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Merk Kor
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:34:00 -
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I'm at an asteroid belt when someone requests a chat with me. They said they had a lot of stuff they didnt want sitting in a cargo pod and said i could take whatever i wanted. When I tried taking something it said i was stealing and would be attackable. Since the person offering this was only 2000m from me and in a bigger ship i decided not to take anything.
Was i being setup to be attacked? Is there any way to make it so that a cargo pod can be lootable by other people with no penalty? If i had been attacked, could i have filed a petition against this person?
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DubanFP
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:37:00 -
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In the order of the questions
Probebly, no, and no
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:37:00 -
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Nashwan Kaneda
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:38:00 -
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Yes you were being set up. No you can't petition for being stupid.
Well done for not being stupid ;)
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:39:00 -
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The person in question was about to kill you. If you want to petiton him you are more childish them him.
brain > petition
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Norath84
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:39:00 -
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yes he was trying to trick you.
safe way to give something to some one in space:
A: drops a can with 1 ammo (or anything)
B: drops what he wants to give into A's can
A: takes his "gift" from his can
"Happy ending"
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Merk Kor
Was i being setup to be attacked?
Quite possibly, yes. Especially as they were sitting close to you.
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Is there any way to make it so that a cargo pod can be lootable by other people with no penalty?
Not that I'm aware of.
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If i had been attacked, could i have filed a petition against this person?
No. This sort of social engineering is all part and parcel of EvE. If they had used a bug in the game to kill you, then it would be petitionable. But clever use of game mechanics is (generally) not.
People do sometimes announce that they don't want the contents of their cans - if they have been killing NPC rats and can't be bothered to clean the cans, for example. I wouldn't take anyone up on the offer unless I knew them to be trustworthy, though.
Similarly, don't randomly accept offers to join a gang with people unless you're sure they're not ebil pirates.
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:04:00 -
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If someone wants to give you an item, tell them to go to a station and you'll meet them there. You can then trade from inside the station safely.
If they refuse and say to take it from their can, tell them thanks, but no thanks.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:09:00 -
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yes, gang, no
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Static Universe
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:11:00 -
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This reminds me of a time I was exiting a station in high sec and passed a container labelled "FREE MISSILES".
By the time my warp to the gate finished, there was already some noob in local complaining he'd been unfairly blowed up. 
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
The person in question was about to kill you. If you want to petiton him you are more childish them him.
brain > petition
well geee, you beat them all at being childish with your statement. you win the childish award!
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Kagero Machiko
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:19:00 -
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sumtimes when i'm in a bad mood i use an alt and play this trick on noobs, spitefull but cheers me up no end.
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CharlieMurphy
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:44:00 -
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next time this happens.....
move to the can, set your speed to 5 ms and align yourself to something
anything will do, but a planet or a moon is good, then open the can and press ctrl and A and drag the loot into your cargo then immidiately hammer the warp arrow
what you get will probably be worthless but it will annoy the griefer and so is worthwhile
you need to keep jumping about for the next 15 mins or so altho i doubt the average grifer has the ability to locate you
dont forget to thank him for his kind gifts
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chillz
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:46:00 -
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This is Eve. Don't trust no one.
Not even your alt.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:12:00 -
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If they have anything to give you, they can trade with you in the nearest station. No need to do it in space.
Make that suggestion next time. If they are out to just try to trick you, they will refuse.
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D'hara
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
This is Eve. Don't trust no one.
Not even your alt.
That is so true, my alt tried to stab me in the back and take all my isk 
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Merk Kor
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy
next time this happens.....
move to the can, set your speed to 5 ms and align yourself to something
anything will do, but a planet or a moon is good, then open the can and press ctrl and A and drag the loot into your cargo then immidiately hammer the warp arrow
what you get will probably be worthless but it will annoy the griefer and so is worthwhile
you need to keep jumping about for the next 15 mins or so altho i doubt the average grifer has the ability to locate you
dont forget to thank him for his kind gifts
So i only remain attackable to that person/corp for 15 minutes? if i can make it to a station and dock before the 15 minutes i assume i am safe as well, no? i.e. the station isnt going to fire on me (Unless its owned by that corp).
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CharlieMurphy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 01:01:00 -
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i think its 15 mins - migth be wrong
but yeah get docked and your ok
warping to 15km and traveling in leaves you exposed
if you have an insta your fine
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.24 02:12:00 -
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if you're walking down the street, and a stranger offers you a free TV because they "don't need it"
you'd you take it?
of course not.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nashwan Kaneda
Well done for not being stupid ;)
/signed
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.05.24 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy
next time this happens.....
move to the can, set your speed to 5 ms and align yourself to something
anything will do, but a planet or a moon is good, then open the can and press ctrl and A and drag the loot into your cargo then immidiately hammer the warp arrow
what you get will probably be worthless but it will annoy the griefer and so is worthwhile
you need to keep jumping about for the next 15 mins or so altho i doubt the average grifer has the ability to locate you
dont forget to thank him for his kind gifts
LOL... /signed again
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Droewa
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:33:00 -
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If you join a gang of who ever it is that wants to give you loot you will be able to take loot from his can without the agresion timers kicking in. You will staty saftly protected by concord you can take the loot from this kind person and your not hassleing him with going to a station.
I am a older pilot. often i have item that are usless to me wich i will offer to noblets i see in empire. ofc i am the exception. most are trying to kill you.
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Lurtz
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Posted - 2006.05.24 04:57:00 -
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a probably
b invite them to gang, gangmates don't get flagged for picking up each others cans
c no
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Ubute
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Posted - 2006.05.24 05:21:00 -
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Another way other than the gang option to avoid being criminally flagged is to get the person to set u to +10 personal standing. If they do, when u take from the can you wont be criminaly flaged, and wont get the warning that u are about to commist a crime. If they wont do this, u just have to ask yourself why?
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Sarmea Moon
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Posted - 2006.05.24 05:47:00 -
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Another point I noticed: ganged and in area, fine. If he warps off while you are still there, cleaning up cans, WARP OUT ( or align and prepare). Even in gang, if the can owner isn't in that belt/area, you can be flagged to them. I found this out when I started offering free ore to newbies in system, provided they were in frigates. I ganged them so they could take from my can. I finally had to go get my hauler, and they were criminally flagged to me when I got back.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.24 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Gaines
if you're walking down the street, and a stranger offers you a free TV because they "don't need it"
you'd you take it?
of course not.
you wouldn't?
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Dentill on 24/05/2006 08:15:48
Originally by: D'hara
Originally by: chillz
This is Eve. Don't trust no one.
Not even your alt.
That is so true, my alt tried to stab me in the back and take all my isk
Alts have a nast habit of spending all your isk. Given my own experience as a student I have a feeling it is not being spent on their education.
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
This is Eve. Don't trust no one.
Not even your alt.
Yea, Im pretty sure that bastard is sleeping with my girlfriend 
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
if you're walking down the street, and a stranger offers you a free TV because they "don't need it"
you'd you take it?
of course not.
you wouldn't?
Is the continuation of that analogy:
"Yes, I'd take it"
But then the stranger can stab you to death with a pointy stick, take his tv back and continue walking down the street - with legal impunity?
What happens in real life doesnt translate very well to in-game. Of course I don't know much about icelandic law 
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Algey
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Posted - 2006.05.24 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy
next time this happens.....
move to the can, set your speed to 5 ms and align yourself to something
anything will do, but a planet or a moon is good, then open the can and press ctrl and A and drag the loot into your cargo then immidiately hammer the warp arrow
what you get will probably be worthless but it will annoy the griefer and so is worthwhile
you need to keep jumping about for the next 15 mins or so altho i doubt the average grifer has the ability to locate you
dont forget to thank him for his kind gifts
If the hostile has you targeted with a passive targeter this will result in you dying. Same if you don't accelerate quickly.
Drop a can of your own, and ask the guy to drag from his can to yours. Only safe way.
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