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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:43:00 -
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Just wondering if anyone else is upset about no 8k support
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CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:44:00 -
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No. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:44:00 -
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I don't play EVE for the graphics quality. I mean, the game doesn't even have sound for goodness sakes, shouldn't we add that first?
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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:45:00 -
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Well I just find it hard to future proof a game without support for 8k
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
1699
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:47:00 -
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Do you have 8k display?
I am not my skills but...
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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:47:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Do you have 8k display?
Everyone in my area has one, I happen to have three.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5292
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:48:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:When will eve support 8k monitors?
Probably when 8k monitors cost less than $300..
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
1036
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:52:00 -
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Eve can run at any resolution that you can run windows in.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
1699
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:53:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Do you have 8k display? Everyone in my area has one, I happen to have three.
Ok, then I guess you share usual fate of early adopters.
I am not my skills but...
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Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
CODE.
226
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:55:00 -
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I think the fixed resolutions died with rendered 3d games.
Have you even tried? I mean it worked on my 16k monitor. Maybe you bought just a cheap model? |
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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:02:00 -
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Alyth Nerun wrote:I think the fixed resolutions died with rendered 3d games.
Have you even tried? I mean it worked on my 16k monitor. Maybe you bought just a cheap model?
Sorry I am referring to the textures
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21513
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:03:00 -
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EVE doesn't GÇ£supportGÇ¥ any resolutions at all. That kind of thing hasn't really been applicable since the days of tile-based isometric games.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
986
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE doesn't GÇ£supportGÇ¥ any resolutions at all. That kind of thing hasn't really been applicable since the days of tile-based isometric games.
Tile based games, no matter the perspective, are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar older than resolution independence.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21513
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:13:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:EVE doesn't GÇ£supportGÇ¥ any resolutions at all. That kind of thing hasn't really been applicable since the days of tile-based isometric games. Tile based games, no matter the perspective, are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar older than resolution independence.
They also survived long into the era where games stopped supporting specific resolutions. How well they handled it GÇö be it by scaling or by just increasing the on-screen tile count GÇö is a different matter.
GǪand since the OP was asking about textures, it matters even less: games never GǣsupportedGǥ any specific texture size.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
986
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:EVE doesn't GÇ£supportGÇ¥ any resolutions at all. That kind of thing hasn't really been applicable since the days of tile-based isometric games. Tile based games, no matter the perspective, are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar older than resolution independence. They also survived long into the era where games stopped supporting specific resolutions. How well they handled it GÇö be it by scaling or by just increasing the on-screen tile count GÇö is a different matter. GǪand since the OP was asking about textures, it matters even less: games never GÇ£supportedGÇ¥ any specific texture size.
Yes, but you were talking about the past and you weren't correct. :p
"supported" ... no.
Were forced to use... yes.
Texture is just the modern word for the same thing.
Back then we just called them bitmaps. Sprites. Tiles.
Fixed sizes.
Good times.
But there's my language barrier, not sure how to interpret "supported" correctly.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21513
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:34:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Yes, but you were talking about the past and you weren't correct. :p In what way?
Games supporting specific resolutions did go away when tile-based games stopped being a thing. From there on, it was just entirely driver dependent and the game just read the system capabilities from there rather than have it hard-coded.
Quote:Texture is just the modern word for the same thing. Yeah, no. Textures are something vastly different from resolutions and from sprites and tiles. One is a 3D mesh decoration the other is a display format and the third is a 2D graphics object.
And as for the sizes used for any of the latter, it was never a matter of GÇ£supportingGÇ¥ anything GÇö it was a decision on what to use. It was the hardware that had to support it, not the game.
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1448
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:41:00 -
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8k? I'm still seeing machines struggling to process game worlds with 4k tex.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Council of Peace and Prosperity
3898
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:44:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13127
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:44:00 -
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Were still waiting for HD textures.... and you want 8k textures?
Sure, youll get them..right after the release of Uprising 1.9.....
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
986
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Yes, but you were talking about the past and you weren't correct. :p In what way? Games supporting specific resolutions did go away when tile-based games stopped being a thing. From there on, it was just entirely driver dependent and the game just read the system capabilities from there rather than have it hard-coded. Quote:Texture is just the modern word for the same thing. Yeah, no. Textures are something vastly different from resolutions and from sprites and tiles. One is a 3D mesh decoration the other is a display format and the third is a 2D graphics object. And as for the sizes used for any of the latter, it was never a matter of GÇ£supportingGÇ¥ anything GÇö it was a decision on what to use. It was the hardware that had to support it, not the game.
"That wasn't applicable since tile based games."
I read that probably wrong, as if it meant that game resolution dependency
wasn't a thing anymore when these games were a thing.
And in the other part you misunderstood me.
A texture is a fancy word for a bitmap. Same for sprites, tiles, images, pictures.
Independent of what you do with it, it's an image used to display graphics.
A bitmap. A pile of bits that gets mapped onto the screen.
The c64, Amiga, NES and most other machines back then disagree
regarding hardware having to offer support for the software.
Software had to use what the hardware offered,
which were a short range of fixed resolution tiles.
It's no fun argueing with you on my mobile,
but I'm back earliest in 20min. :p
Not certain we're actually talking about computers of the same decades.
check evesearch if you think I'm cheating with edits. Just corrected two brainfarts.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:42:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:But there's my language barrier, not sure how to interpret "supported" correctly.
Supported = Brassiere...
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
740
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:42:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Just wondering if anyone else is upset about no 8k support
Not really. We do not know yet, that 8k will only be available in EVE2 on PS5 once they made sure it's feasable and they finally managed to pull off WiS.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
655
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:33:00 -
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This was adressed during Fanfest (briefly as a side comment somewhere). The basic response was that while the high res textures exist, it's fairly complicated to get out to the public in the current process of releasing builds to players. To name a few issues CCP ran into:
1. High-res textures are big and .stuff files can only hold a limited amount of data (which presumably is smaller than the size of a single texture) so bundling the textures with the file system is not possible. That was my understanding of it anyway.
2. The current patching process does not support optional patches (which HD textures would be, obviously) and rolling it out as a mandatory one is not an option because it would be many GB's in size.
I believe there were some others but I forgot what they were. What it comes down to, CCP wants to make this possible but can't due to current technical limitations that are not very high on the priority list to solve.
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
851
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:47:00 -
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8k o.O we don`t have 2k let alone 4k...... Yes its Europe..... |
Osaka Takawaki
Order and Prosperity
1
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:29:00 -
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OP was talking about textures, not window resolution. Two completely different things. Besides, I have all the settings at max yet the textures look minimalistic to say the least. When I look at the ship hangar I think of 640x480, not 8k. I have a 1920x1080 monitor (144 Hz). |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1957
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Posted - 2014.06.02 09:04:00 -
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Osaka Takawaki wrote:OP was talking about textures, not window resolution. Two completely different things. Besides, I have all the settings at max yet the textures look minimalistic to say the least. When I look at the ship hangar I think of 640x480, not 8k. I have a 1920x1080 monitor (144 Hz).
No, at first he was talking about screens and then he modified it.
And you pointlessly necro'd a thread and you should have your thingies chopped off.
Ha! :p
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Osaka Takawaki
Order and Prosperity
1
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:24:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Osaka Takawaki wrote:OP was talking about textures, not window resolution. Two completely different things. Besides, I have all the settings at max yet the textures look minimalistic to say the least. When I look at the ship hangar I think of 640x480, not 8k. I have a 1920x1080 monitor (144 Hz). No, at first he was talking about screens and then he modified it. And you pointlessly necro'd a thread and you should have your thingies chopped off. Ha! :p
lol but the weirdly low texture resolution in this game though. It's like ten years behind! |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3921
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:45:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Just wondering if anyone else is upset about no 8k support
Your ability to shyte up a forum seem to know no bounds.
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