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Damon Messer
Miroirs
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:04:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Why punish the miner they are not the problem. Punish the problem and the miners then come to afterwards with a thank you and possible ISK reward. What is the problem then? Quote:Nothing like drawing all of the Ghost CODE members out into the public to build a list from....popcorn? Cool, do we get a secret decoder ring and learn a funny handshake?
the problem is the activity in general. mining. it's boring. target space rock, press f1. wait. and wait. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
1223
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Posted - 2014.05.06 11:48:00 -
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cool story br.....wat? TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.05.06 12:59:00 -
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Alternative Splicing wrote: The only thing that could possibly spell the end of CODE is making the rest of the game as interesting as Hisec.
Shooting miners that don't shoot back is interesting?
Yeah sure, cowardice and hypocrisy are required to be a good codie (lookup gankerbumping)
Alternative Splicing wrote: Right now, CODE has a monopoly on player training, resources, content generation, and media-attention.
No thats what Jimmy tells his codies, but thats not true. There are other much more Just naming the goons and RvB. But since they usualy dont operate very much in highsec, you probably cant understand.
goons even train the own miners...
Alternative Splicing wrote: It keeps its players happy by giving them resources, purpose, a narrative, and an amusing blog.
It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses. Again check out gankerbumping.blogspot.com, that guy goes on roams together with loyalanon!
Alternative Splicing wrote: Blue sec is boring to most people; entry barrier is huge and power is too sequestered. Most people can do is be a renter. Low sec has its moments, but there's lots of effort involved.
Got you! At least a honest griefer! You want effortless kills! You are a griefbear! You want a button to press and then you get a killmail. pfff
Alternative Splicing wrote: You can never defeat what is essentially a consequence of the entire rest of the game. Long live CODE.
Thank you for the insights that you gave us jimmy crtitcs! |

Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:40:00 -
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La Rynx wrote: Shooting miners that don't shoot back is interesting?
Yeah sure, cowardice and hypocrisy are required to be a good codie (lookup gankerbumping)
Shooting miners that do not shoot back is far more interesting than roaming for hours on end and finding nothing to shoot at all, yes. You get reactions, you get stories, you get funny things happening. In an ideal world, yes, low and null sec would be a source of limitless adventure and good fights, but the reality is that you really have to be both patient and lucky to have a chance at literally squeezing fun out of these areas, where Hisec gives it to you immediately. Again, I agree it is indeed a shame that so much good, accessible, and fun content comes out of Hisec, but between mechanics and people themselves, other areas are content deserts.
La Rynx wrote: No thats what Jimmy tells his codies, but thats not true. There are other much more Just naming the goons and RvB. But since they usualy dont operate very much in highsec, you probably cant understand.
goons even train the own miners...
If they produce so much quality content generation, why do a number of goons/CFC roll with CODE? Maybe because bluesec is so boring. Show me one other blog that generates half as many hits as minerbumping.com. All I need to make an impact (for better or worse) in CODE is 2 weeks of SP and a catalyst provided free. Propaganda aside, how many capitals and SP does someone need to make a difference in null, outside of scams and awoxes?
La Rynx wrote: It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses. Again check out gankerbumping.blogspot.com, that guy goes on roams together with loyalanon!
I would much rather have a good fight and lose than just sink miner after miner. I think you misunderstand me a bit. However due to issues already raised, finding those good fights is prohibitively hard these days. Which is exactly my point - CODE is a consequence of the current state of things, nothing more and nothing less.
La Rynx wrote: Got you! At least a honest griefer! You want effortless kills! You are a griefbear! You want a button to press and then you get a killmail. pfff
Greifbears are just animals displaced from their natural habitat, forced into hisec captivity because their natural prey items went extinct when they bulldozed everything to create bluesec.
La Rynx wrote: Thank you for the insights that you gave us jimmy crtitcs!
Always welcome!
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Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
243
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:56:00 -
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La Rynx wrote: It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses.
Every suicide ganker loses his ship to CONCORD after the gank and that loss will show up on the killboard. So not sure what you are trying to say here.
La Rynx wrote: Again check out gankerbumping.blogspot.com, that guy goes on roams together with loyalanon!
You know who Loyalanon is? btw I was present on said roam with my gank alt. |

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:12:00 -
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Alyth Nerun wrote:La Rynx wrote: It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses.
Every suicide ganker loses his ship to CONCORD after the gank and that loss will show up on the killboard. So not sure what you are trying to say here.
More than that, many of our targets take more than one catalyst to kill, so we pretty much accept that our ships lost will generally hover around double what our ships killed is. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
249
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:38:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Alyth Nerun wrote:La Rynx wrote: It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses.
Every suicide ganker loses his ship to CONCORD after the gank and that loss will show up on the killboard. So not sure what you are trying to say here. More than that, many of our targets take more than one catalyst to kill, so we pretty much accept that our ships lost will generally hover around double what our ships killed is.
If they buff skiffs any further our isk spent might become more than our isk killed. But it still will not stop us. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
249
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:54:00 -
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Alternative Splicing wrote:
If they produce so much quality content generation, why do a number of goons/CFC roll with CODE? Maybe because bluesec is so boring. Show me one other blog that generates half as many hits as minerbumping.com. All I need to make an impact (for better or worse) in CODE is 2 weeks of SP and a catalyst provided free. Propaganda aside, how many capitals and SP does someone need to make a difference in null, outside of scams and awoxes?
As a side note, every noob is precious, even in null sec. One goon hero's first words in EVE were, "I've got a point on the moros... and 7 days left on my trial account."
It's all about perception, and how the alliance nutures rookies. The other half of the map wants self-sufficient pvpers who know what they are doing. That also often translates into a proliferation of highsec alts. Cue highsec ganking, and it's just a continuation of the goon narrative of rookies and space communists holding veterans at their mercy. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:39:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote: As a side note, every noob is precious, even in null sec. One goon hero's first words in EVE were, "I've got a point on the moros... and 7 days left on my trial account."
It's all about perception, and how the alliance nutures rookies. The other half of the map wants self-sufficient pvpers who know what they are doing. That also often translates into a proliferation of highsec alts. Cue highsec ganking, and it's just a continuation of the goon narrative of rookies and space communists holding veterans at their mercy.
Though it makes for good theater and an even better anecdote, how often does that really happen?
Obviously you personally are not responsible for the game mechanics nor the human nature that has resulted in bluesec. If such daring tales of becoming 'the guy' that tackles the dread were so common, I would have a hard time believing that CODE will continue to enjoy success on as many fronts - why anyone would want to gank miners or even freighters when there are actual fun fights to participate in? This leads to the logical conclusion that such occurrences are in fact rare, which is no surprise because...well bluesec is blue. You've cleaned out all the natural, legal game from your once lush reserve, filling it only with unpalatable renter-swine, so you come to hisec to feed on the only things you can.
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Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
249
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:52:00 -
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Alternative Splicing wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote: As a side note, evean ex noob is precious, even in null sec. One goon hero's first words in EVE were, "I've got a point on the moros... and 7 days left on my trial account."
It's all about perception, and how the alliance nutures rookies. The other half of the map wants self-sufficient pvpers who know what they are doing. That also often translates into a proliferation of highsec alts. Cue highsec ganking, and it's just a continuation of the goon narrative of rookies and space communists holding veterans at their mercy.
Though it makes for good theater and an even better anecdote, how often does that really happen? Obviously you personally are not responsible for the game mechanics nor the human nature that has resulted in bluesec. If such daring tales of becoming 'the guy' that tackles the dread were so common, I would have a hard time believing that CODE will continue to enjoy success on as many fronts - why anyone would want to gank miners or even freighters when there are actual fun fights to participate in? This leads to the logical conclusion that such occurrences are in fact rare, which is no surprise because...well bluesec is blue. You've cleaned out all the natural, legal game from your once lush reserve, filling it only with unpalatable renter-swine, so you come to hisec to feed on the only things you can.
Quite often. An fc threw 50 million at me this week for hero tackling an exqueror assisted daredevil in a rifter, knowing that I would die instantly. This week we scrambled a kitchen sink fleet that had ratting vindicators and ravens in it. I whined that we're ridiculously shiny, and we only have one scythe between 80 fail fit pve boats. "Man up" they told me, the grim reaper has only one scythe. We killed the Black Core titan on the front page of The Mittani.
The cfc is stupidly fun. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |

Sabria Regyri
The Conference Elite CODE.
3
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Posted - 2014.05.07 03:24:00 -
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It's not that hard to avoid being ganked. Really. |

DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
122
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Posted - 2014.05.16 01:46:00 -
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If anyone is interested in fighting back CODE contact me in game.
Code Swarm...sounds like a good name. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier The Scourge.
215
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:48:00 -
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Sabria Regyri wrote:It's not that hard to avoid being ganked. Really.
Pretty much this. While mining may be boring, one of the golden rules in EVE is never go AFK in space. If you do so and lose your ship you only have yourself to blame really...
Apply the damn rules equally >.> |

D20 Rollings
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.05.16 08:39:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:stuff This, ladies and gentleman, is what happens when you send your offspring to an Amarr college instead of a reputable Gallente institute. Can I get an English translation please?
Sure, but first lose that confused looking avatar.
 P.S. You look like you just got back from Mexico City for the first time. Or so the holoreels say. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18329
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Posted - 2014.05.16 10:36:00 -
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D20 Rollings wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:stuff This, ladies and gentleman, is what happens when you send your offspring to an Amarr college instead of a reputable Gallente institute. Can I get an English translation please? Sure, but first lose that confused looking avatar.  P.S. You look like you just got back from Mexico City for the first time. Or so the holoreels say. The bewildered look is the result of spending an afternoon reading the F&I forums, so many shitposts 
Disregard Monarchy, Acquire Chickens Never go full Ripard |

Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2014.05.16 13:00:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:CODE's punishment will not go unheeded. As they seem to value suicide instead of an honest fight they should be issued Penance Permits. Penance Permits allow CODE to commit a single Suicide Gank's in a system so that their souls will be returned to the station in one piece so that they may continue to purchase Penance Permits.
We all know that suicide is a sin and as such the sinner shall be made to pay their penance in its lofty ISK value.
Remember suicide ganking is a sinners chore and all sinners must have a permit to commit such an act against theirself. We aren't committing suicide, we just sacrifice a ship. Our pods return home safely, should they fail to reach home safely, it must be because of other players killing them, not due to suicide.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6238
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:21:00 -
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So I guess this explains the bizarre, rambling evemail I got after a gank earlier.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd.
90
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Posted - 2014.05.17 16:02:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Alyth Nerun wrote:La Rynx wrote: It keeps the griefer club happy, mostly guys that are unable or to big cowards to go on roam and lose ships. They are to afraid that their killboards will show a lot of losses.
Every suicide ganker loses his ship to CONCORD after the gank and that loss will show up on the killboard. So not sure what you are trying to say here. More than that, many of our targets take more than one catalyst to kill, so we pretty much accept that our ships lost will generally hover around double what our ships killed is. If they buff skiffs any further our isk spent might become more than our isk killed. But it still will not stop us.
That assumes they actually bother to fly skiffs. The number of Macks I still see is astounding. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |

DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
122
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Posted - 2014.05.17 16:26:00 -
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Eventually the rest of New Eden will tire of CODE and when that happens everyone from FW to Independents will merge to destroy CODE. It will happen because the history of humanity has always proven that those who rise to glory and fame through extortion always suffer the same fate that got them to their high mountain tower above everyone else as those below them will use the same tactics to get theirself to tower on high.
CODE can only rise so high before the structure weakens and the top crashes to the bottom thus making those under the leadership of CODE extremely wealthy as they salvage the losses from their leaders. |

Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd.
91
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Posted - 2014.05.17 16:33:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Eventually the rest of New Eden will tire of CODE and when that happens everyone from FW to Independents will merge to destroy CODE. It will happen because the history of humanity has always proven that those who rise to glory and fame through extortion always suffer the same fate that got them to their high mountain tower above everyone else as those below them will use the same tactics to get theirself to tower on high.
CODE can only rise so high before the structure weakens and the top crashes to the bottom thus making those under the leadership of CODE extremely wealthy as they salvage the losses from their leaders.
Leadership of Code? What leadership? I have yet to have anyone tell me when, where or how I should enforce the Code. Hell, no one has even made me any suggestions. If I ask for advice, it is given, but that's it. We acknowledge our Supreme Protector, but it I've never heard of him telling others what to do, he leads by example.
As for your claims that we consider ourselves above everyone else, I really don't think you understand what the New Order is about. We want to bring everyone up from their bot-aspirant ways to be on equal footing with us. We are not special, we are not superior, we do not hold ourselves above the legal citizens of New Eden. What we do is a service and a duty, making New High Sec a better place for all. If anything we are more like humble janitors, going about our duties so that others may enjoy the fruits of our labor. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |

Paranoid Loyd
480
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:13:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Eventually the rest of New Eden will tire of CODE and when that happens everyone from FW to Independents will merge to destroy CODE. It will happen because the history of humanity has always proven that those who rise to glory and fame through extortion always suffer the same fate that got them to their high mountain tower above everyone else as those below them will use the same tactics to get theirself to tower on high.
CODE can only rise so high before the structure weakens and the top crashes to the bottom thus making those under the leadership of CODE extremely wealthy as they salvage the losses from their leaders.
I hope you are actually organizing something instead of just running you mouth about it, but then again your track record and obvious ignorance to game mechanics not to mention reality doesn't leave me much hope.  "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18339
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:27:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Eventually the rest of New Eden will tire of CODE and when that happens everyone from FW to Independents will merge to destroy CODE. That requires organisation, 99% of the people affected by the operations of James and his merry band of dastardly rapscallions are incapable of it, the rest of Eve probably doesn't give a damn.
Quote:It will happen because the history of humanity has always proven that those who rise to glory and fame through extortion always suffer the same fate that got them to their high mountain tower above everyone else as those below them will use the same tactics to get theirself to tower on high.
CODE can only rise so high before the structure weakens and the top crashes to the bottom thus making those under the leadership of CODE extremely wealthy as they salvage the losses from their leaders. The only thing that's high, is you.
TL;DR No
Nil mortifi, sine lucre Never go full Ripard |

KnowUsByTheDead
1741
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:31:00 -
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Top lel.
   Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1222
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:59:00 -
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Jonah, you're on a roll with the hilarious, yet on-topic images today. :) No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18341
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:07:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Jonah, you're on a roll with the hilarious, yet on-topic images today. :) I try 
Nil mortifi, sine lucre Never go full Ripard |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
917
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Posted - 2014.05.19 10:11:00 -
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A warning to all anti-code corps/alliances :
If you do not have anti-CODE. permits, you shall have a war soon, like the guy we spotted yesterday without an anti-CODE. permit. YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
123
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Posted - 2014.05.24 00:05:00 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:CODE's punishment will not go unheeded. As they seem to value suicide instead of an honest fight they should be issued Penance Permits. Penance Permits allow CODE to commit a single Suicide Gank's in a system so that their souls will be returned to the station in one piece so that they may continue to purchase Penance Permits.
We all know that suicide is a sin and as such the sinner shall be made to pay their penance in its lofty ISK value.
Remember suicide ganking is a sinners chore and all sinners must have a permit to commit such an act against theirself. We aren't committing suicide, we just sacrifice a ship. Our pods return home safely, should they fail to reach home safely, it must be because of other players killing them, not due to suicide.
Ah but it is suicide my lovely CODE Nymph for the simple matter of fact that those operating the ship outside of the Capsuleer theirself are killed during the gank attack and do not return home thus showing that CODE does not have any regards for the crews of the ships they use in their ganks. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1267
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Posted - 2014.05.24 01:08:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Ah but it is suicide my lovely CODE Nymph for the simple matter of fact that those operating the ship outside of the Capsuleer theirself are killed during the gank attack and do not return home thus showing that CODE does not have any regards for the crews of the ships they use in their ganks.
Derp. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
198
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Posted - 2014.05.24 01:17:00 -
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I feel bad for whoever has to write out your IEP. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18428
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Posted - 2014.05.24 01:28:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote: Ah but it is suicide my lovely CODE Nymph for the simple matter of fact that those operating the ship outside of the Capsuleer theirself are killed during the gank attack and do not return home thus showing that CODE does not have any regards for the crews of the ships they use in their ganks.
Suicide is the intentional ending of your own life.
What you're describing would be collateral damage at best, murder at worst 
Nil mortifi sine lucre Never go full Ripard |
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