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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:29:00 -
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Would it please be possible for a dev to respond with which patch they are planning to ship the following features in (i.e. Q2 2006, Q4 2006, Q2 2007), as the vast majority of the community is feeling slightly out of the loop at the moment:
o Contracts
o Combat Boosters
o Combat Organization
o Exploration
o Faction Warfare
o New Environments
o Next-Gen Manufacture and Research
o Optimizations
o Tier 2 Battlecruisers
o Tier 3 Battleships
o Upgraded Graphics
o Wiki
o Windows Vista Support
Secondly, would it be possible to know when you're planning to release more HAC BPOs (as promised by Oveur a couple of months ago when he was data mining)?
Thirdly, will we eventually see the promised return of regular devblogs (again, promised by Oveur) about all the new features, their details explained in depth and their nuances listed in detail? We are still waiting for the devblogs on how the capital ships work properly, along with a full explaination of the gang system, but I guess the moment has passed for that.
And finally, VOIP :). Full details of the subscription model, integration into the EVE client and whether or not you'll be able to host your own servers and not have to pay the monthly fee would also be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
And guys, lets try not to troll this one to death before we get a responce (if we get one).
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Sarmaul
Would it please be possible for a dev to respond with which patch they are planning to ship the following features in (i.e. Q2 2006, Q4 2006, Q2 2007), as the vast majority of the community is feeling slightly out of the loop at the moment:
Slightly? I feel totally ignored when it comes to Kali discussions.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Sarmaul
Would it please be possible for a dev to respond with which patch they are planning to ship the following features in (i.e. Q2 2006, Q4 2006, Q2 2007), as the vast majority of the community is feeling slightly out of the loop at the moment:
Slightly? I feel totally ignored when it comes to Kali discussions.
what did I say about trolling :). I feel as strong as you, but I'm hoping that asking nicely instead of ranting will make them more inclined to respond
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:36:00 -
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Guess i can shut up for a second to support the cause. 
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Dreamdancer
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:41:00 -
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Well a little trolling can be goood as it bumps the thread. Thus keeping it where it may get read.
But would really like some info myself. We are in the later half of the Q2 and yet we know next to nothing. June 30th is approaching fast.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:46:00 -
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Maybe the dev's arent allowed to speak about it even though they would love to ?
I can imagine the marketing people dont want them to spoil a perfectly well thought out marketing plan, if there is one.
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Commander Kahn'Alzaor
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Kahn''Alzaor on 16/05/2006 13:49:49
perhaps its a big surprise
i can see the headlines now. 'CCP delivers a bugfree expansion for their ever growing MMO EVE Online, While hardware overhauls have boosted the singe shards performance three fold Kali is set to entrap the avid players for many more months to come...'
but seriously im in the same boat . i am really keen for more info on kali.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:47:00 -
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If Sarmaul is running for state senate, he will have my vote.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
Maybe the dev's arent allowed to speak about it even though they would love to ?
I can imagine the marketing people dont want them to spoil a perfectly well thought out marketing plan, if there is one.
when the marketing people are calling the shots, you might as well stop developing now
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:50:00 -
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all I need to know is at which stage instas are getting removed cuz this single change will decide about the future of my sub 
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:52:00 -
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It seems they save all the info for E-ON now. I was clueless as to what as coming upin kali, bar what you get on the Drawing Board and such, then dicided to get the last 2 E-ON mags and there was a boat load of information in there, as well as screenies from the new engine.
But a update would be nice, see'ing as E3 is over now and they not all scarmbling for that.
Swethren
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Swethren
It seems they save all the info for E-ON now. I was clueless as to what as coming upin kali, bar what you get on the Drawing Board and such, then dicided to get the last 2 E-ON mags and there was a boat load of information in there, as well as screenies from the new engine.
But a update would be nice, see'ing as E3 is over now and they not all scarmbling for that.
Swethren
I have all 3 issues of EON, and the answers to my questions are not in any of them.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.05.16 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Swethren
It seems they save all the info for E-ON now. I was clueless as to what as coming upin kali, bar what you get on the Drawing Board and such, then dicided to get the last 2 E-ON mags and there was a boat load of information in there, as well as screenies from the new engine.
But a update would be nice, see'ing as E3 is over now and they not all scarmbling for that.
Swethren
I have all 3 issues of EON, and the answers to my questions are not in any of them.
Imagine how I feel without having seen E-ON :D I know even less then you do!
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Cyrus Gideon
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:03:00 -
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/Signed and bumped, I too would love to see a bit more information about the upcomming changes.
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Meiso
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:08:00 -
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Pah, another Kali thread? This will be easy to answer. Quite simply, my friend, Kali will include... um... What I mean to say, is CCP have been VERY clear about this and have said it many times over that... Err... Y'know. The things in space? That fly? Totally in there. All the way! Yeah. Hmmm.
I have no idea. 
I hope they bring back the planets that got stuck to your ship. It was like Eve-tamagotchi, except I didn't feed them with the expressed intention of overloading their bowels.
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skothk
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:08:00 -
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Found this on MMORPG and has some questions answered:
Linkage
WTB a sig! |
Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
I have all 3 issues of EON, and the answers to my questions are not in any of them.
I never said they were in the EON mags, I just said that they seem to be giving more info in the mags now days, info which they used to release to us all via blogs.
I don't mind if the EON mag gets it first and they tell the rest about it later, but they seemed to have stoped the later completely.
Sorry if it was mis-leading.
Swethren
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: skothk
Found this on MMORPG and has some questions answered:
Linkage
I have read it, and it tells us 5 out of the very long list of kali features, and 2 of those are unclear as to what they involve.
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: skothk
Found this on MMORPG and has some questions answered:
Linkage
I have read it, and it tells us 5 out of the very long list of kali features, and 2 of those are unclear as to what they involve.
And the fact that every other MMO and other websites all seem to get this info, but the players have to beg and plead and scour other sites to get the info.
Swethren
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skothk
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:14:00 -
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Like I said, some questioned answered....
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: skothk
Found this on MMORPG and has some questions answered:
Linkage
I have read it, and it tells us 5 out of the very long list of kali features, and 2 of those are unclear as to what they involve.
WTB a sig! |
skothk
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Swethren
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: skothk
Found this on MMORPG and has some questions answered:
Linkage
I have read it, and it tells us 5 out of the very long list of kali features, and 2 of those are unclear as to what they involve.
And the fact that every other MMO and other websites all seem to get this info, but the players have to beg and plead and scour other sites to get the info.
Swethren
The only reason I found this was because I subscribe to mmorpg eve-online alerts (nerd). EVE should at least publish interviews like this on their own website.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:25:00 -
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there's a lot of things ccp should do :).
anyway, still waiting for a hungover/jetlagged dev to reply 
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Just Smith
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:34:00 -
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My precdition for when each comes out
frist tier will be out in like June/July this year
2nd part end of 2006 start of 2007 like when rmr came out
3rd part same time as the frist tier but a year latter
with some new features been list when they do the 3rd part which is pushed back to the year after
o Contracts Mid 2007
o Combat Boosters End of 2006
o Combat Organization mid 2006/end of 2008 starts with the voice comms and comes in dips and draps
o Exploration End of 2006 (from the mmorpg link)
o Faction Warfare Mid 2007/2008
o New Environments end of 2006 as i bet exploration needs it
o Next-Gen Manufacture and Research end of 2006 (from the mmorpg link)
o Optimizations Never :P
o Tier 2 Battlecruisers Mid 2006
o Tier 3 Battleships Bewteen mid and end of 2006 in a small patch on they own
o Upgraded Graphics End 2006
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:38:00 -
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o Constant test server patch note feature to your list.
o Upgrades to the Caldari and Minmatar Cosmos constellations
Having a test server online to test stuff without any hint about what has been changed is a bit, well, not useless as you still can test PvP settings for your ships.
And somehow I am totally missing the storyline updates, now that ccp doubled the #devs 8 months ago, moved into the new HQ, finished the fanfest, had the winter holidays, easter holidays, spring holidays, E3, ...
Combat booster Info:
a) Evegathering in Vegas: Based upon new materials from 3 regions not sitting next to each other. (Source: 'Ask a Dev' podcast)
b) Cosmos (with no further info about the why, where, how, effects, one shot, ... coming from an interview)
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Hal Mondo
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:41:00 -
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/me signs and bumpety bumps. CCP, please dont ignore us.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
there's a lot of things ccp should do :).
anyway, still waiting for a hungover/jetlagged dev to reply
Maybe you have just griefed them with this thread? 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.16 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/05/2006 14:59:01
Who cares about those, Sarm? There are some really *important* things I want to know when we're getting..let's see:
*Better font
*UI upgrade
*Chat window fix
*Warp sound volume fix
*Explination for the entire cynclosure field / you can be shot thing
And so on.
Edit: Yea, and fixing Ani so it dosn't have the blasted 4-damage Angels anymore.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |
Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Who cares about those, Sarm? There are some really *important* things I want to know when we're getting..let's see:
*Better font
*UI upgrade
*Chat window fix
*Warp sound volume fix
*Explination for the entire cynclosure field / you can be shot thing
And so on.
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Vakari Salvatori
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Posted - 2006.05.16 15:08:00 -
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Quote:
An ôExplorerö class and also ôReverse Engineeringö skills which will allow players to actually modify ships. ôIÆd like to have a player improved ship myself.ö Said Magnus with an anticipatory gleam in his eyes. Timeline for release û 2nd stage.
Customizing the stats on ships. I wonder why people haven't mentioned this very often. I would of though a feature like this would of attracted hoardes of attention. Personally, I just can't wait for this addition.
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2006.05.16 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
*Explination for the entire cynclosure field / you can be shot thing
Being destroyable while making a cynocural field is intended. Being not targetable after creating a cynocural field is a bug and should get fixed with the next client patch.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.05.16 15:45:00 -
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A tiny dev reply with , "yes a dev blog can be expected soon" would be very much appreciated
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Elisabeth
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Posted - 2006.05.16 16:06:00 -
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I find the lack of response quite disturbing actually .
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 16:08:00 -
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Lets keep it up beat for now... hopefully we can lure them with happy thoughts...
Swethren
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Rache
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Posted - 2006.05.16 16:35:00 -
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It would be also nice to know where CCP is planning to clean the garbages - like all these 'logs' we get from npc - are these information up to date ?... because I heard these are some old info from the past, that have absolutely no meaning now.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.16 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rache
It would be also nice to know where CCP is planning to clean the garbages - like all these 'logs' we get from npc - are these information up to date ?... because I heard these are some old info from the past, that have absolutely no meaning now.
Hey, I recycle them for the noxcium.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.16 17:32:00 -
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Another one that's been promised for years:
o Reorganisation of the loot tables
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
A tiny dev reply with , "yes a dev blog can be expected soon" would be very much appreciated
I would prefer "a devblog can be expected soon with the answers to all your questions" tbh
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:32:00 -
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no, no mention of soon(tm)
Swethren
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:36:00 -
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I want to know about the new regions.
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.16 18:38:00 -
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if a dev answers this, then there exists a community manager somewhere who is ****ed off
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Der Ewige
Originally by: Maya Rkell
*Explination for the entire cynclosure field / you can be shot thing
Being destroyable while making a cynocural field is intended. Being not targetable after creating a cynocural field is a bug and should get fixed with the next client patch.
Ther are differing dev quotes on this, it is currently possible to target a cybclosure generating ship in a certain way, and Recon's binus is misleading and dangerous and needs to be removed if what you state is correct because it simply invites players to lose recon ships rather than the correct T1 disposable frigates.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |
xeom
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:27:00 -
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Yes CCP we feel like a neglected child =(
CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? |
G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:52:00 -
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Don't forget the things vaguely (drunkenly?) promised at the LV meet:
Insta/WCS changes
Freighters using POS hangars and dropping loot
Sovereignity improvements (sentry guns, POS jump gates, etc)
Corp/alliance improvements
Capital industrial ships
And so on
I'm not trying to be like "YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO THIS" or anything. It would just be nice to know what is actually planned now that specific features and realistic dates seem to be showing up in interviews.
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Johnathan Roark
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Posted - 2006.05.16 19:53:00 -
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im looking forward to constellation sov, corp managment improvements, and teir 3 bs my self.
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schurem
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Posted - 2006.05.16 20:52:00 -
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These guys must be very busy at the mo' Its not like we havent had a dev blog in months, so cool with the 'gimmeh info now NOW NOW ffs
We'll know soon enough, im quite sure
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.16 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: schurem
These guys must be very busy at the mo' Its not like we havent had a dev blog in months, so cool with the 'gimmeh info now NOW NOW ffs
We'll know soon enough, im quite sure
that's what everyone said about RMR too 
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.05.16 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
A tiny dev reply with , "yes a dev blog can be expected soon" would be very much appreciated
I would prefer "a devblog can be expected soon with the answers to all your questions" tbh
I was hoping modesty might work. 
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Tar Ecthelion
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Posted - 2006.05.16 22:36:00 -
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Corp Divisional Accounts, c'mon, we have the ability to give rights to them, but they dont exist. 
And even a Dev blog about Hammer's facination with Boobies is better than nothing.
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Sean Drake
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Posted - 2006.05.16 23:32:00 -
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I think the bit in the interview that annoyed me most was
Magnus did warn that the actual dates of release may be affected by their China Beta release. It seems that their Chinese partner had to obtain special permission from the government to purchase and import the solid state hard-drives required to support EVE Online
Which comes after many devs saying nope eve china will have no effect on the development of Tranquility.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 06:19:00 -
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I guess they will have a hard time installing the Chinese server and the patches on opposite places of the world at the same time. Patching a complex system like EVE without having the people on site that know the system inside out is a really bad ideaÖ.
Installing a cluster with a handmade infrastructure can't be done out-of-the-box like a Linux or Windows installation.
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Megadon
CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.05.17 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
I guess they will have a hard time installing the Chinese server and the patches on opposite places of the world at the same time. Patching a complex system like EVE without having the people on site that know the system inside out is a really bad idea™.
Well, if the People's Republic of China demands that servers be located and operated in the motherland then they shouldn't be surprised if they get subpar services. They made the law, gotta live with it now.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
I guess they will have a hard time installing the Chinese server and the patches on opposite places of the world at the same time. Patching a complex system like EVE without having the people on site that know the system inside out is a really bad ideaÖ.
Installing a cluster with a handmade infrastructure can't be done out-of-the-box like a Linux or Windows installation.
actually, high-ranking members of the dev-team have been shunted over to china for the launch leaving TQ with less experienced devs :/
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 17/05/2006 08:11:46
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Tachy
I guess they will have a hard time installing the Chinese server and the patches on opposite places of the world at the same time. Patching a complex system like EVE without having the people on site that know the system inside out is a really bad ideaÖ.
Installing a cluster with a handmade infrastructure can't be done out-of-the-box like a Linux or Windows installation.
actually, high-ranking members of the dev-team have been shunted over to china for the launch leaving TQ with less experienced devs :/
Wonder what old bugs they will re-invent.... One of my personal favorites is the cap bug where all your cap would suddenly disappear and let you die to the npc's...
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:19:00 -
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Yeah CCP c'mon dont be stinegy. Spill the beans
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Adam C
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Adam C on 17/05/2006 08:24:43
i cant wait till they fix;
- overview doubling* bug
- opicity* and general layout and options of overview
- lag! (mainly ui code)
- team pvp (team based pvp i.e. more then 1v1 the more u have the quicker u die)
- ship/enviroment balancing...
Perks
- docking at stations (external view whilst docked *refer to x3)
to name but a few.
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.05.17 08:49:00 -
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I think we have jsut got to he point where the devs have sold their soul for (rl) isk, there in it for the cash now the voip thing proves it.
They are after the wholy grail that is the chines addict, and that little old eu server that got them going, is nothing more than hinderence now.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.05.17 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
I think we have jsut got to he point where the devs have sold their soul for (rl) isk, there in it for the cash now the voip thing proves it.
They are after the wholy grail that is the chines addict, and that little old eu server that got them going, is nothing more than hinderence now.
Since the chinese don't go to E3 much, i'd say that's somewhat overstating it
I dont anyone actually thinks what you wrote. It's just that we're used to getting info earlier and not being ignored for this long. I mean, I'd not even have bothered asking in an SOE game or something.
But yeah, dissapointing it is. If you set a high standard in informing your players, you risk a high fall when you fail at keeping the standard. That's what we're seeing, nothing more.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.17 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
I think we have jsut got to he point where the devs have sold their soul for (rl) isk, there in it for the cash now the voip thing proves it.
They are after the wholy grail that is the chines addict, and that little old eu server that got them going, is nothing more than hinderence now.
Since the chinese don't go to E3 much, i'd say that's somewhat overstating it
I dont anyone actually thinks what you wrote. It's just that we're used to getting info earlier and not being ignored for this long. I mean, I'd not even have bothered asking in an SOE game or something.
But yeah, dissapointing it is. If you set a high standard in informing your players, you risk a high fall when you fail at keeping the standard. That's what we're seeing, nothing more.
I just wonder how difficult it is to take five minutes and let us know they have read our concerns. I get the feeling that ccp is in chaos right now since they cant even offer that much.
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I just wonder how difficult it is to take five minutes and let us know they have read our concerns. I get the feeling that ccp is in chaos right now since they cant even offer that much.
I think this statement could be correct in some form especially if Hammer didn't knwo about some of it, and he was at E3 pimping it up
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:09:00 -
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come on devs it's only 2 pages long, still time to reply while the thread is still fresh ;)
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Helison
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:19:00 -
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Hmmm, looks like CCP has some sort of NDA for their devs, so they aren¦t allowed to comment on this forum about Kali. |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/05/2006 10:20:38
I'd imagine that all of the senior devs are feeling a bit knackered after E3 and the recent upgrade and taking a day or two off.
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jason hill
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:23:00 -
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shameless bumpage for a decent thread
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
I think we have jsut got to he point where the devs have sold their soul for (rl) isk, there in it for the cash now the voip thing proves it.
They are after the wholy grail that is the chines addict, and that little old eu server that got them going, is nothing more than hinderence now.
Since the chinese don't go to E3 much, i'd say that's somewhat overstating it
I dont anyone actually thinks what you wrote. It's just that we're used to getting info earlier and not being ignored for this long. I mean, I'd not even have bothered asking in an SOE game or something.
But yeah, dissapointing it is. If you set a high standard in informing your players, you risk a high fall when you fail at keeping the standard. That's what we're seeing, nothing more.
yes but you have to admit the direction in which things have been moving latley its all about the cash, First we had ovour saying they where going to move hq to save on tax's fair enuth.
Then it was if you want to find out about up gome changes you have to buy E-on or wait 4 weeks.
Now its well lets sell Voip as ad on even thou no one wants asked or in most case needs it.
When asked about whey they dont post so much any more, they give the exuse they only post if they can feel that their controubtion will contribute to a thred in apostive way.
At least that was the response to the minmar carrier thred that was 3 pages of the "bouns is crap can some one look at it" and 10 pages of please dev give us an answer.
Ps the answer was poste din the end, in another thred.
Mabye devs jsut dont want to give sutff away any more so you have to buy eon to know whats going on?
And yes i am dispointed to go from outstanding comunications lvl's to nothing, in such a short time.
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Posted - 2006.05.17 12:57:00 -
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well i guess with the expansion of the game and lacking new s taff they are a bit overwealmed atm.
Tho u will find them acitve in FD on the SISI server want inside info go there
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Posted - 2006.05.17 13:32:00 -
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It a shame that they appear to have sold there soul for RL isk. Lets hope they find the rightous path back home to the tradional ways.
2nd Quarter 2006 finishes in 1.5 months so not long now!
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Posted - 2006.05.17 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Helison
Hmmm, looks like CCP has some sort of NDA for their devs, so they aren¦t allowed to comment on this forum about Kali.
So you're saying that they have a non-disclosure agreement that prohibits them from giving information directly to the player base, but they're free to give it out to every gaming magazine/website interviewer that strolls up? Not a snowball's chance in hell. The major problem is what i've just outlined. Sure, theres a lot of articles with dev interviews that has a lot of great and useful information on kali in them, but the question begs as to why the devs spend so much time telling these interviewers all about it and cant write us a simple dev blog to shut us up? I know they're busy, so im not ragging on them, but it does seem like we're being ignored in a sense, like promotion and acquisition of new players is becoming more of the primary agenda than retention of the old ones.
P.S. -Dont mind me, it's 6:30 in the morning and i've not had my coffee yet. No offense intended to anyone.
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Posted - 2006.05.17 15:29:00 -
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I endorse this prod... post
I'd like to have more info as well, lately it all became a haze to me  .
If it's going to continue for me like it has been for some time(not just cause pvp has become boring or so though, but it's part of it) I don't see myself lasting to the end of the year.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.05.17 17:37:00 -
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Now that the server is rebooting, I thought it to be an oppurtune time to bring this thread to the top again :D
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Cudaya Ebsldes
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Posted - 2006.05.17 17:59:00 -
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Sometimes I wonder if part of the "role play" in the game is just to have things happen (as they do in real life(I never got a book with a timetable when I was born)) and then use your wits and abilities to find a way thru the "stuff"?
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Posted - 2006.05.18 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 18/05/2006 08:30:52
I'm seriously annoyed now Kieron.
Two days left in this week now and no sign 
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Helmut 314 on 18/05/2006 09:15:30
More and more I get convinced that our worst fears are coming true, the Q2 patch will be a bugfix for RMR/Blood with 8 new ships thrown in to calm us down and not KALI-related at all.
The eve community is unique many say because the devs speak to us. Sure, in my 28 months of playing eve theres been a lot of communication from the devs. Sadly, a great part of the communication has been fluff. When the "In development" pages appeared it seemed like we would get more accurate information, thats seems to have been turned into just another version of soonÖ as well.
I love Eve and I want it to keep developing. A lot of what RMR and EXODUS before that gave us is still only partially finished and need a lot of work. No matter what you call the patch thats coming there will be a lot of disappointment and anger about whats not there. You promise a lot and deliver just parts of it, thats the track record that CCP has. Prove us wrong, or at least tell us what we have coming so we can adjust our expectations downward once again...
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Helmut 314
Edited by: Helmut 314 on 18/05/2006 09:15:30
More and more I get convinced that our worst fears are coming true, the Q2 patch will be a bugfix for RMR/Blood with 8 new ships thrown in to calm us down and not KALI-related at all.
According to stratics this is exacly what it will be like. And voip support.
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:25:00 -
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What I don't get is the lack of replies to this request.
It's like alot of people don't care that CCP are dropping the ball here ?
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:54:00 -
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MMOrpg.com announced it's E3 awards today.
Eve Online won none of the categories, but got mentioned as contestant that fell just a bit short on three counts:
- best booth (it's teh bar that did it)
- best graphics (it's amazing how a couple new textures can play havo con the minds of the simple. Luckily MMOrpg did recognise the fact that for the immediate future that's all it is: a couple graphic improvements).
- best expansion.
And here is what MMOrpg.com said about that last one:
Quote:
When we heard about Kali at GDC, it was stunning. The expansion sounded like it was going to keep EVE soaring for years to come. It still does, but CCP is playing it safe and releasing the planned features over three expansions. Had they kept it in one, they'd probably have won.
Such a pity. Not about the award cause I couldn't care less. And not about the splitting 'cause I can understand that. But a pity about the fact that again CCP tells everyone but their players what the plans for their game are.
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:55:00 -
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Seen this?
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Seen this?
/searches for mention of splitting the patch, and of voIP
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Seen this?
Rofl, you haven't been keeping up have you ?
Just about nothing of that list will actually be released in the initial Kali patch.
Worse still, it looks like tehre actually won't be a kali patch in this quarter, but in teh next, and it will hold the new textures, some new ships, and nothing much of anything else.
Factional warfare ? One year from now
Reverse engineering ? Half a year min.
Boosters ? Cosmos ? Sovereignty improvements ? Half a year.
Contract system ? Seem canceled or posphoned as it hasn't been mentioned at all.
If that Kali page weere still up to date I wouldn;t be asking CCP to clarify some things now would I ?
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Edward Sarum
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:38:00 -
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As someone that has worked on the development end of a few games I can tell you to NOT expect any kind of time line or date on specific features. Let me explain why that is;
Company A tells it's users that in 2nd quarter they will release a new feature. The first day of the seocnd quarter rolls around and threads begin asking why the update is late. By the end of the first week of the seond quarter the hate email begins and people start complaining about the quality of the game and the devotion of the company. After a few more weeks of this crap one of the devs comes on the states that the second quarter is far from over and development continues. This appeases the majority for about 2 weeks then the cycle starts all over again. Near the end of the second quarter an unforseen problem occurs and development must be push back about 2 weeks. Instantly the screams begin on the forums of how the players where lied to and Company A is scrap.
Now this is sadly an example that is seen by ever major game maker these days. In the end it can be hard to love working on a game when you are constantly attacked for not adding a feature to allow one player to be invulnerable or for not giving up your life to make sure some new feature is added when the players want it, not when it is ready.
CCP we do not need a time frame or comments to this thread. You have shown over the years your dedication to this game so we have no doubt you will delvier and when you do is fine, no pressure.
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Edward Sarum
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Players are asking for updated information about Kali. They get nothing. Instead they see lots of other sites with info about Kali. They ask if they can trust this info. Nothing. So the forums fills up with people not knowing what to think. Its rumour heaven, and not in a positive way. People worry about things that might happen with the game and ask devs to reply. Nothing.
I dont this is unfair critisism.
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