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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 08:57:00 -
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Hello my fellow eve players!
im new to this game and so far i love it!
so my question to u seasoned veterans is
what is the name of this ship
http://www.eve-online.com/screenshots/collection.asp?col=24112004&n=10#sh
and how long will it take for me to get it??
have a great day all of you!
//Assmodean
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Vir Hellnamin
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Assmodean
what is the name of this ship
http://www.eve-online.com/screenshots/collection.asp?col=24112004&n=10#sh
and how long will it take for me to get it??
Hiya,
the ship in question is Brutix, a Gallentean Battlecruiser.
I can't really say how long it will take to learn them, because I trained pass them to battleship, before they were first introduced. They are little bit more advanced than cruisers, but use same modules than those.
Maybe some BCr pilot could comment on this one better?
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loony zoon
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:05:00 -
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Brutix. Gallente battlecruiser.
Shouldn't take a huge amount of time to get into one.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:08:00 -
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Thx Mates, is it faster to just make an gallente char
to train this or should i stick with my amarr?
i know u dont have to answer theese noobish questions but i would save me alot of time, thx in advance!
fare well!
//Ass :)
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loony zoon
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:15:00 -
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You can train for any race ships. Just buy gallente frig and cruiser skill and train hybrid turrets. All other relevant skills are needed for both amarr or gallente BC (the battle cruiser skill is generic - i.e. not race specific).
p.s. as a long standing flyer of gallente ships, I really don't like the brutix, but that is a huge post on it's own.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: loony zoon
You can train for any race ships. Just buy gallente frig and cruiser skill and train hybrid turrets. All other relevant skills are needed for both amarr or gallente BC (the battle cruiser skill is generic - i.e. not race specific).
p.s. as a long standing flyer of gallente ships, I really don't like the brutix, but that is a huge post on it's own.
it must be the most awsome looking ship out there!?
and above all the ship must be good looking or u get ****ed
flying it, ashamed realy.. 
so all i need to train is all the frigate skills from gallente and then its home free to start training cruiser
skills?
would you care to tell me why u didn't like it? (long story, but i would very much appriciate it.)
take care
//Assmodean
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Cesisse
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:05:00 -
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I am disappointed in its drone bay and lack of drone bonuses. The Vexor cruiser does much better with drones, costs 20 percent the price ofa brutix, and is only 1 million isk to insure versus 8 million for the Brutix. (Read: loss ofa brutix is 8 million isk lost vs 1 million for vexor.)
However, cruisers do not handle many level 3 missions very well. I think the Dominix is still the better choise though, since I am trained in drones more than guns.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cesisse
I am disappointed in its drone bay and lack of drone bonuses. The Vexor cruiser does much better with drones, costs 20 percent the price ofa brutix, and is only 1 million isk to insure versus 8 million for the Brutix. (Read: loss ofa brutix is 8 million isk lost vs 1 million for vexor.)
However, cruisers do not handle many level 3 missions very well. I think the Dominix is still the better choise though, since I am trained in drones more than guns.
well, im not much into drones, think i wanna have lasers or guns, not missiles either...
u got any tip if not this one, (tho it is the coolest looking i have found yet and the ship that got me to test this game.. love it in the trailer.. :P)
is there anything realy bad on it? i want a cruiser thats
a little of all trades, but mainly good looking..
thx mates!
//Ass ^^
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:20:00 -
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My suggestion would be to get EveMon, import the skills list XML from my character from the left bar and then select the ship from within EveMon. That will give you an idea of how long it will take to train for.
However, remember that other things may need to be taken into consideration like weapons. The Brutix has boni for Med Hybrid weapons and armour reppers. Since the Hybrids get the bonus, it's a good idea to train for them so you can use them. If you normally shield tank, the skills for armour tanking need to be trained as well.
Getting the skills to fly the ship is good but without the supporting skills, it's probably going to be worse than the ship you are flying now.
Making a new char depends on what you have already trained. If you have already trained some of the learning skills and maybe some of the support skills like electronics, engineering and such, you may be better off using the char you have now. If your current char is a real noob with almost no skills, you're not losing much by starting a new one.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Assmodean on 18/05/2006 10:41:56
Originally by: Drizit
Edited by: Drizit on 18/05/2006 10:30:39
My suggestion would be to get EveMon, import the skills list XML from my character from the left bar and then select the ship from within EveMon. That will give you an idea of how long it will take to train for.
However, remember that other things may need to be taken into consideration like weapons. The Brutix has boni for Med Hybrid weapons and armour reppers. Since the Hybrids get the bonus, it's a good idea to train for them so you can use them. If you normally shield tank, the skills for armour tanking need to be trained as well.
Getting the skills to fly the ship is good but without the supporting skills, it's probably going to be worse than the ship you are flying now.
Making a new char depends on what you have already trained. If you have already trained some of the learning skills and maybe some of the support skills like electronics, engineering and such, you may be better off using the char you have now. If your current char is a real noob with almost no skills, you're not losing much by starting a new one.
If you want a good loking ship that uses lasers, go for the Amarr Prophecy also a pic here. They look mean, hit hard and are a pretty tough nut to break. Especially with the 5% armour resist bonus for every level of Battlecruiser with a couple of well placed active armour hardeners, they can almost match a HAC for armour damage resistance at about 1/6 of the price of a HAC.
edit: %^úú& Censored harmless words c r a c k is not a bad word!
i had some problems with that program u suggested, so do u have like an realy rough estimation on how long it could take to get the nessesary skills for the brute? and same for the Prophecy, i realy dont need a big ass battleship like that
but the graphix och the brutix are the greatest!
u dont happen to know what the name of the amarrian ships that patroll high sec stargates are named? and if i can buy one of those, (they look awsome also). I mean the little fast yellow ones with alot of engines. that circle the gates around the noobspacestation chavel chaval something...
anyways as a last question, is it possible to make the brutix to bee a good allround ship or is it realy not a good ship?.. 
thx in advance!
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Schinoble
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Schinoble on 18/05/2006 11:16:20
the brutix is a very good ship
Its an armour tanking ship, more low slots than med slots and has higher base armour than shield.
The bonus for the armour repping also make this ship very good, especially at higher levels.
Its a gun boat, to get an idea of how it would work i would personaly start with the incursus (frigate), thorax (cruiser) than the brutix.
The brutix is fully viable to do level 3 missions, i did all my level three missions in a brutix, i personaly think a domi is overkill for level 3 missions, but with a brutix its actually challanging completing the missions.
The only thing i found annoying in the brutix was its slow, almost as slow as a BS, but than again the firepower and tanking ability made up for the speed, or should i say lack of speed.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Schinoble
the brutix is a very good ship
Its an armour tanking ship, more low slots than med slots and has higher base armour than shield.
The bonus for the armour repping also make this ship very good, especially at higher levels.
Its a gun boat, to get an idea of how it would work i would personaly start with the incursus (frigate), thorax (cruiser) than the brutix.
The brutix is fully viable to do level 3 missions, i did all my level three missions in a brutix, i personaly think a domi is overkill for level 3 missions, but with a brutix its actually challanging completing the missions.
thx! im gonna quest like hell when i get home to make some money etc.. right now i have an amarr executioner (spelling?). havent even tried to fly it yet, bought it
right before i went to work today... Im looking forward to it! :)
Btw, im gonna get that ship some day! ^^ shouldnt take more than 20 days!
THX all!
//Assmodean
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Varis
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:32:00 -
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It'll take more than 20 days to get the skills needed to fly a brutix safely anyway.
Although if your willing to skimp on equipment, you might get away with it under that time, just expect to loose the ship fairly quickly in that case.
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Gerbil Intaki
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:00:00 -
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it takes 8 days just to beable to fly the ship.
Longer if you want it not to get blown up the first time you get in to low sec.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gerbil Intaki
it takes 8 days just to beable to fly the ship.
Longer if you want it not to get blown up the first time you get in to low sec.
so, any tips on appropiate eq on the vessel?
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:09:00 -
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Remember that its more important to have the skills to fly this ship and survive in it than to have the ship itself. In the meantime I suggest learning to enjoy the smaller ships till you're skilled well up for larger.
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nyabinghi
Remember that its more important to have the skills to fly this ship and survive in it than to have the ship itself. In the meantime I suggest learning to enjoy the smaller ships till you're skilled well up for larger.
hmm, sounds wise..
u dont happen to know the name of the little yellow ship that patrol the stargates in newbieland, not the amarr commander, but the smaller faster version with alot of engines (also npc) (looks almost like an executioner but bigger and coolerlooking)
ty in advance!
and is it possible to aquire a ship like that?
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Haeloic
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:51:00 -
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I've spent alot of time with the Brutix and I think it's an excellent ship. It really is very skill dependent as others have mentioned...but a very capable ship once you "learn into" it. When you do get into it I suggest doing some research into setups for it...as well as trying it out on level 2 missions to find your balance before you try anything challenging with it.
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Haeloic
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:56:00 -
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I believe the Amarrian ship you're referring to would be the Arbitrator.
Tier 1 crusier, should be easy to get into and good to have some drones skills if you want to use it more effectively.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.05.18 19:09:00 -
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Yes, your Amarr skillbase will support your Brutix significantly.
Your general gunnery skills, as well as other tanking and cap related skills are all important. Many Amarr specialists delay training drones of course, which are integral to any Brutix design philosophy.
Your other main concern will be the hybrid turrets skill.
You only need Gallente Cruiser III. No further points in this benefit your Brutix or any other BattleCruiser for that matter.
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Karille
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Posted - 2006.05.18 21:30:00 -
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I LOVE the brutix! it is quite powerful and easily beats all tech 1 cruisers out there. really i think about 3 weeks is all it'll take for you to get into one and be comfy. i've used it for about 85% of my killing and i'm even proud that it looks like a whale. get it. love it.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.18 23:08:00 -
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Learning the skills to fly a prophecy can take as little as 3 or 4 weeks. Having the backup skills to fly it competently takes a bit longer. For any Battlecruiser, you are really looking at close to 3 months before you have enough skills to keep you from losing it to easily, even to NPC rats. Remember that most of the supporting skills you are going to need are rank 3 and 4 which means 3 and 4 times longer to train respectively. I'm talking about the ones to help speed up cap recharge, increase cap amount, armour bonus skills and repair skills. On top of that, you have skills for bonus percentages on armour energisers and such. They all add up to extra protection from enemy fire and are useful in any ship so it's wise to train them up first anyway.
as Nyabinghi said, it's probably more important to have the skills to survive in the ship before you even consider training the skills to fly it. So spend your time getting the main skills you are going to need most for any ship you will fly in this game before you think about training for a ship that is going to cost millions of isk.
No point in having a cool ship if you haven't trained for the right weapons and mods to put on it. No point paying millions for a ship if a NPC pwns you on the very first day out 
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Karille
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Posted - 2006.05.18 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Karille on 18/05/2006 23:19:28
what is it with people saying you need every skill in the game to fly a ship? you seriously dont need that much to npc in a battlecruiser. i know i've done it. and 3 months? we're not talking about stepping into a pwnmobile no questions asked. this character isnt even 3 months old and i fly one everywhere having never been killed by an npc. my advice to anyone, just learn skills, feel it out, and move as fast as you like. also, get a brutix!
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.05.19 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Karille
Edited by: Karille on 18/05/2006 23:19:28
what is it with people saying you need every skill in the game to fly a ship? you seriously dont need that much to npc in a battlecruiser. i know i've done it. and 3 months? we're not talking about stepping into a pwnmobile no questions asked. this character isnt even 3 months old and i fly one everywhere having never been killed by an npc. my advice to anyone, just learn skills, feel it out, and move as fast as you like. also, get a brutix!
Thx for all the usefull answers! "Pwnmobile no questions asked" loved that fraze.. 
however i must say this persons attitude is more my style :)
im gonna get my ship and then do crapquests etc. till i feel rdy for some more serious stuff, i just want a cool ship to fly at first! Love u all! great forum!
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:10:00 -
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Now i have finally aquired my new brutix!! 
damn its slow, but the looks make up for it!! 
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Electric Cucumber
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Assmodean
Now i have finally aquired my new brutix!!
damn its slow, but the looks make up for it!!
Makes a change from the excutionner doesn't it
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Assmodean
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Electric Cucumber
Originally by: Assmodean
Now i have finally aquired my new brutix!!
damn its slow, but the looks make up for it!!
Makes a change from the excutionner doesn't it
a nice feeling running around doing lvl 1 missions in a battle cruiser.. :P just gonna get my other skills up to pair, then im gonna start pvping also..
im gonna have so much fun in this game!
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2006.06.01 14:46:00 -
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try and find some L2 missions out there and make you more cash - do one thing for me, and stay out of lowsec for the time being
if you aren't careful, you'll lose it to  like me, and we wouldn't want that would we?
1st Lieutenant Sakura Nihil
CEO, Tharsis Security
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bonombonom
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Posted - 2006.06.01 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Assmodean
a nice feeling running around doing lvl 1 missions in a battle cruiser.. :P just gonna get my other skills up to pair, then im gonna start pvping also..
do not PvP in that battlecruiser or i may have to pop you myself  . but really, if you want to pvp get a frigate or something you can easily replace and go to some 0.4's or lower, it's basically pirating but it's better than waiting for a pirate to attack you  and joining a player corp (if you havnt already) definately helps, and you can learn much more. enjoy EVE!
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Elseenas
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Assmodean
a nice feeling running around doing lvl 1 missions in a battle cruiser.. :P
That's okay, I knew a guy doing Level 1 missions in a Dominix 
If you want to continue to persue this route, then train Connections III, start up with level II agents, and get to level III as quickly as you can manage--you'll make enough on level III that the loss of a BC won't kill your bank account.
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just gonna get my other skills up to pair, then im gonna start pvping also..
I make it a rule of thumb to never fly a ship I can't afford to lose (as in, I can make enough money to offset the costs). If you PvP, expect to lose ships, so make sure you can afford to replace your nice brutix before repeatedly risking it.
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