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Dan Spitty	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:21:00 - [1] I'm sure this webber used to do -90% speed, now it's -86.25% (or something close). When did this happen ? With the last patch ?
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:22:00 - [2] fleeting does 90% that one always did 86.25 -------------------Sig----------------------- welcome to eve, a game for the unemployed, the t2 bpo winners, GTC sellers, macro miners and agent *****s
Ris Dnalor	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:23:00 - [3] no, the X5 did used to be 90%, however It was many patches ago when this changed. -- Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000 -- heh, remember when this actually was a rare thing? tralala
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:23:00 - [4] It never did. The 90% is the fleeting oen I believe. The X5 has the lowest CPU requirement, so it's very usefull in its own right. Old blog
Dan Spitty	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Ris Dnalor no, the X5 did used to be 90%, however It was many patches ago when this changed. Thanks. I thought it did. Amazed I completely missed that one until yesterday.
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Ris Dnalor no, the X5 did used to be 90%, however It was many patches ago when this changed. It has never ever done -90%. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Lorette	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:38:00 - [7] Its always been 86% afaik.
Hephaesteus	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:39:00 - [8] Langour webber has the lowest fitting and Fleeting webber has the best effect 90%. ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:40:00 - [9] I remember fitting one a couple of months back and thinking "oh, thought that was 90%, must have been wrong: fleeting are best" No idea if this is relevant, or if i just have issues remembering web quality.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Dan Spitty I'm sure this webber used to do -90% speed, now it's -86.25% (or something close). When did this happen ? With the last patch ? IIRC 90% too. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Ris Dnalor	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:47:00 - [11] This was a very long time ago. I'm actually trying to check the forms now for any mention of it. I doubt I'll find anything. However I remember a time when the X5 webby was the only one ppl bothered to use generally. I even seem to recall the fleeting being added into the game later than the x5. This may have been around the same time or shortly after they stopped allowing multiple MWD's or mwd/ab combos to be placed on one ship... -- Talking in circles is more dizzying than walking in them... tralala
Emsigma	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:48:00 - [12] Yep, when I started I am pretty certain that X5 was the most efficient webber.
inSpirAcy	Posted - 2006.05.24 12:43:00 - [13] I have to concur with the OP, I do have a mental image of the X5 being 90%. A couple months back I realised it wasn't and then discovered the fleeting (which is too expensive for my liking). I'll bet it was changed at some point.
Cruz	Posted - 2006.05.24 15:55:00 - [14] Same here, I was quite confused why the x5 wasn't a 90% webber. .................
Amachecker	Posted - 2006.05.24 16:04:00 - [15] I have a clear memory of it being 86% at least a year ago, it's never ever been 90% far as I remember.
Arleonenis	Posted - 2006.05.24 16:39:00 - [16] Edited by: Arleonenis on 24/05/2006 16:39:38 Originally by: Amachecker I have a clear memory of it being 86% at least a year ago, it's never ever been 90% far as I remember. hmm probably 1.5 - 2 years ago or something like that. It was really long time ago i remember selling lots of x5s as they was best.. but it was loooong time ago, not sure when this change hitted exactly, i'm far too old in eve
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.05.24 16:47:00 - [17] Edited by: Righteous Fury on 24/05/2006 16:46:49 It's been 86.5% since I started playing nearly two and a half years ago. The reason people use them so much is because they are higher-end and only use 21 cpu.
Ris Dnalor	Posted - 2006.05.24 17:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 24/05/2006 16:46:49 It's been 86.5% since I started playing nearly two and a half years ago. The reason people use them so much is because they are higher-end and only use 21 cpu. & still x5 used to be 90%. I'm sure of it. Perhaps it was 2.5 years ago. I can't remember. I just know it was 90%. Be nice if we could get an answer from ccp... of course it's just curiosity at this point. -- Talking in circles is more dizzying than walking in them... tralala P.S. WHERE'S THE MINMATAR EVENT?
Weirda	Posted - 2006.05.24 19:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Ris Dnalor Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 24/05/2006 16:46:49 It's been 86.5% since I started playing nearly two and a half years ago. The reason people use them so much is because they are higher-end and only use 21 cpu. & still x5 used to be 90%. I'm sure of it. Perhaps it was 2.5 years ago. I can't remember. I just know it was 90%. Be nice if we could get an answer from ccp... of course it's just curiosity at this point. as long as weirda have been using webbers, fleeting was 90% and x5 was 86.5% (or whatever). langour have always have lowest cpu (during weirda time). due to where used to rat in mid 2004, at one time had stack of 200+ fleeting and 500+ x5 webbers. those have dwindled from loss and sold over time (to pay for HAC fetish)... but due to these fact alone, have always been certain of their quality (as long as was using them). couldn't honestly say though if they were switched before weirda time, but unless this thread is necropheliac the timing of it and question of response from ccp is a little silly (iwho of course). __ NOS AS WCS Idea #223579
Arte	Posted - 2006.05.24 19:10:00 - [20] The X5 was 90% for certain but yes, they all changed stats around the time of the dual MWD/AB changes.
dalman	Posted - 2006.05.24 19:35:00 - [21] History lesson \o/ Ok, I seriously don't remember the numbers when the game was launched, but fleeting has always been the 'best' web. With the Castor patch and changes to MWD/AB, the stats on webbers were changed as well. However, just changing stats on the standard T1 and then have all the meta building on that one wasn't such a great idea... Cause to be more specific, after the 1352 patch (17 dec 2003) the fleeting webbifier had -108% as effect. Needless to say that was all sorted in the next patch, like 20th dec 2003. And since then the webbers have had the same stats they do now, with fleeting -90 and x5 -86.25 Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.05.24 21:06:00 - [22] Glad that's solved, Dalman's memory FTW. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool

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