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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.09.22 04:15:00 -
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I guess a pirate corp called Jokers, attacked me at a gate while I was traveling...
They had 2 scorpion and 1 bb pilot, trying to kill me.
Outcome: They had to run due to heavy damage on 2 of the ships. One of the scorpions had lost 50% of its armor. I lost less than 10% of my shield. And safely jumped continuing my trip.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.22 04:40:00 -
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You sir, are a MONSTAR. ------
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.22 06:01:00 -
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3 EW ships and they didn't jam you?
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budhead
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Posted - 2003.09.22 06:27:00 -
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damn you are my hero presidio...
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.09.22 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Jexter on 22/09/2003 07:24:36 Admittelly, you caught us unprepared. You could even go further and say "with your pants down":
- We just had a system warning that the server was rebooting in 12 minutes.
- We warped to the gate that would bring us to our base station so that we could log for the server restart. We did this without paying too much attention to the local channel and we didn't coordinate our warps as we are used to.
- We saw you at the gate and ignored you completely. You claim that we were "trying to kill" you but actually you locked on me and started firing without any provocation on our part. It's all fair and game of course: in another situation (without the server about to go boom) I would have attacked you indeed. Just correcting your statement that is obviously made up with the intention of making you look cooler.
- Our "tactical" pilot (the one with all the webifiers, scramblers etc) was late in the warp-in for the reasons stated above. And your move of MWDing 80km away while leaving the drones on one of our ships was a sound one. Not exactly the "I will ownerize your sorry ass" type of approach that one could imagine reading your post... but still a good move.
In short, congrats on how you performed there. It was our mistake not to be ready for the engagement.
Sure enough, should we come to the board and go bully about every single fight we win, we would be awarded the "Spammers or the Year" or the even more appealing "Trolls of the Century" in a few days.
Best regards,
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.22 07:14:00 -
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sorry..the "Spammies" nominies have already been picked but combat reports are commonly spun for that "I was the underdog and still owned" feel
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Avirex II
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Posted - 2003.09.22 09:09:00 -
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Edited by: Avirex II on 22/09/2003 09:09:14 Oh, by the way Mr. Presidio... you ran away that fast that you forgot all your drones behind :D ---------------------- Avirex II Jokers Corp |

The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.09.22 09:13:00 -
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Did Space Invaders change their name?
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KIPPAN
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Posted - 2003.09.22 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: KIPPAN on 22/09/2003 11:05:07 Good to hear about this. Sorry they didn't loose any ships though.
Actually the Jokers, Jexter and Fist at the time (both positive sec), seem to be very coordinated. I should know because I was one of their practice objects a while back. It was in Obe and I was in a Badger mk II going to 0.0 space for some mining. My escort jumped first (bad move), after checking that the gate was clear, and they webbed my slow indy 2km from the jump radius. Funny thing is I couldn't see them until it was too late. Grid exploit or pure luck of warping in in just the right moment, I don't know. Instead of trying to warp away I thought I could reach the gate in time, no suck luck. Boy did I go down fast! My escort doubled back but they where gone in under a minute, with some fairly good expanders I suppose. GG.
Next time I see you guys I hope the joke is on you.
Presidio, keep up the good work.
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.09.22 14:59:00 -
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Whats that supposed to mean reclaimer
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Dirus
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:04:00 -
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ah, is that whose drones those were... sorry, i destroyed them, since i was bored. was thinking of scooping them, but was too lazy.
cheers ********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 22/09/2003 16:13:18
Quote: Edited by: Avirex II on 22/09/2003 09:09:14 Oh, by the way Mr. Presidio... you ran away that fast that you forgot all your drones behind :D
I left my drones there because they were like 130KM away (some were incap from a torpedo you fired at me). Too far from me to wait for them, and server was going down. If I really cared about my drones I would have picked them up. You ran not me.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Vaenesa
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Posted - 2003.09.22 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Vaenesa on 22/09/2003 16:33:00 I'm just going to point out the fact that if the Jokers had killed Presidio...they would not have written a forum about it. I'm guessing Presidio may have judging by this forum here. My message to Presidio... I'm glad you got to come on the forum and jerk off your ego, but I'm about to clean up your scizum. People fight each other all the time in EVE, and in every battle there has to be 1 side that wins and 1 that loses. What makes you so special that you can come up here and waste the forum space with something that only you give a damn about? I wouldnt be suprised if you were just so overjoyed that you actually didnt die for once that you ran straight to the forums.
I must also put some focus on his banner...backing up my ego theory...fast strong dumb ugly...kill the fast and strong...replace with lucky and naive...you would probably be the type of person who trips on the curb but instead of landing on your face you land in the chest of some big breated woman.
Now you can do me a favor, quit playing EVE so I never have to think of you or see you ever again...thnx!
Vae 
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.09.22 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Presidio on 22/09/2003 19:01:05 Edited by: Presidio on 22/09/2003 18:53:18
Quote: Edited by: Vaenesa on 22/09/2003 16:33:00 I'm just going to point out the fact that if the Jokers had killed Presidio...they would not have written a forum about it. I'm guessing Presidio may have judging by this forum here. My message to Presidio... I'm glad you got to come on the forum and jerk off your ego, but I'm about to clean up your scizum. People fight each other all the time in EVE, and in every battle there has to be 1 side that wins and 1 that loses. What makes you so special that you can come up here and waste the forum space with something that only you give a damn about? I wouldnt be suprised if you were just so overjoyed that you actually didnt die for once that you ran straight to the forums.
I must also put some focus on his banner...backing up my ego theory...fast strong dumb ugly...kill the fast and strong...replace with lucky and naive...you would probably be the type of person who trips on the curb but instead of landing on your face you land in the chest of some big breated woman.
Now you can do me a favor, quit playing EVE so I never have to think of you or see you ever again...thnx!
Vae 
You should really use your main character to post Mrs. Vaenesa from Republic Military School with 0.0 sec rating, or maybe you're afraid. I don't brag about my victories, I just wanted to let people know with what type of skill they are dealing with when they come across jokers, I have fought many fights, and many outhere know this, I never bragged about it on forums. My ego is fine without people telling me how great I am. My signature says Dumb and Ugly, so do I sound like a person who cares about what others think?
I never said I owned anyone, nor I said I was great, I just stated the facts, of my encounter with jokers, you are probably their ****ed off member, it is obvious -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Mozat
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Posted - 2003.09.22 19:20:00 -
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Good Job Presidio and thanks for the info will keep my eyes open for them. 
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2003.09.23 00:17:00 -
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hehe i was there that day and dirus can vouch for me .. jokers ... pirates they musta really liked me...
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Immortal
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Posted - 2003.09.23 00:38:00 -
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Now you can do me a favor, quit playing EVE so I never have to think of you or see you ever again...thnx!
Vae
Ahhhhhh .... Blah Blah Blah
Good job Presido. Where did you run into these characters?
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Deneba Zaavi
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Posted - 2003.09.23 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Deneba Zaavi on 23/09/2003 07:37:03 Edited by: Deneba Zaavi on 23/09/2003 07:36:15 Hi Mr. Presidio.
We do not use alts to post as Jokers, or Jokers fans Sir (they are not a crowd believe me) , maybe this is your policy. But rest assured it's not ours.
We're not afraid to take accountability for actions, be it a lucky action or a lost fight. Ask our clients.;)
For us, fun, and good play, are the keys.
NO Joker member (and we are really few... just four, no mistery here) have never whined or nothing about loosing a fight or a ship. These are the risk of our "Activity" dear Sir, and we do perfectly know them.
We can accept it (it may come as a surprise to you Sir, but we all are above the critical barrier of the 18:)) and we also agreed on you having a nice reaction that evening (i was not there... but i can read:)).
I can assure you that many people in this region didn't had the same readiness or luck you showed. I don't really care if you decide to believe it or not. Who usually flies around that zone knows us (more or less). And sure, we're not M0O nor Sinister or RUS, but if we must blow up your ship we do know how to do it, no biggy really.
If you decide to come back and have some fun with us feel free to come by, and we will see what we can do to entartain you Sir.:)
By the way, you see i'm a Joker and i have no problem to show it, if you think the previous post was a disguised Joker well... you may also think about not being so popular... no?;)
Sincerely, Deneba Zaavi
P.S: By the way, re-read Jexter post please. It's clearly stated that you locked on us without any provocation on our part. The Jokers were minding their own businnes, going back to HQ. If self-lying is the only way you know to believe you won a fight well... i do feel for you Sir.:)
Hope you don't stumble on a real blockade. Your ego may be injured with your clone. Deneba Zaavi
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:08:00 -
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"It's clearly stated that you locked on us without any provocation on our part. The Jokers were minding their own businnes, going back to HQ"
i really dont understand the point of this part....... you dont get to choose when you are pirating and when you are "minding your own busness" the second a person/corp pirate's a single ship then you are pirates 24/7......after you commit that single crime then you are fair game....
somewhat supprised to see the Jokers on the forum crying.....always held Jexter in high regard...after the very polite and efficient way he liberated my ISK's....
dosnt mean im no going to KOS when i see you.... even if you are minding you own busness.... can be taking yer granney to the hospice for a hip replacement for all i care. dont care if your midning you own busness or not.........
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals. Our Webby
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:23:00 -
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Quote: Did Space Invaders change their name?
Nope, We're here, and we know the Jokers. They dont talk much on local but i still have that lovely message of Jexter. Theyre a fun bunch, and usually well coordinated. Someone got lucky.
But where did you find them, still around ec-p8r?
This is not a hijack
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:25:00 -
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Of course Rancid, you are welcome to do that. We were just correcting a blatantly false statement by the original poster.
Everybody is welcome to open fire on our vessels whenever he/she wants to: we are the bad guys and deserve being shot down.
Best regards
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jexter on 23/09/2003 08:30:33 double post, I apologize.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:49:00 -
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if you really hate them, open fire on them with ships full of megacyte and dont forget your rare modules!
This is not a hijack
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Deneba Zaavi
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Posted - 2003.09.23 08:52:00 -
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Quote: "It's clearly stated that you locked on us without any provocation on our part. The Jokers were minding their own businnes, going back to HQ"
i really dont understand the point of this part....... you dont get to choose when you are pirating and when you are "minding your own busness" the second a person/corp pirate's a single ship then you are pirates 24/7......after you commit that single crime then you are fair game....
somewhat supprised to see the Jokers on the forum crying.....always held Jexter in high regard...after the very polite and efficient way he liberated my ISK's....
Doesnt mean im no going to KOS when i see you.... even if you are minding you own busness.... can be taking yer granney to the hospice for a hip replacement for all i care. dont care if your midning you own busness or not.........
Hi. Please Mr. Ranicd, accept my apologyes.
I wasn't begging for mercy, i repeat it: We do know our job, and we do accept the risk that comes with it.
I maybe expressed myself in a wrong way. "Minding our own businnes" means, he caught us with our pants down. Does this sounds better to you Sir?:)
This also means that he locked on us first, and he wasn't "being killed" by us. Get it?
He says he was being killed by us, wich, in my vocabulary, means he was locked, and under fire. Wich is a blatant lie. That's all.
He locked onto some of us, and he attaccked first, and this is all well and good, this is the game. More power to him. I'm not saying that nobody must shoot on us.
We usually spend our entire evenings shooting at-being shoot. Is this clear enough now?
Again, i'm sorry if i've been misunderstood.
He said he was attacked and he reacted on our fire and fought back. Wrong. He caught us and attacked. Right.
Can you see the difference?
BY the way, since we do care a little to our reputation, we do think that is good to answer to a false statement, don't ever think for a second we are here to whine nor cry.:)
Sincerely, Deneba Zaavi Deneba Zaavi
"The world is perfect as it is: a complete mess" - Joseph Campbell |

Presidio
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Posted - 2003.09.23 16:08:00 -
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We must have warped in to the gate you camp daily at the same time. I assumed that you tried to kill me, since you are pirates and that's the gate you camp. Wouldn't anyone?
Do you realize how stupid and funny that sounds, "oh but he fired first, we were cought with our pants down.". It is just making you look incompetent. I was only one it is not like a fleet attacked you... 3 vs. 1.
When I looked at your ships I had a pretty good idea of what kind of setup you had.
The fact that I fired first was a deffensive measure, I made you run, so I can continue traveling. And it turns out it was a good decision on my part.
The fact is you tried to kill me, otherwize, if you were still traveling you would have proceded with jumping the gate, from wich I was 100KM away. So yes, you tried to kill me! Didn't you? lol Bad decision on your part.
The second ship I damaged I started shooting way after I was released from target jam. So again You Tried To Kill Me.
I never warp scrambled nor stasis webed anyone, your passage was free. Yet you tried to kill me and failed, having to run away, that's all.
Again I didn't post this because I want to receive any credit from other players, I stormed many pirate camped gates, for adrenaline rush, never once did I brag about it on forums. I post it because I thought the entire incident was funny, given the name of your corporation. And I wanted to share it with others.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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MoVu
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Posted - 2003.09.23 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: MoVu on 23/09/2003 17:18:22 Presidio what solar system did this happened at. That way I'll have my ship prepared for combat, and good thinking in making the first move in attacking them.
Thanks again for the information and if youÆre ever in trouble give me a holler if I'm not to far away will assist you.

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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.09.23 18:13:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: MoVu on 23/09/2003 17:18:22 Presidio what solar system did this happened at. That way I'll have my ship prepared for combat, and good thinking in making the first move in attacking them.
Thanks again for the information and if youÆre ever in trouble give me a holler if I'm not to far away will assist you.

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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Septimus
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Posted - 2003.09.23 23:27:00 -
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Ah, Jexter. We meet again...
It appears, somewhat unfortunately, that we have not had the pleasure of a rematch since that skirmish in Vale of the Silent a few months back. Score's still 1:0 in your favour, I'm afraid...
Just something I wanted a little clarification on, assuming you still remember the incident. Captain Kharesh' ship was the tragic casualty of the encounter, but I didn't really catch what happened after you jumped us and we scrambled for the gate...a little clarification for the grudge-holder, please?
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SYCO
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Posted - 2003.09.24 02:53:00 -
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i agree with Vaenesa...yea...hehe :) ...mmmm jokers got bs now...hehe....i should of popped thier cruisers when i seen em warp in just as i jumped at a gate....n/m they had instajump....andyhooo in bs...nice...mor interesting now
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.09.24 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jexter on 24/09/2003 07:13:34
Quote: It appears, somewhat unfortunately, that we have not had the pleasure of a rematch since that skirmish in Vale of the Silent a few months back. Score's still 1:0 in your favour, I'm afraid...
I am sure that you, Sir, will have your chance of a rematch. It has been a while indeed.
Quote: Just something I wanted a little clarification on, assuming you still remember the incident. Captain Kharesh' ship was the tragic casualty of the encounter, but I didn't really catch what happened after you jumped us and we scrambled for the gate...a little clarification for the grudge-holder, please?
Forgive me but my memory betrays me... So many months have passed and so many fights. I do remember a very nice skirmish indeed, and a very entertaining discussion after that. I kind of miss the good fellows of Obe and P3N I must admit. I wonder if we have been away for too long.
<grins evilly>
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