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Doireen Kaundur
840
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:13:00 -
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No troll...asking seriously. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility
954
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:16:00 -
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To enforce the rule of the glorious socialist dictatorship known as Goonswarm.
And tears, those too I guess. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |

Doireen Kaundur
841
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:19:00 -
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But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
832
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:20:00 -
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Fun.
This game isn't all about ISK/hour. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2753
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:21:00 -
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Alliance morale was GSF's strategic goal.
Keep the line members interested and engaged with the game so they keep logging in. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5503
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:21:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Fun.
This game isn't all about ISK/hour. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3433
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:26:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Fun.
This game isn't all about ISK/hour.
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Judas Isu
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:26:00 -
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Gives them something to do. Don't want your game turning in to drudgery do you? |

Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
154
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:28:00 -
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It lets the kiddos pretend play at pvp.
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1713
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:28:00 -
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Tears, of course. Duh.

... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5001
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:31:00 -
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for the lulz
Also, there was a rumor there would be these: The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Doireen Kaundur
841
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:36:00 -
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Sad though that there arent enough superpowers in EVE to keep the giants busy at each other's necks instead of ganking Jita.
Oh well. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
841
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:37:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Sad though that there arent enough superpowers in EVE to keep the giants busy at each other's necks instead of ganking Jita.
Oh well. That's because about 70% of the playerbase is too stupid to organize. |

Doireen Kaundur
841
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:40:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Sad though that there arent enough superpowers in EVE to keep the giants busy at each other's necks instead of ganking Jita.
Oh well. That's because about 70% of the playerbase is too stupid to organize.
Good point. I thought it was a Sovereignty mechanics issue. Too easy to hold on to maybe? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5001
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:40:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Sad though that there arent enough superpowers in EVE to keep the giants busy at each other's necks instead of ganking Jita.
Oh well. That's because about 70% of the playerbase is too stupid to organize.
2 words: Blue Doughnut.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4019
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:44:00 -
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More like blue waffle. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18146
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:49:00 -
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To burn the ships they had left over from last year.
This too.
Pix Severus wrote:Fun.
This game isn't all about ISK/hour.
Never go full Ripard |

stoicfaux
4655
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:59:00 -
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It's done for the same reason that people climb Mount Everest; to achieve immortal glory by overcoming one of nature's most extreme challenges while sherpas carry your stuff.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2206
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:59:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:More like blue waffle. /me flashbacks to the epic wars and sieges with the red armies in old UO. /me feels EVE lessen 
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
527
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:01:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no?
The amount of damage done looks impressive however its just a dent in the amount that moves through Jita everyday. |

Miomeifeng Alduin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:06:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no?
Goons just produce their stuff in their home systems. So any pricerise will be positive for them since they can sell their stuff for more. The corp/alliance's ships will just stay the same price since it has nothing to do with jita. |

Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
154
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:09:00 -
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Miomeifeng Alduin wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no? Goons just produce their stuff in their home systems. So any pricerise will be positive for them since they can sell their stuff for more. The corp/alliance's ships will just stay the same price since it has nothing to do with jita.
ya'll are really overthinking this.
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Lothros Andastar
The Minutemen Li3 Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:34:00 -
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Epic Lulz |

Ned Thomas
Death Rider inc M1NER CONFL1CT
9
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:46:00 -
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Same reason people climb Mt. Everest.
Because it's there. |

Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
155
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:48:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:Epic Lulz
epic? really?
Light chuckle maybe...a rare guffah....but epic? |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1832
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:51:00 -
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Its basically EVE christmas. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Corpii Herald
West Khanid Blooding Enthusiasts
4
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:41:00 -
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Fun. Emergent gameplay. Whoring on freighter killmails. Especially the first one.
I'd have to check the website for it, but IIRC over 50 billion worth in freighter hulls + assets were destroyed in the main market hub of the game over the weekend. That's the kind of emergent content that makes headlines, and is why the Goons should be praised for doing what they do. The fun that came with shooting dudes too ignorant to follow the metagame was a plus as well. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
739
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:46:00 -
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Threads like this are the reason why we do Burn Jita.
Sure, tears are great and all. But the desert is the wild speculation and conspiracy theories afterwards. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3723
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:49:00 -
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Because it had ripened and started to rot on the branch *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
463
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Posted - 2014.04.29 07:51:00 -
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To make people cherish days when Jita isn't burning |

Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:16:00 -
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Why there must be any point?
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Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
239
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:23:00 -
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My killboard stats mutiplied 6 fold overnight and made me feel like a better fighter.
Also two dozen killrights on me... guess I won't be running highsec incursions for a while. Ouch :opportunity cost: For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Victor Andall
Heleneto Holdings
416
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:35:00 -
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Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like ISK. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch Jita burn. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3723
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:37:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like ISK. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch Jita burn.
I like the pretty lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7gJkyfIBPw *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1297
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:39:00 -
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What's the point of life? The Tears Must Flow |

Crompton Aberforth
University of Caille Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.04.29 09:09:00 -
[36] - Quote
So we can all sing EVE parody songs of course:
I fell into the burning Jita fire I went down, down, down and the flames went higher And it burns, burns, burns, the Jita fire The Jita fire I am the space cadet your mother warned you about. |

Sibyyl
550
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:09:00 -
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I was salvaging out in Jita while it burned. Judging from Local and the ships zipping around (and from Solecist's sec status), people were just have a great time. It felt like you were in a party. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:27:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously.
To fluctuate market prices on certain items, for example ....... freighters ......
and make mad ISK on it.
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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
2249
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:39:00 -
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Anyway, I think that if one word could sum it up, it would be: symbolism. |

Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
10
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:44:00 -
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Jita burned because people LOVE TiDi....
That and reasons. Many reasons. I snapped a picture of the amount of CONCORD present at the Perimeter gate and thought ''That's a lot of 5-0''
Then I flew into 4-4........ |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:58:00 -
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I, or one of my alts that is, was involved in two days of Burn Jita 3. During those two days i had fun. Thats enough "point" of "Burn Jita" for me. Given the cries of joy and laughter on mumble i have a strong impression i wasn't the only one filled with this joyous experience. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |

Teochoilae
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.29 12:22:00 -
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So many conspiracy theories There is the possibility that it is fun for us and has simply become a tradition. Or is it  |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
604
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:30:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously. To commemorate and celebrate mittens getting banned for telling a person at fan fest to go sKILL themselves. Apparently he and the gonnies felt the ban was too harsh. So in true child like behavior the kids lashed out against their parents but in reality only hurt the community. However this does fit with their goal to ruin your EvE.
Are you not entertained??
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6288
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:35:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no?
Not if you're the one selling stuff... |

Lavitias Arjar
You Keep What You Kill Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
7
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:47:00 -
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Everyones forgetting some people just like to watch the world burn. |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
287
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:54:00 -
[46] - Quote
I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
593
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:58:00 -
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In general people please note that even though the end date of BJ was Monday DT, it does in fact continue on for at least a week. Don't assume it's safe to move your Iteron full of plexes through Perimeter and Jita today, tomorrow or, indeed, next week.
Thanks for listening. |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
593
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:59:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think.
Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:03:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be? A glorious event having hundreds of people watch Mad Anis stream to see highseccers get slaughtered... gloriously.
Still skilling for that interceptor... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3764
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:06:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be?
The greatest work of art since Sansha started his "buy one get one free" promotion of "Super-Quafe" *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6288
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:23:00 -
[51] - Quote
Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be?
I still lulz at this. |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
287
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:01:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be?
We all know the number game really makes the difference (how many people in fleet) in weather a loss or success. So take PL, Dreddit, the Russians, and anyone who is willing to throw down to meet up. Cyno chain ect. The GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ arrives at top secret date/ time. Militia flies up to the goon home area and starts bashing. The goons toss together their very effective tengu/ shiny death contraption fleet and go to work. When they deploy said fleet they will target those trying to take sov. Now the mission is not to take anything, the mission IS to break things. So letGÇÖs say we GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ take down some POSGÇÖs and a station, catch a few of their miners in a belt. The hive will swarm and come to life. Now I doubt that the militia will last long but I believe it will shake the hive to where the game may become interesting again. I foresee epic amounts of butt hurt and tears. All out wars and will possibly stoke the fires of change. So before you speak think of all the possibilities first. The activate mouth launcher. |

hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:But doesnt disrupting commerce in Jita (a main trade hub) just increase the price of everything in the long run?
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no?
Not if you have a fleet of ships lined up waiting to be sold.
Pog mo thoin |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3774
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:29:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:to where the game may become interesting again.
I think its interesting now.
I think it will be more interesting if this projection of yours, only for the Militia fleet to scuffle with itself and help the Second Transfer of Power to get closer. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2233
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be? We all know the number game really makes the difference (how many people in fleet) in weather a loss or success. So take PL, Dreddit, the Russians, and anyone who is willing to throw down to meet up. Cyno chain ect. The GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ arrives at top secret date/ time. Militia flies up to the goon home area and starts bashing. The goons toss together their very effective tengu/ shiny death contraption fleet and go to work. When they deploy said fleet they will target those trying to take sov. Now the mission is not to take anything, the mission IS to break things. So letGÇÖs say we GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ take down some POSGÇÖs and a station, catch a few of their miners in a belt. The hive will swarm and come to life. Now I doubt that the militia will last long but I believe it will shake the hive to where the game may become interesting again. I foresee epic amounts of butt hurt and tears. All out wars and will possibly stoke the fires of change. So before you speak think of all the possibilities first. The activate mouth launcher.
You lost me at militia arrives at top secret date/time. Also taking a station taks days. Same goes for POSes. Your militia will be back mining ice in Nakuguard long before that happens. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
593
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:51:00 -
[56] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote: We all know the number game really makes the difference (how many people in fleet) in weather a loss or success. So take PL, Dreddit, the Russians, and anyone who is willing to throw down to meet up. Cyno chain ect. The GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ arrives at top secret date/ time. Militia flies up to the goon home area and starts bashing. The goons toss together their very effective tengu/ shiny death contraption fleet and go to work. When they deploy said fleet they will target those trying to take sov. Now the mission is not to take anything, the mission IS to break things. So letGÇÖs say we GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ take down some POSGÇÖs and a station, catch a few of their miners in a belt. The hive will swarm and come to life. Now I doubt that the militia will last long but I believe it will shake the hive to where the game may become interesting again. I foresee epic amounts of butt hurt and tears. All out wars and will possibly stoke the fires of change. So before you speak think of all the possibilities first. The activate mouth launcher.
To be honest that all sounds very unlikely to me. If you want to beat The Hive you have to become just like the Hive. |

Tweek Etimua
Aliastra Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Here |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10567
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:01:00 -
[58] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:To commemorate and celebrate mittens getting banned for telling a person at fan fest to go sKILL themselves. Apparently he and the gonnies felt the ban was too harsh. So in true child like behavior the kids lashed out against their parents but in reality only hurt the community. However this does fit with their goal to ruin your EvE.
Are you not entertained??
No, Burn Jita had been planned for long before Fanfest.
Quote:This year, we've tied vote totals to griefing. The more votes we blow past on our exit poll, the more bad things we do. The total goal is more than 10k votes, which we'll only know if we got/not come the Big Reveal at Fanfest.
...
10,000+: Tornado Weekend in Jita. Entire alliance visits Jita, grabs Tornadoes, alphas freighters on the 4-4 undock, shutting down EVE and unleashing a maelstrom of sorrow not seen since the Ice Interdiction.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3447025&pagenumber=244&perpage=40#post401304823 Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
288
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:01:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:to where the game may become interesting again. I think its interesting now. I think it will be more interesting if this projection of yours, only for the Militia fleet to scuffle with itself and help the Second Transfer of Power to get closer.
Just because a group welps does not make it a complete and utter tear jerking loss. I will explain.
When you attack an area, what happens?: A: You make them on edge and scared. B: They form a fleet and fight C: They make preparations for future encounters D: They stay on edge, people quit corp, items and people get moved around E: All the above
When you break someoneGÇÖs equipment, what happens?: A: They get mad. B: They retaliate. C: They form a fleet to stop it. D: They get scared and move away E: All the above.
When you attack an area but the fleet welps, what happens?: A: They become bolder B: They think they are invincible. C: They brag and they boast and show the great victory D: They draw plenty of attention to themselves. E: All the above.
When you attack a mega power on their property and break something, what happens?: A: They get mad B: They could possibly retaliate C: Do nothing until you leave D: They form a fleet and crush you E: All the above.
My point is that attacking a person, or a group of persons with lots of time and isk invested in an area will ultimately destabilize their happy little environment. Weather you welp or not.
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stoicfaux
4669
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:08:00 -
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The point of Burn Jita is to show that: a) the Empires and CONCORD aren't smart enough to handle murderous, "immortal" criminals (e.g. lock them out of the faction's stations, destroy their clones, ban them from local markets, hire capsuleer bounty hunters, implement a no loitering policy around stations, make them always KoS to players, gate guns, and navy because sec status loss per faction is permanent, etc.) and b) CCP likes their NPCs to be stupid.
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Doireen Kaundur
844
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:08:00 -
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I see alot of "blowing stuff up is fun" replies.
OK, so my next question is: where is the challenge? Sounds like kids pulling the wings off of flies for the lulz.
But where are those trying to pull the wings off of wasps? Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
I guess I define "fun" by challenge. Freighters dont provide much of a fight IMO. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:10:00 -
[62] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. Well organised "professional" army versus indisciplined, ill trained, ill equipped militia, full frontal attack. I wonder what the end result would be? We all know the number game really makes the difference (how many people in fleet) in weather a loss or success. So take PL, Dreddit, the Russians, and anyone who is willing to throw down to meet up. Cyno chain ect. The GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ arrives at top secret date/ time. Militia flies up to the goon home area and starts bashing. The goons toss together their very effective tengu/ shiny death contraption fleet and go to work. When they deploy said fleet they will target those trying to take sov. Now the mission is not to take anything, the mission IS to break things. So letGÇÖs say we GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ take down some POSGÇÖs and a station, catch a few of their miners in a belt. The hive will swarm and come to life. Now I doubt that the militia will last long but I believe it will shake the hive to where the game may become interesting again. I foresee epic amounts of butt hurt and tears. All out wars and will possibly stoke the fires of change. So before you speak think of all the possibilities first. The activate mouth launcher.
I think it wil end the same as the last time a big high sec fleet jumped into null sec:
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L0PZGN3XI
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6289
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:16:00 -
[63] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:I see alot of "blowing stuff up is fun" replies.
OK, so my next question is: where is the challenge? Sounds like kids pulling the wings off of flies for the lulz.
But where are those trying to pull the wings off of wasps? Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
I guess I define "fun" by challenge.
If you don't find blowing up things for no reason 'fun' then don't do it. It's really as simple as that. I don't find ganking fun so I don't do it, I also don't pass judgement on how someone else enjoys playing a video game.
It's kind of ironic to see someone like you being judgmental about how people have fun in a video game. Most human beings wouldn't **** away the finite amount of time we all get to be on this earth playing a video game like we do and would also wonder (like you are doing is) what the point of it all is.
Hell, me personally, if I'd spent as much time seeking a higher degree as I've spent blowing up imaginary space ships, i'd be Dr. Jenn aSide by now lol, so excuse me if I resit your urge to look down on the gankers here lol.
Are you suggesting that other people should do only those things that YOU agree are fun?
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
288
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:18:00 -
[64] - Quote
I think it wil end the same as the last time a big high sec fleet jumped into null sec:
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L0PZGN3XI [/quote]
Look Goon, living in the past is not healthy. You are also acting predictably cocky. Go back 1 page and read the test I wrote down for you. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
918
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:I see alot of "blowing stuff up is fun" replies.
OK, so my next question is: where is the challenge? Sounds like kids pulling the wings off of flies for the lulz.
But where are those trying to pull the wings off of wasps? Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
I guess I define "fun" by challenge. Freighters dont provide much of a fight IMO. Perceived lack of challenge has it's reason in lack of proper player opposition.
At Burn Jita, I've seen people try, but they didn't try good enough. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Doireen Kaundur
844
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:33:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: It's kind of ironic to see someone like you being judgmental about how people have fun in a video game....
Oh Jeez. 
Funny but in the 21st century, posting any opinion or question suddenly becomes "judgment" for some.
No one is judging, so get off it. Or get some help. In psych terms, you are "internalizing" the theme of the thread.
Personally Im sick of all the politically correct BS in modern society. Everyone is afraid to speak for fear of "offending" someone.
HTFU!! A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3775
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: It's kind of ironic to see someone like you being judgmental about how people have fun in a video game....
Oh Jeez.  Funny but in the 21st century, posting any opinion or question suddenly becomes "judgment" for some. No one is judging, so get off it. Or get some help. In psych terms, you are "internalizing" the theme of the thread. Personally Im sick of all the politically correct BS in modern society. Everyone is afraid to speak for fear of "offending" someone. HTFU!!
Wow thats the fastest bit of hypocrisy in the west.
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6291
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:41:00 -
[68] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: It's kind of ironic to see someone like you being judgmental about how people have fun in a video game....
Oh Jeez.  Funny but in the 21st century, posting any opinion or question suddenly becomes "judgment" for some. No one is judging, so get off it. Or get some help. In psych terms, you are "internalizing" the theme of the thread. Personally Im sick of all the politically correct BS in modern society. Everyone is afraid to speak for fear of "offending" someone. HTFU!!
Rofl, I hate when people project. You turned what I said into a nonsensical rant against political correctness. That's stupid because I'm not being politically correct, i'm pointing out that it's ironic that a video game player would be judgmental against other video game players when the fact is that we're all a little bit bent be evidenced by our hobby.
Your postings about the matter are judgemental. This is what you posted: Quote:I see alot of "blowing stuff up is fun" replies.
OK, so my next question is: where is the challenge? Sounds like kids pulling the wings off of flies for the lulz.
But where are those trying to pull the wings off of wasps? Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
I guess I define "fun" by challenge.
See the bolded parts. If it wasn't your intention to seem insanely judgmental, then pick your words better next time.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
918
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:44:00 -
[69] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: It's kind of ironic to see someone like you being judgmental about how people have fun in a video game....
Oh Jeez.  Funny but in the 21st century, posting any opinion or question suddenly becomes "judgment" for some. No one is judging, so get off it. Or get some help. In psych terms, you are "internalizing" the theme of the thread. Personally Im sick of all the politically correct BS in modern society. Everyone is afraid to speak for fear of "offending" someone. HTFU!! No, you were clearly judging them. That's pretty irrelevant to me, tbh, but you not recognizing it as such leads to responses like the quoted one above.
You showed opposition to what they are doing and belittled them: people pulling off wings of flies, etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

Doireen Kaundur
844
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote: See the bolded parts. If it wasn't your intention to seem insanely judgmental, then pick your words better next time.
People see in words what they want to see...regardless of the words used. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5016
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:48:00 -
[71] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: See the bolded parts. If it wasn't your intention to seem insanely judgmental, then pick your words better next time.
People see in words what they want to see...regardless of the words used.
Words have meaning and names have power.
However, words have no meaning if your actions speak a different truth.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3778
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:48:00 -
[72] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: See the bolded parts. If it wasn't your intention to seem insanely judgmental, then pick your words better next time.
People see in words what they want to see...regardless of the words used. Words have meaning and names have power. However, words have no meaning if your actions speak a different truth.
Ooooh Cosmic *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1425
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:49:00 -
[73] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously. EDIT: Where is the challenge? wait... there's a point in Burn Jita? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Pubbie Spy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
Corpii Herald wrote:Fun. Emergent gameplay. Whoring on freighter killmails. Especially the first one.
I'd have to check the website for it, but IIRC over 50 billion worth in freighter hulls + assets were destroyed in the main market hub of the game over the weekend. That's the kind of emergent content that makes headlines, and is why the Goons should be praised for doing what they do. The fun that came with shooting dudes too ignorant to follow the metagame was a plus as well. More like 500 billion. Please excuse me while I twirl my mustache and practice my evil laugh. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3778
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:54:00 -
[75] - Quote
Doreen Kandahar wrote: Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
Thats the question
Those opposed to this or to its organisers have let it happen three times now
Where IS the Jita Whiteknight Firebrigade?
Surely they dont ONLY exist on the forums being jelly and wearing tinfoil?
Do they...? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
918
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:54:00 -
[76] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: See the bolded parts. If it wasn't your intention to seem insanely judgmental, then pick your words better next time.
People see in words what they want to see...regardless of the words used. Words have meaning and names have power. However, words have no meaning if your actions speak a different truth. Very good!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860
Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
289
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Posted - 2014.04.29 16:55:00 -
[77] - Quote
Anyone else think that burning jita is getting kinda lame? Burn Dodixie or something. Keep it fresh, the same old meat and potatoes. |

Pubbie Spy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:04:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Doreen Kandahar wrote: Where is the challenge to the aggressors? Thats the question Those opposed to this or to its organisers have let it happen three times now Where IS the Jita Whiteknight Firebrigade? Surely they dont ONLY exist on the forums being jelly and wearing tinfoil? Do they...?
Someone didn't want to fight in 10% tidi and constant lag. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3783
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:05:00 -
[79] - Quote
Pubbie Spy wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Doreen Kandahar wrote: Where is the challenge to the aggressors? Thats the question Those opposed to this or to its organisers have let it happen three times now Where IS the Jita Whiteknight Firebrigade? Surely they dont ONLY exist on the forums being jelly and wearing tinfoil? Do they...? Someone didn't want to fight in 10% tidi and constant lag.
Pfffff they need to... whats the phrase Im looking for?
Oh yeah...
LRN2WNT2FGHT
Thats a thing, isnt it? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension
120
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:30:00 -
[80] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:I see alot of "blowing stuff up is fun" replies.
OK, so my next question is: where is the challenge? Sounds like kids pulling the wings off of flies for the lulz.
But where are those trying to pull the wings off of wasps? Where is the challenge to the aggressors?
I guess I define "fun" by challenge. Freighters dont provide much of a fight IMO.
You should try organizing an event on this scale and then come back and ask where the challenge is. -x |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
290
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:38:00 -
[81] - Quote
It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3791
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:40:00 -
[82] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville.
Well either they havent lost a ship yet or this is demonstratably false
You mean to a player right? Cos, y'know, CONCORD and stuff
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
290
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville. Well either they havent lost a ship yet or this is demonstratably false You mean to a player right? Cos, y'know, CONCORD and stuff
Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3792
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:51:00 -
[84] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote: Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.
By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset
But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
290
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:53:00 -
[85] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote: Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.
By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)
Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3792
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:55:00 -
[86] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote: Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.
By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation) Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle.
Please tell me the words that are giving you difficulty and Ill explain what they mean
And yes, a fleet action one year ago nowhere near Jita is somewhat off topic. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
290
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:20:00 -
[87] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote: Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.
By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation) Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle. Please tell me the words that are giving you difficulty and Ill explain what they mean And yes, a fleet action one year ago nowhere near Jita is somewhat off topic.
I will, but first, let me take a selfie. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1345
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:19:00 -
[88] - Quote
There was burn jita? 
Was there anyone shooting the statue? When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4845
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:35:00 -
[89] - Quote
I'm wondering if Jita was simply too small of a target.
Here's the reason:
For a long time now, even before the SoE ships and the boost in LP income from running SoE L4s, I was based in Osmon. It was more quiet back then. I ran mainly SoE missions when in highsec because it gave me better control over my standings with the empires. Running FIO missions for example does not play well with Caldari faction.
But back then, if I wanted something, I ended up having to go to Jita. That's 6 jumps away.
Frankly when goons announced they wanted to burn Jita again, I did not place my finger on it, but I had a "why bother" feeling, like if someone suggested it to me, I would say "what's the point of that?". But now I realize that this is coming from observations of the area from Osmon to Jita.
What I have noticed is that I don't have to go to Jita for everything. Last time I went shopping (and had buttered scones with tea) I actually bought some items without checking the system because when sorting for lowest price it was always Jita Jita Jita and I purchased some items and then went to Jita 4-4 expecting them to be there but they were in fact in Osmon in the Lai Dai station. 
Because of this I wonder that if an organization wanted to really make a dent in things they would have to cover that area of the Forge region, from say the opposite of Jita from the direction to Osmon and Osmon on towards the adjacent systems, and not only gank freighters but mission runners too. In the latter case, affecting SoE LP creation could affect the market in ways that could benefit those who are properly positions and "gunboat market strategy" is perfectly a part of the game.
That plus the crimewatch mechanics could make things quite interesting and spread the love.
I hope the goons adapt and think of expanding in their future burns. They certainly have no shortage of people for it and I think a good time will be had by all. I regret not having enough time to go to Jita last week. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
357
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:50:00 -
[90] - Quote
What's the point? That people in EVE pay no attention to what is going on around them. If I recall correctly it was blatantly advertised as to what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, whom it was going to happen to, and who was going to do it. Did anyone pay attention to the posts or blogs? No, they did not. What happened because of it? 500 billion + in destroyed ships,mods, etc. The tears are so delicious.
TL;DR: Pay more attention to the metagame. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3799
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:13:00 -
[91] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:What's the point? That people in EVE pay no attention to what is going on around them. If I recall correctly it was blatantly advertised as to what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, whom it was going to happen to, and who was going to do it. Did anyone pay attention to the posts or blogs? No, they did not. What happened because of it? 500 billion + in destroyed ships,mods, etc. The tears are so delicious.
TL;DR: Pay more attention to the metagame.
So much this *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1461
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:17:00 -
[92] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously. EDIT: Where is the challenge? they killed some ships and blew some modules - thus increased demand: - miners will need to mine ore - manufacturers need to make new ships and modules - traders will have new toys to play with
they provided people with free targets: - free riskless "pvp" for anyone interested - free loot for those who fast enough (i got some part of it) - free bounties for luckers (i got 10 mil from one guy from NO)
they provided something to talk about on forums, to write for bloggers, etc...
Quite a lot of good stuff i guess. All of it in expense of those who don't pay attention to environment and flies their freighters solo when people kill such things The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
507
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:20:00 -
[93] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no? You don't do this?
New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2606
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:21:00 -
[94] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Also: Is this the face of Peace and Prosperity?
I hope so, but somehow doubt it. I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1461
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:25:00 -
[95] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think. fuuuuuu
you are offering me to leave high-sec? And what for? To blow some useless gooni?  The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1287
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:34:00 -
[96] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously. EDIT: Where is the challenge?
A little sabre rattling, a little amusement at the expense of others ... so none really.
People are risk averse. People don't want challenge. That's why there are corps, alliances and coalitions. The greater the numbers, the less risk there is. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3803
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:37:00 -
[97] - Quote
Domanique Altares wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
Also: Is this the face of Peace and Prosperity?
I hope so, but somehow doubt it. I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler.
Now THAT is going in the sig, you naughty girl  "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1333
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:40:00 -
[98] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:No troll...asking seriously. EDIT: Where is the challenge?
The point of it was to provide entertainment for the gankers.
It's a pvp game that involves blowing up spaceships, people need to be entertained. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Steeldragon Ronin
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:50:00 -
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Goons are comprised of 70% twelve yr. old nerds. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:51:00 -
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Steeldragon Ronin wrote:Goons are comprised of 70% twelve yr. old nerds.
Thanks, NPC Corp alt! "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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NIFTYGetAtMe
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:17:00 -
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I remember seeing a quote from one the organizers of Burn Jita awhile back. I think he said "we don't want to ruin THE game, we just want to ruin YOUR game" (I might not be exact). So apparently the point of Burn Jita is to ruin the game experience for you. |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:04:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think.
OK go for it. Expect highsec fleets to be full of goon alts either shooting their friends or dropping fleet to cyno in your doom. Honestly, the people who get grrrgewnz mad don't even realise they are accidentally becoming roleplayers.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:06:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:I remember seeing a quote from one the organizers of Burn Jita awhile back. I think he said "we don't want to ruin THE game, we just want to ruin YOUR game" (I might not be exact). So apparently the point of Burn Jita is to ruin the game experience for you.
If "You" means someone dumb enough to stuff everything they own into a freighter and pilot it into Jita in the middle of a widely publicized murdering spree, even going so far as to fly past warning signs erected in-game by good samaritans, then yes. In general, the quote is meant to clarify that, while yes, we Goons are shameless griefers and proudly vindictive, our antipathy is directed at other players and not the health of the game as a whole.
Also, you know nothing about Nullsec if you think leading a pile of random hiseccers into Deklein is going to have any meaningful effect. Our ratters are already harassed constantly, sov objectives are giant piles of EHP and timers that take days at a minimum to actually flip or destroy, and bringing out an unorganized mob is just going to get them dunked by the first Bloc FC to get a ping out. If you think you can somehow round up a general Hisec army without anyone noticing it then you know even less than the typical rumor-monger. |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:18:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:[..sensible stuff....
i miss the days when gewns would just post mindless annoying drivel and spam umad? ujelly? this new srs bsnss style is very BOB.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:41:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:We all know the number game really makes the difference (how many people in fleet) in weather a loss or success. So take PL, Dreddit, the Russians, and anyone who is willing to throw down to meet up. Cyno chain ect. The GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ arrives at top secret date/ time. Militia flies up to the goon home area and starts bashing. The goons toss together their very effective tengu/ shiny death contraption fleet and go to work. When they deploy said fleet they will target those trying to take sov. Now the mission is not to take anything, the mission IS to break things. So letGÇÖs say we GÇ£militiaGÇ¥ take down some POSGÇÖs and a station, catch a few of their miners in a belt. The hive will swarm and come to life. Now I doubt that the militia will last long but I believe it will shake the hive to where the game may become interesting again. I foresee epic amounts of butt hurt and tears. All out wars and will possibly stoke the fires of change. So before you speak think of all the possibilities first. The activate mouth launcher.
I'm going to take a risk and address this at face value. What you are saying is very far removed from reality. If you haven't interacted with large fleets, Sovereignty Warfare, or Nullsec Politics in general, then it's understandable, so I will unpack this slowly.
IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NULLSEC YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THIS STOP NOW
First of all is the perception that Nullsec homelands are safe or risk free or that our ratters and miners are unaccustomed to people trying to kill them. Our ratting space is probably the best place in the game to go hunting for idiots and there is a fairly long list of people excited to shoot at us, so working around hostile activity is just a fact of life for people who make their living in Null. When someone lose an expensive ship, we generally laugh at them for being dumb.
Actually destroying structures is a much more ambitious feat than you anticipate. The quickest and easiest would be destroying a POS, but even that means taking out a fleet, successfully knocking it into reinforcement, and then waiting a day and a half to come back and finish the job, keeping in mind that the CFC has thus had a day and a half advance notice to prepare a response. Sovereignty in general, and especially stations, is an even crueler beast. To even begin attacking the ownership of a system, you need to move large pieces of hardware called Sovereignty Blockade Units into place and keep them protected for eight hours while they are deployed. Only then can you begin the actual work for grinding down the Sov, which includes two reinforcement timers at a minimum. A Station system generally takes a week to take over completely uncontested, and if the defenders win a single battle then the attackers have to start again from the beginning.
Your picture of the militia is also divorced from the actual reality of Nullsec politics. While "Goons vs EVE" is a popular picture, it's not what the game really looks like. The Russians are recovering from losing a major war and are generally aligned with us, Pandemic Legion has longstanding non-aggression treaties with us and no particular will to see us destroyed or tempt our retribution, and the people who actually would consider us mortal enemies are not currently in a position to invade us and will not be until a major change occurs in the nullsec landscape. None of them would be willing to throw a major stake in behind what was essentially a Children's Crusade, though a somewhat organized venture could probably get them to lend Fleet Commanders and support fleets that they would not expect to provoke a retaliation. We probably wouldn't mind of some Pandemic Legion FC was masochistic enough to try to lead that particular herd of cats or if N322.5 showed up in Ishtars to join in the fun, but they know what would happen if they dropped Dreadnaughts on a station or something.
Numbers are a significant factor in large-scale combat, but they are not the sole or even necessarily prime determinant of a fight. A well organized gang can defeat kitchen sinks several times its size, and our strength is not numbers alone, but our ability to organize those numbers into an effective fighting force. That comes from internal logistics departments making sure the necessarily materiel is where it needs to be, reimbursement teams making sure that the pilot who loses a ship in battle can bring the same thing to the next fleet throughout an entire campaign, well-designed fleet doctrines crafted by experienced players that find a way for everyone to be useful all the way down to the newbie who can only fly a T1 fitted T1 cruiser, and with the fleets themselves led by Commanders with years of experience organizing large groups of fairly dumb players and managing complicated situations under the pressure of hostile action.
TL;DR: Attacking our ownership of our space or our sense of wellbeing would require a prolonged, dedicated deployment far beyond what we have any reason to expect from a mob of hiseccers operating on their own dime, and nobody else is going to come do all of your heavy lifting for you. Even if you could successfully get a Hisec fleet to come try to invade us or something, it would probably only result in one battle and it would be a massively one-sided stomp. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:52:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote: TL;DR: Attacking our ownership of our space or our sense of wellbeing would require a prolonged, dedicated deployment far beyond what we have any reason to expect from a mob of hiseccers operating on their own dime, and nobody else is going to come do all of your heavy lifting for you. Even if you could successfully get a Hisec fleet to come try to invade us or something, it would probably only result in one battle and it would be a massively one-sided stomp.
Real TLDR... Goons are rich beyond most high seccers belief. More isk than you can imagine passes through their economy generating almost endless piles of ships for them to burn. Most High sec pilots do not have the resources to even start to try, most being the far more casual type player that simply doesn't play enough to amass that kind of depth of resource.
Anyway, to answer the Op. Tears. Lols Phat lewt drops. And Market Manipulation based on the fear of Burn Jita And capital sales of freighters & orca's from their builders.
So, basically like any ganker, to turn a profit. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:45:00 -
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OP requested a lock. Thread locked. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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