ***s...staying in empire...doing level four missions solo...flooding market with loot drops, and earning isk hand over fist. i recycle 90% of the loot i gather and every so often make a battleship and sell it on the market Quote: Why are there so many PVEers in a PVP game? Agent missions. my main lives in 0.0 and spends all his time in PvP no mining and no ratting cause im too busy fighting and where i live the rats are poor and the ore is about the same me running lvl 4 missions in safty can earn me more than 0.0 ratting and it allows me to create some income that allows me to buy new ships/replace my losses and continue the good fight in 0.0 Quote:** On other notes...I hope that we can target micro miners out of their region. IE Caldari in Amarr space. And not get ganked by concord. i dont see how very small miners come into it?
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 13:45:00 - [27] Originally by: ToxicFire Originally by: Flyyn level four agents should be turned off. Why they have done the most damage to this game. From Tech II component drops...to named loot drops. To the famous "I win button" equiped Ravens. Look at the map. What do you see? Agent ***s...staying in empire...doing level four missions solo...flooding market with loot drops, and earning isk hand over fist. Why are there so many PVEers in a PVP game? Agent missions. I hope CCP sees this trend, and with the new expansion does away with all these agents. On other notes...I hope that we can target micro miners out of their region. IE Caldari in Amarr space. And not get ganked by concord. Here is a new agent style mission idea. Instead of banning these micro miners have a comos agent chose a player at random and tell them to destroy this illeagal act of aggression by the mico miners...that can be fun Hate to tell you, that EVE isn't a pure pvp game, if it was it would simply just fail to work. Your wrong, he's right... to a degree. Even a market trader or the lowlyest of production corps are engaging in PvP every time they sell something on the market Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-=** Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !
Lil Thief	Posted - 2006.05.16 14:11:00 - [28] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii ...increase the aggression timer to the player you just attacked to 24hours. Love this idea. eh, not sure about the rest...
Abner Tabner	Posted - 2006.05.16 14:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Change 6 See below link... Make POS theft a proffesion !!! Alliaanna Not only no but hell no. While you're at it let's make ships hackable so we can board them with all those marines we all have stuck away in our hangers, eh? And allow pickpockets and hanger hacking and throw out all secure systems and then all that will be left are people who want to only pvp. all 5k of you. That should make EVE profitable and long lived, eh? Why does everyone want to drive away potential customers for their own selfish agendas? I should think you would want the game to GROW, not shrink. Geez people. Stop and think. More players = more money for CCP = a longer lived EVE. There are plenty of people you can shoot at. Oh, right. They might actually SHOOT BACK.
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.05.16 14:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Abner Tabner Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Change 6 See below link... Make POS theft a proffesion !!! Alliaanna Not only no but hell no. While you're at it let's make ships hackable so we can board them with all those marines we all have stuck away in our hangers, eh? And allow pickpockets and hanger hacking and throw out all secure systems and then all that will be left are people who want to only pvp. all 5k of you. That should make EVE profitable and long lived, eh? Why does everyone want to drive away potential customers for their own selfish agendas? I should think you would want the game to GROW, not shrink. Geez people. Stop and think. More players = more money for CCP = a longer lived EVE. There are plenty of people you can shoot at. Oh, right. They might actually SHOOT BACK. An offline POS doesn't shoot back you numpty !! And yes I want the game to grow, But preferably without users from certain playerbases. Where you from WoW ? Alliaanna Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= Make POS's Hackable.. Support this thread !

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