Even I dont think CCP are stupid enough to let Caps into high.

This *is* the same guy who was in charge of WoD and specifically stated that he wanted all POS in high sec to be destructible. Large POS pretty much laugh at all but the very largest battleship fleets.

Yeah, they announced that they were giving freighters the ability to fit modules and rigs. The thing that keeps people from simply repacking their carrier and putting it on a freighter to high sec is that the freighters have a cargo bay just SLIGHTLY smaller than a cap ship that's been repackaged. CCP noticed this fact during testing before introducing freighters, and removed all their slots (there being some particular reason that cap ships are packaged at the sizes they are) .

Effectively, there's nothing to stop you from simply freighting in your carrier now.

A packed carrier is 1 million m3. Literally every type of freighter will be able to carry a packed carrier with just 2 cargohold rigs.

A: yes they have, though that's under the broad 'any' rather than specifically stating those specific items would be allowed.

B: no nerfs have been mentioned,

I imagine LHA Tarawa in real life standing on a street corner shouting out "The end is nigh! Repent or suffer in hell for eternity!"

Anyone else?

Not sure why you're talking about sneaking cap ships into high sec. As soon as you went to use it the ship would be removed/confiscated/sent back by CCP.

No, no it won't. CCP will up the size of the packaged capital or create a "you can't put that there".

All POS in high ARE destructible.

Not sure why you're talking about sneaking cap ships into high sec. As soon as you went to use it the ship would be removed/confiscated/sent back by CCP.

It doesn't matter whether Capital ships can be brought into Highsec via a Freighter or not. Highsec Caps have very specific rules governing their use. Basically, they're not allowed to be used in ANY offensive way, not even drones. They CAN be used to help with mining, but that's about it. If they break the rules, they get GM jumped back to Lowsec/Nullsec, and anything they destroyed or damaged will be reimbursed/repaired. However, CCP will almost certainly make it so that Capital ships not allowed into Highsec cannot be brought into Highsec, even if they CAN be fitted into a freighter.

I heard 'everything'. not 'all player made things'.

Considering he started that segment with players should be able to build everything, i'm fairly sure he meant player built stuff...

It's nearly impossible, if not impossible, to balance the game around being able to destroy everything. Imagine all starter stations being destroyed - No more new players. All empire stations being destroyed. Definitely no more new players. Or old players not wanting to participate in nullsec warfare. There's so many problems this would cause unless you'd introduce so many restrictions to make the change pointless anyway.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the majority of players live in empire space. It seems to me like catering to nullsec power blocs and removing the ability for new players to get started is a surefire way to kill the game.

It's far more likely this statement was aimed primarily at outposts, but not npc structures.

This is based on the assumption that the rules are not being changed about what can be used in high sec.

Not sure where the bullshit rumour about caps came into existence - the second they do anything aggressive they are banished. None problem.

It's nearly impossible, if not impossible, to balance the game around being able to destroy everything. Imagine all starter stations being destroyed - No more new players. All empire stations being destroyed. Definitely no more new players. Or old players not wanting to participate in nullsec warfare. There's so many problems this would cause unless you'd introduce so many restrictions to make the change pointless anyway.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the majority of players live in empire space. It seems to me like catering to nullsec power blocs and removing the ability for new players to get started is a surefire way to kill the game.

It's far more likely this statement was aimed primarily at outposts, but not npc structures.

but you can trade them easilier.

or get all you cap winnings from somer delivered to jita.

CCP, in the past, stated that cap ships repackage sizes are what they are for a reason, which has never been expanded on.

So they can't fit in a freighter... duh.

How long do you think it would take to make stations in hi sec, low sec and NPC space destroyable?.

Wrong. It actually predates freighters.

When freighters first came out, the pretty much universal question was 'why no modules? And the explanation was that they didn't want them hauling cap ships. The response was 'why not change the size of cap ships' 'Because we can't, they're that size for a reason'.



About as long as it takes them to write the codes for one of each type of station. Just like you don't write a change to every single player ship. They all have base 'types' that can be altered.

Well, I've been trying to explain all of that to people for years in these forums, but it's never sunk in. It doesn't seem far fetched that they're finally getting their wish that everything would be destructible.