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Valan
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:51:00 -
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A while ago I lost a Raven, my screen froze and because I disconnected CCP suggested it was an ISP issue. Fair enough can't prove otherwise.
Playing with my CNR today and it happened again. Now I waited five minutes for it to unfreeze, disconnect or do something. I was still talking on Ventrilo at this point so its not my ISP. I take a screen shot form task manager showing a frozen EVE.
I log back in, my ship goes straight back into the spawn minus shields and 0 cap. It won't warp because I have no cap. So it just sits there. I decide to disconnect again. I log back in and luckily it warps back to the first stage which is clear, with 1/2 armor.
Any chance of changing the code so when in dead space it warps back well away from deadspace. So if EVE does go belly up I can disconnect and actually log back in with some chance of surviving the return trip.
If it had been a standard Raven it would be toast and I would be fobbed off again. If that CNR would've gone and you had blamed for disconnecting 5 minutes after the screen froze I would've deleted both characters there and then. Its not that the CNR loss would've crippled me it would be due to frustration of bugs which are still here 3 years later and the same old replies.
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BH Runner
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:00:00 -
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From what i udnerstand you're stating you system locked up, and the eve process went on to claim 100% cpu load and became non-responsive, as opposed to the game dropping you at all.
If this is happening frequently, as you say it is, i'd like you to run the logserver protocols in the background of the eve process. When you capture the issue, save the logfile and zip it along with a directX diag of your system setup, and file a Bug Report.
Helpful information on logserver, finding your DxDiag and also submission of useful BR, that might allow us to informa you how to fix your system can be found in the Game Development section of the forums.
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Angry Sheep
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:30:00 -
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My eve bombs to desktop loads, EXCEPT when im docked.. I can walk off leave it for hours and ill still be connected, chat etc. But when in space, whoooa every now and then bamb 'connection lost'.
And before you all say ISP (which is fare enough guess) it does not happen to me in CS, BF2, HL2, streaming radio, any other internet app... so it could be eve, just a guess now.
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Raj Whitehall
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Raj Whitehall on 24/05/2006 19:39:47
for some reason Eve eats all my ram. is not at first but slowly as I play the game hour on hour. the more activities I do in game the more faster ram gets eaten. until my system cannot handle the ram load. at that point my comp does a CTD. I have 1gig ram. and lots room for v-ram. but a comp can only take so much. am not a techy on this subject. only work around I have found is to relog every 30 minutes or so. and that was suggested by another player. it works ok, unless you doing things where you don't want have keep spending time getting back in position.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 24/05/2006 20:16:26
Doesn't happen that often, I'll try and log it.
The thing that bothers me is how to deal with it.
The state of the ship when I logged back suggests that while the screen was frozen the game was carrying on. I had just opened fire on a cruiser and the booster was running. When I came back, I had no cap and the cruiser was dead.
I guess soon as it happens you should disconnect even though this will cause CCP to throw any petition in the bin, labelling it as a disconnect. A lesser ship wouldn't have survived the time I waited. There were 35k hp on that ship with a full tech2 tank running.
The most improtant thing and the mistake I made is logging back in. Stay offline and resist the urge to see how the ship is doing. This will avoid the far more serious situation of having no petionable bug, a ship with no cap, shields and possibly depleted armor in the middle of a triple BS spawn.
I understand the need for timers and warp back to prevent people ducking PvP. But in deadspace or mission arena its not helpful warping back to the same spot.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:11:00 -
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Another REAL pain the arse is when you're doing deadspace missions with multiple accounts and one goes down... I do level 4 agent missions with my primary guy as a fairly hard tank (4 hardners and an C5 Xlarge), with a secondary typhoon pumping 4 large shield transfer arrays. This setup works fine, until either client crashes, which they have been doing a LOT the last few days. And thats just it. Sometimes one client disconnects, sometimes it crashes completely. The first I know of a disconnect is when one of the screens becomes unresponsive. If it's the shooter, it's not so bad, I can just position the remote tanker (Who has no defence) to warp out the moment the main disappears from game. if it's the other way round however, the first I know if it is when all of a sudden, I'm quintupple webbed and my secondary char just warps out...
Thankfully I've not lost a ship to this yet. Although I did come do 55.7% structure when the tanker dropped connection a few moments after the primary crashed to desktop...
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:13:00 -
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Not to poke at EVE itself, but its well known lockups/CTD's/etc of that sort are usually related to memory leaks...
...which oddly dissapear when you set EVE to windowed mode.
Fair enough for me :D
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Miss Eliot
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Posted - 2006.05.25 00:55:00 -
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Valan, the exact same thing happened to me few days ago. (2 Account, both in windowed mode) Lost a Raven because my client froze. Had a second account running an he was shieldboosting my first one but in the end could not boost the damage because i could not activate my shield hardeners and my shield booster on my first account. Just did a lvl 4 mission, so it was not PVP but PVE. As my second client had no problems it was not the internet connection. I guess it was the ram leak.
OK, was this my fault? I would say NO. I filled out a petition and they answered, they could not reimbush any lost ships or items due to lag or frozen clients! ^^ What the ... !
As long as it is clear that somebody has not tried to avoid PVP or save his ass by quitting the client himself such losses should be reimbushed. I know this can be a problem but in the end it would be more polite.
EVE is not a typical MMOG like WOW. When i die in WOW because of lag, i have not realy lost much. Log in and start playing again. In EVE, you not only lose probably your connection to the server but you lose also your ship and items and even worse, the time you spend gaining them. A Raven can be compared to weeks of hard work for many people.
I would realy like to know, how ****ed up some programmers by CCP would be if they would have had developed a new patch for some weeks and then their PC would crash and everything would have be gone. As there are not enough loggs that would prove that they have realy developed something and they could have been lazy over the last weeks too, they would also get some trouble with their CEO resulting in no payment for the last month. That's in fact the way CCP treats us!
As long as they can not develop a client that is nearly uncrashable they should overthink their position again. Else we will see some people leave unfortunately. (including me)
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:12:00 -
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I do run in windowed mode. I have 2 screens so its the only way to go.
I'm hoping stability will improve when I get my new computer running this weekend.
It looks as though CCP wouldn't reimburse me even could prove EVE froze. So that leaves the question. What is the best way of saving your ship? Log out straight away and have a cuppa? Come back 30 minutes later and log in. I defintely don't recommend staying logged in for a period of time and then do a quick relog.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:25:00 -
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I ctd regulary atleast once in a session, and it's very rarely a disconnect. Most of the time there isn't even a short freeze, it just drops to desktop and I need the restart the client and usually can log back in within seconds. A few days ago it ctd'd before it could even load the station enviroment when clicking on the character. But it's a pain since I'm a drone user as usually the drones are left to be shot at undefenceless.
I've upgraded mb and graphic card drivers, re-installed DX9, two new vid cards, new psu, added a sound card, a new adsl modem. The things that haven't changed is the isp, motherboard and the memory. Plus re-installing the xp is the last thing I want to do since it's problem free otherwise.
No change whether I play in a window, fullscreen, limited effects, no advanced filtering selected from the drivers etc etc. Ran as vanilla as it can be but nothing I've done has made a single change to the ctds.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:43:00 -
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Valan:
Try disconnecting immediately when you log back in. That way your ship has a chance to land not inside the DS, but warping towards its first emergencysafespot.
(Unless that feature has been nerfed in the last patch)
If you play with sound, just turn it off, especially in combat situations.
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Peter Stuyvesant
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:36:00 -
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Since the patch my client has started freezing up too. This has never happened before and resulted in the destrucion of a rather expensive ship yesterday.
Unfortunately I was killing respawns on the first stage of Worlds Collide and a single frig spawned near me just before I froze up. He evidently scrambled me and let the 2 x BS and 1 x cruiser kill me. Logged back in to see the boom :(
It is impossible that those NPCs could have killed my gist-fitted raven in normal operation, but I don't hold out any hope of reimbursement. I died with a bunch of cap booster 800s loaded and with spares in my cargo too. Bah!
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Elerie Dana
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:51:00 -
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Just wanted to let others know they are not alone. Since the 2nd Bloodlines patch I too have been crashing fairly reguarly. Yesterday I crashed 7 times in 6 hours, incuding 3 times during Angel Extavaganza. Fortunately I did not go boom but it makes me very nervous about continuing to run missions (supposed to do Rogue Slave Trader 2 for the first time today). Anyway good luck to all and if anyone finds a solution please post it as you are not alone after this patch.
P.S. It is not my DSL connection as that is still running fine after the crash and has been checked.
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:02:00 -
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Try running in windowed with no sound?
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:20:00 -
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Dude every possible combination has been tried... it's been crashing my whole eve career. Sound or no sound, window with sounds, window without sounds. Lower resolution, higher resolution, no station enviroment (can crash even while in station). Run without a software firewall or with one / same with a hardware firewall. Disabled virus scanner.
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BH Runner
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Deakin
I ctd regulary atleast once in a session, and it's very rarely a disconnect. Most of the time there isn't even a short freeze, it just drops to desktop and I need the restart the client and usually can log back in within seconds. A few days ago it ctd'd before it could even load the station enviroment when clicking on the character. But it's a pain since I'm a drone user as usually the drones are left to be shot at undefenceless.
I've upgraded mb and graphic card drivers, re-installed DX9, two new vid cards, new psu, added a sound card, a new adsl modem. The things that haven't changed is the isp, motherboard and the memory. Plus re-installing the xp is the last thing I want to do since it's problem free otherwise.
No change whether I play in a window, fullscreen, limited effects, no advanced filtering selected from the drivers etc etc. Ran as vanilla as it can be but nothing I've done has made a single change to the ctds.
Did you add some thermal paste between your cpu and the fan cooling it?
Add some extra thermal exhausts or fans to your case when you upgraded all this hardware to more powerful items?
Heat causes CTD as often as not.
Faulty memory is also high on said list.
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Fivor
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:21:00 -
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recently have have been getting strange dissconects and the mouse freezing in game damn annoying.. and occasioally currupt polygons from ships
This turned out to be a fan on the Video card not operating properly
new GFX card and it's fine [exact duplicate replacement - getting a new fan for the dodgy one now]
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.05.25 11:28:00 -
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shhh memory leak doesnt exist - it does happen in empire moreso than low sec hence its probably just a busy system.
We should loose a few thousand accounts that clog up these systems ie ISK farming bot miners in key systems once the china IPs are blocked from TQ when serenty goes live.
At leasat until they relocate still should reduce lag
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