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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1458
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:21:00 -
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Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote:So you're unhappy about something so you have to want to ruin it for other people? this is what all people do in such cases.
why hate? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1329
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:26:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:I've noticed this ability is abused on a regular basis by a staggeringly huge number of players.
Some of the vilest, sexually deviant, racist messages lurk in ship hangars everywhere.
Furthermore, I am required to look at them everytime I 'Show Info' on a ship or hit the D-Scan button.
This applies to POS modules as well - and its vitally important CCP act on this before POSes spread to nearly EVERY system in EVE.
I get tired D-scanning systems and finding POS mods named 'Dead N***** Storage' for instance. (Yes, Pulp Fiction reference, but highly inappropriate in any game for 12 year-olds.)
While I suppose it could be dealt with via the petition system, I don't think CCP will take action because they are uninterested in removing racists and/or sexual deviants from the EVE Community. They pay subscriptions after all, and aren't doing something dangerous and subversive like doubling your ISK and encouraging a singalong on Teamspeak.
No. The cleanest and fairest method is to completely remove the ability to rename structures and ships in the first place. I hope to see this in the next large expansion.
Eve is not a game for 12 year olds...
If it offends you speak to a GM via the petition system, I like being able to name my ships, and whilst I do not and will never tolerate racism if you go down this route successive changes will result in hello kitty in space as sooner or later everyone will have complained about everything forcing game design changes resulting in a sanitised mmo lacking character and flavour. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Myxx
722
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:26:00 -
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Wow, the OP got a lot of people to take them seriously. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
840
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:55:00 -
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BAN FREE SPEECH! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
840
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:56:00 -
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Myxx wrote:Wow, the OP got a lot of people to take them seriously. You're not here often, are you?
No offense intended. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Thead Enco
47th Ronin
160
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:03:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:I've noticed this ability is abused on a regular basis by a staggeringly huge number of players.
Some of the vilest, sexually deviant, racist messages lurk in ship hangars everywhere.
Furthermore, I am required to look at them everytime I 'Show Info' on a ship or hit the D-Scan button.
This applies to POS modules as well - and its vitally important CCP act on this before POSes spread to nearly EVERY system in EVE.
I get tired D-scanning systems and finding POS mods named 'Dead N***** Storage' for instance. (Yes, Pulp Fiction reference, but highly inappropriate in any game for 12 year-olds.)
While I suppose it could be dealt with via the petition system, I don't think CCP will take action because they are uninterested in removing racists and/or sexual deviants from the EVE Community. They pay subscriptions after all, and aren't doing something dangerous and subversive like doubling your ISK and encouraging a singalong on Teamspeak.
No. The cleanest and fairest method is to completely remove the ability to rename structures and ships in the first place. I hope to see this in the next large expansion.
HTFU and get vaperized PC haz no business here!
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |

Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
120
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:18:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:I've noticed this ability is abused on a regular basis by a staggeringly huge number of players.
Some of the vilest, sexually deviant, racist messages lurk in ship hangars everywhere.
Furthermore, I am required to look at them everytime I 'Show Info' on a ship or hit the D-Scan button.
This applies to POS modules as well - and its vitally important CCP act on this before POSes spread to nearly EVERY system in EVE.
I get tired D-scanning systems and finding POS mods named 'Dead N***** Storage' for instance. (Yes, Pulp Fiction reference, but highly inappropriate in any game for 12 year-olds.)
While I suppose it could be dealt with via the petition system, I don't think CCP will take action because they are uninterested in removing racists and/or sexual deviants from the EVE Community. They pay subscriptions after all, and aren't doing something dangerous and subversive like doubling your ISK and encouraging a singalong on Teamspeak.
No. The cleanest and fairest method is to completely remove the ability to rename structures and ships in the first place. I hope to see this in the next large expansion.
Eve is not a game for 12 year olds... If it offends you speak to a GM via the petition system, I like being able to name my ships, and whilst I do not and will never tolerate racism if you go down this route successive changes will result in hello kitty in space as sooner or later everyone will have complained about everything forcing game design changes resulting in a sanitised mmo lacking character and flavour.
While I sympathize with your position, its already been shown that a significant portion of the EVE Community is not capable of responsibly handling this degree of customization. Ship name customization should not be allowed to remain - if it is being abused as an outlet for ruining others' game experience. Especially for blacks and other disadvantaged minorities.
I suppose you WANT CCP's annual Fanfest event to continue to look like an Aryan Nations reunion year in and year out. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
Look, Its not like I'm not calling for a witch hunt, just for CCP to remove tools which lend themselves to this kind of corrosive behavior. Its a lot easier and neater than expecting GMs to handle it on an endless case by case basis.
This isn't Burger King. Its not 'have it your way'. Customization should only be exist in a form that insures that abuse is absolutely impossible. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3622
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:20:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
I suppose you WANT CCP's annual Fanfest event to continue to look like an Aryan Nations reunion year in and year out. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
In Internet slang, a troll (/-êtro-èl/, /-êtr+Æl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
BTW Fanfest sucks **** *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Meryl Scarlett
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:21:00 -
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The answer is no |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
841
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:26:00 -
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I'm in the mood for this...
I know it's a trollthread, but I post this for all the smart people out there who like me understand this really simple and perfectly working technique how to deal with life.
People who take offense can only blame themselves, because it is them *taking* it.
Don't take it... problem solved.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:28:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: I'm in the mood for this...
I know it's a trollthread, but I post this for all the smart people out there who like me understand this really simple and perfectly working technique how to deal with life.
People who take offense can only blame themselves, because it is them *taking* it.
Don't take it... problem solved.
And people projecting offense are only projecting their own inadequacies, because those inadequacies have to exist within themselves for their ability to project them onto others. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3623
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:30:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Don't take it... problem solved.
A good friend once said
"Its only gay if you take it"
and by friend I mean cellmate *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
843
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:32:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Don't take it... problem solved.
A good friend once said "Its only gay if you take it" and by friend I mean cellmate Mama told me what I should know too much candy's gonna rot your soul if she loves you let her go 'coz love's gonna get you down! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
843
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:35:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Solecist Project wrote: I'm in the mood for this...
I know it's a trollthread, but I post this for all the smart people out there who like me understand this really simple and perfectly working technique how to deal with life.
People who take offense can only blame themselves, because it is them *taking* it.
Don't take it... problem solved.
inadequacies have to exist within themselves for their ability to project them onto others. Irony, meet Devine. Devine, say Hi to Irony.
You two should have a talk.
And that's all I will say to you today. :)
Oh, my cup's empty. pfffff. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
473
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:38:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Solecist Project wrote: I'm in the mood for this...
I know it's a trollthread, but I post this for all the smart people out there who like me understand this really simple and perfectly working technique how to deal with life.
People who take offense can only blame themselves, because it is them *taking* it.
Don't take it... problem solved.
inadequacies have to exist within themselves for their ability to project them onto others. Irony, meet Devine. Devine, say Hi to Irony. You two should have a talk. And that's all I will say to you today. :) Oh, my cup's empty. pfffff.
O? I knew you changed your face but I didn't know you changed your name to Irony, since you've projected your inadequacies onto me.
Apparently you suggest you and I should talk.
Hello Irony Project tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2014.04.26 23:44:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
I suppose you WANT CCP's annual Fanfest event to continue to look like an Aryan Nations reunion year in and year out. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
This remark is pure discrimination. There is no connection to the proud viking heritage of the Icelandic population with the Aryan Nations, so to slander them as white supremists and national socialists is not very nice at all. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |

Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
120
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
I suppose you WANT CCP's annual Fanfest event to continue to look like an Aryan Nations reunion year in and year out. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.
In Internet slang, a troll (/-êtro-èl/, /-êtr+Æl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. BTW Fanfest sucks ****
Touche. Fanfest DOES suck. However, I'm basing my anal-sis on pictures I've seen posted. I consider it a positive thing that I haven't spent thousands of dollars or flown thousands of miles over a video game. Adults simply don't do that. Good point.
However..... I'm merely pointing out that the player-base of EVE is about as white as your average Star Trek convention. Sure, plenty of Asian gamers, but we all know that they don't really count as disadvantaged minorities. At least, not in the state of California they don't.
Quite easy for abusive behavior to be considered 'acceptable' when the targets of that abuse exist in such low numbers.
Case in point - its well known that lots of gays are employed by CCP. Therefore gay slurs, either in-game or on the forums, are taken seriously and rapidly dealt with with severe punishment. Their staff take it very personally simply because it cuts, shall we say....close to the bone.
When it comes to racial minorities, however - not so much. I theorize that this is simply because they are not significantly represented either in the playerbase or on CCP's payroll. Its well known that even blatant public racial attacks are ignored when they've been clearly brought to CCP Falcon's attention (for example, CODE members repeatedly called 'N*****' on a well known Bonus Room Soundcloud.)
CCP allowing the current state of affairs (unlimited ship naming) to continue is a form of passive racism that is nearly as bad. They have a blind spot and I am simply shining a light on it. Its a small thing to ask, really, when it comes down to it. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3625
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:14:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote: However..... I'm merely pointing out that the player-base of EVE is about as white as your average Star Trek convention. Sure, plenty of Asian gamers, but we all know that they don't really count as disadvantaged minorities. At least, not in the state of California they don't.
Interesting angle to go with
Complain about institutionalised racism and then make a racially insensitive statement. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Sibyyl
532
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:14:00 -
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You can disable the name column in Overview and show only the ship type, corporation, etc. You can also right click the ship in Overview to see the pilot without ever seeing the name of the ship. You've probably done this already, but fix your Overview so WTs/friendlies are properly highlighted.
The only reason you might be doing "Show Info" on a ship is to read up on what the ship can do? I suggest you start making yourself a spreadsheet that would help you instantly reference what type the ship is and what it can generally do. Being able to evaluate what kind of turrets a ship has by using "Look at ship" is also more useful than pouring over Show Info while things are happening very quickly.
Personally, I prefer people read ship names in Dscan or Overview. I tend to rename my ship randomly and it does throw people off sometimes.. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4933
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:15:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote: However..... I'm merely pointing out that the player-base of EVE is about as white as your average Star Trek convention. Sure, plenty of Asian gamers, but we all know that they don't really count as disadvantaged minorities. At least, not in the state of California they don't.
Interesting angle to go with Complain about institutionalised racism and then make a racially insensitive statement.
We were through the looking glass as of post #1.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Sibyyl
532
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:40:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:Sure, plenty of Asian gamers, but we all know that they don't really count as disadvantaged minorities. At least, not in the state of California they don't. I responded to your post in a civil manner, but I see I wasted my time. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
824
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:41:00 -
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This is what happens when 13 year old WoW players try Eve. You should always ask your parents before going online. |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
293
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:52:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:I've noticed this ability is abused on a regular basis by a staggeringly huge number of players.
Some of the vilest, sexually deviant, racist messages lurk in ship hangars everywhere.
Furthermore, I am required to look at them everytime I 'Show Info' on a ship or hit the D-Scan button.
This applies to POS modules as well - and its vitally important CCP act on this before POSes spread to nearly EVERY system in EVE.
I get tired D-scanning systems and finding POS mods named 'Dead N***** Storage' for instance. (Yes, Pulp Fiction reference, but highly inappropriate in any game for 12 year-olds.)
While I suppose it could be dealt with via the petition system, I don't think CCP will take action because they are uninterested in removing racists and/or sexual deviants from the EVE Community. They pay subscriptions after all, and aren't doing something dangerous and subversive like doubling your ISK and encouraging a singalong on Teamspeak.
No. The cleanest and fairest method is to completely remove the ability to rename structures and ships in the first place. I hope to see this in the next large expansion.
Eve is not a game for 12 year olds... If it offends you speak to a GM via the petition system, I like being able to name my ships, and whilst I do not and will never tolerate racism if you go down this route successive changes will result in hello kitty in space as sooner or later everyone will have complained about everything forcing game design changes resulting in a sanitised mmo lacking character and flavour. While I sympathize with your position, its already been shown that a significant portion of the EVE Community is not capable of responsibly handling this degree of customization. Ship name customization should not be allowed to remain - if it is being abused as an outlet for ruining others' game experience. Especially for blacks and other disadvantaged minorities. I suppose you WANT CCP's annual Fanfest event to continue to look like an Aryan Nations reunion year in and year out. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that. Look, Its not like I'm not calling for a witch hunt, just for CCP to remove tools which lend themselves to this kind of corrosive behavior. Its a lot easier and neater than expecting GMs to handle it on an endless case by case basis. This isn't Burger King. Its not 'have it your way'. Customization should only be exist in a form that insures that abuse is absolutely impossible.
I take extreme offense to this. Your callous disregard for my Oneida heritage should not be tolerated. Your obvious racism, as evidenced by your blatant ignorance of my attendance at fanfest, and your insinuating that being Native American counts for nothing is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself and should be banned for your implicit views that Native Americans are so low as to be invisible. I have found nothing but acceptance here in EvE until you. Racists like you don't deserve to play EvE. Now get back in your corner. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
824
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:06:00 -
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In America we have a large part of the population that is just like this. They believe people can't be trusted with freedoms and the government needs to make more laws to control the population. They're a mix of different races and religions... We call them "Liberals"  |

Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
192
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:08:00 -
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I'm offended! Punish everyone!
#$%#@$%hole ...end transmission... GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½ |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5039
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:13:00 -
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This thread is amusing. If anyone sees something truly heinous and offensive, report them via the petition system and fly on your merry way. On the matter of how old players should be for this game is open to interpretation. Just like in real life; a persons physical age has little to do with their maturity once they become a teenager. I have talked to some alliance leaders who do the job very well and then you find out they are not legally allowed to drink. Then there is the never ending supply of man babies that seem to always be playing.
In the end filing a petition under the correct subject is the best course of action.  . |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
736
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
*Snip* Removed wall of text trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.
No
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
990
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:22:00 -
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IIshira wrote:In America we have a large partdskfl blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah hurf lame nonsense blah durf
lol |

Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
462
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:23:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I am a Asexual Drama Queen with No Life.
Fixed your last 1,000 posts for you.
Does a shot and chugs another beer Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |

Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
302
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:30:00 -
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tl;dr version - OP finds bad ship/POS names
Solution - if violation of EULA/TOS then file petition
CCP does respond and does take action.
Works for bad player names too.....all those "Caldari Citizen123654554" we're once some terrible and offensive name. |
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