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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:01:00 -
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Many times I've logged on my orca, put it in POS shield, joined the mining fleet, turned on the mining links, and left for work.
I don't think you should be able to effect the game like this if you are not actually sitting at your keyboard.
So, my idea: EMP bust mobile structure. Every 10 minutes, + or - 5 minutes (so 5-15 minutes) an EMP burst fires in a system and deactivates all high power modules.
If you are actually at your keyboard, no problem.... just reactivate the module. If you're not...well, then you are not really playing the game, are you?
High/low sec, all systems would perma-have this module present.
Null sec, could anchor and on-line the structure that sends out the EMP burst. Make it a day, or maybe a week, to online so that it can't be activated just because a fight started.
Automatically deactivate it in any system experiencing time dilation, so as to not make TiDi even worse with extra module de-activations and re-activations.
If you don't like that someone put up the EMP burst structure, go blow it up.
Death to AFK miners, boosters, and others that think they can alter the game simply by being logged in, even if away from their keyboard.
(Yes, this really, really is about cloaky camping, but dealing with it in a way that requires time and effort (and perhaps actual fights to kill/protect the EMP Burst module, and it actually costs the players hiding behind it a little something-something too.)
Honestly, I wonder by how much the "active players" count would drop if CCP actually implimented it. All the cloaky campers would be offline, but all the null people that curretly just log out when there is a cloaky camper in system would be online. |

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
426
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:06:00 -
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Nolen Cadmar
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:38:00 -
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I'm ok with afk, off-grid orca boosting. I do think that combat boosters should have to be on-grid. Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379 |

Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:46:00 -
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Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread.
OP the thing you want removed is off grid boosting. -á --á |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
894
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Posted - 2014.04.26 15:53:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread.
OP the thing you want removed is off grid boosting.
No. I want to be able to off-grid boost, as long as I'm at the keyboard to reactivate the boosts every so often.
It really is only AFK that I want to nef.
And it is not really "stealth" when I put right at the end of the OP what it is really about. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5321
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Posted - 2014.04.26 17:51:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread.
OP the thing you want removed is off grid boosting. Oh... the implications of this idea go well beyond mere cloaking... the way it is worded one can literally "deactivate" entire fleets in a system and then cyno in their own to crush it. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
899
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:02:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread.
OP the thing you want removed is off grid boosting. Oh... the implications of this idea go well beyond mere cloaking... the way it is worded one can literally "deactivate" entire fleets in a system and then cyno in their own to crush it.
You already can cyno in a whole fleet...
As for deactivating a whole fleet, with a click or key press, they are right back on. The high modules that were deactivated finish their current cycle and can immediately be reactivated by the player (if the player is actually at the keyboard).
Please explain these "greater" implications. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
573
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:19:00 -
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Quote:Many times I've logged on my orca, put it in POS shield, joined the mining fleet, turned on the mining links, and left for work.
This proves only that you are idiotic. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
573
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:22:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread.
OP the thing you want removed is off grid boosting. No. I want to be able to off-grid boost, as long as I'm at the keyboard to reactivate the boosts every so often. It really is only AFK that I want to nef. And it is not really "stealth" when I put right at the end of the OP what it is really about. those pesky AFK.. we should also see that they are jettisoned out of stations and POS's every few minutes too.. and warped to the nearest combat ship..... sic.
Being AFK is not against the EULA... using botting software is.
I disagree with your idea -1 -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:23:00 -
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hmmm... first thing I can think about is nop.
Then I would like to elaborate by quoting Darth vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".
Imagine you do L4 in your pimped officer fit marauder then in bonus room of angels extravaganza your emp building shut off all your modules. 2 seconds later.... **** happens. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
899
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:24:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Quote:Many times I've logged on my orca, put it in POS shield, joined the mining fleet, turned on the mining links, and left for work.
This proves only that you are idiotic.
How you figure? Private password for POS. Orbiting with prop mod running, just in case someone makes it in and tries to bump out of shield.
Why is this idiotic? |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
899
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:25:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:hmmm... first thing I can think about is nop.
Then I would like to elaborate by quoting Darth vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".
Imagine you do L4 in your pimped officer fit marauder then in bonus room of angels extravaganza your emp building shut off all your modules. 2 seconds later.... **** happens.
HIGH power slot mods only. Not hardeners. They complete current cycle, and you can immediately reactivate.
What's the issue from having to turn back on the guns? |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
302
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:28:00 -
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anything which interfere with modules activation is sh-it-storm in the making. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
899
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:30:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:anything which interfere with modules activation is sh-it-storm in the making.
Because of AFK?
If so, that is kind-a the point! |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
302
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:03:00 -
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then I'm against afk in stations. if you are afk for 20 minutes your client kicks you out...
mmmkay? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
902
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:41:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:then I'm against afk in stations. if you are afk for 20 minutes your client kicks you out...
mmmkay?
sure.
I have to do something every 20 minutes, to ensure I'm actually at the keyboard. A market order search. A ship refit. A corp chat.... Something, anything that shows I'm actually at the keyboard.
I have NO problem with that AT ALL. |

Dave Stark
5090
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:27:00 -
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sorry, i don't quite understand why you want to make the game more tedious and less interesting... |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
743
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:28:00 -
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Posting in a stealth "kill effectiveness of all covert ships" thread.
Why not simply make it so you give command modules a 15-minute cycle time and make it so they can't be auto-reactivating? |

Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
172
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:31:00 -
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this module should not disable cloaks - if someone has the patience to sit at their keyboard - pretending to be AFK, so the carebears eventually get bold enough and he gets a kill - props to him - as soon as this module goes off, and the 'afk cloaker' reactivates his cloak - he's just shown himself to not be AFK, and thus loses all his strategic and tactical value
the problem is not AFK cloaking - it's the power projection. For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it WILL be. |

Kyrik Vaster
Professional Interstellar Support Initiative
6
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Posted - 2014.04.27 04:36:00 -
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you pay for your account 23.5 hours a day, why shouldn't you be able to boost 23.5 hours a day?
what is this fixation with being at the keyboard?
why must you be sitting at the keyboard, eyes on the screen only, fingers on the keys, hand on the mouse?
100% wife/kid agro assured if forced to follow a rule like that.
nothing assures a rage quit better then "her" rage, and "your" quit |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5431
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Posted - 2014.04.27 04:45:00 -
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Check his recent post history in GD.
OP is butthurt about afk cloakers. Apparently he is quitting the game because of them.  "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
513
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:04:00 -
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does it sount as AFK if I sleep with my wireless keyboard in my arms? |
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