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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Goodtime Girl
Quote: They're not. Drones + Heavy NOS + web = omgWTFWHEREDIDMYINTERCEPTORGO. But with t2 cruise launchers on a raven you can wftomgbbqpwn anything from an interceptor to another BS, which makes it overpowered.
Simply untrue ...... I suggest you either get the correct method and fitting to fly the different types of ships ...
Removing Nos from the equation (because thats a different argument) but any ship flying constantly around a battleship at 15km deserves to die ......
My Crow v Raven with Precision Missiles = 0 Damage (Keep the speed and transversal)
My Vagabond v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
My Cerberus v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
My Eagle v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
Then it must be bad raven.
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Haros
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zooish Edited by: Zooish on 20/05/2006 20:15:28 Everyone seems to be flying around in Frigate / Interceptor EW gank squads why ?
Because CCP have gone to far ...
qft
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy Edited by: Naughty Boy on 19/05/2006 21:47:58 Because they can't nerf them next downtime so we'll have to wait ?
NB.
What NB said. It's rather silly to argue whenever precisions are overpowered or not. Even the devs didn't take that long to see the problem.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Haros
Originally by: Zooish Edited by: Zooish on 20/05/2006 20:15:28 Everyone seems to be flying around in Frigate / Interceptor EW gank squads why ?
Because CCP have gone to far ...
qft
Frig gank squads exist sinde castor. I rememeber CA roaming in the HED pipe with 'ghostfleets'. The only thig that changed is the state of ECM. It's flawed and it will be changed for the better.. I hope.
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Chain Gang on 20/05/2006 20:48:14
Quote: The only thig that changed is the state of ECM. It's flawed and it will be changed for the better.. I hope.
I have to disagree ........
Before a Interceptor / Frigate would meet a Cruise / Torp carrying ship and it would dead within 10 secs ....
Now I can fly around all day / everyday getting hit for 0.2 damage ...
And things haven't changed
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:50:00 -
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Quote: Then it must be bad raven.
Die, die, die.
No ...... We are talking 1 v 1 and not the normal BoB 100 man fleets ...
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.05.20 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chain Gang Edited by: Chain Gang on 20/05/2006 20:48:14
Quote: The only thig that changed is the state of ECM. It's flawed and it will be changed for the better.. I hope.
I have to disagree ........
Before a Interceptor / Frigate would meet a Cruise / Torp carrying ship and it would dead within 10 secs ....
No. Torps and CMs used to have some kind of agility (well before they started to intercept you in your inty at 3k/sec). They were slower and as long as he didn't have a web on you you were "safe" especialy from torps and noone used CMs at this time anyway.
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Amachecker
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Posted - 2006.05.20 21:32:00 -
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I think people are forgetting (and newer people dont know)there was a time when battleships were solo pwnmobiles. EVE sucked then.
There seems to be a lot more people nowadays that think BS'es should be end-all be-all, kind of disturbing tbh.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2006.05.20 22:43:00 -
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The problem created by precision cruise missles is not one about raven killing a single frig in 1 v 1 combat or even in swarms. Any frigate that gets within 20km of a BS will be nos'd and screwed. NOS requires no tracking and works effectively each time, every time. Keep in mind that 20km is required warp disruption range in this game (discounting insanely expensive officer drops).
But the problem is that in a fight, a raven pilot can sit 200+km away, virtually immune to EW, and kill off tacklers regardless of their tranverse speed or speed in general. Precision cruise missles the way they are now is akin to having a NOS that works at 200+km.
And even after the patch nerf the same practice will continue, only that the BS pilot will need to fire a few more missles than he did before. I would have preferred a speed nerf coupled with an extension in flight time.
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