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DrSmegma Smegma United 74	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:43:00 - [1] - Quote Hi I'm an afk-cloaker, so I'm not going to complain about afk-cloakers. The elitists of this forum are of the opinion that an afk-cloaker cannot hurt you because he's afk. However you're only saying that because you're unable to see the difference between the character and the player (in opposite to what you keep preaching like a mantra) The character never goes afk. And you have an issue with the character, not with the player. Not the player is in your system but the character. To illustrate this, consider the following: I've made about 99% of the ISK that I have in Eve afk, because I'm an afk-trader. Yet my character does stuff. Very mean stuff. There's an okay chance that I've hurt you financially. While I was afk. You wouldn't call this a fictional danger either, would you? fffffffffffff
Dave Stark 5372	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:45:00 - [2] - Quote hi, you're wrong.
DrSmegma Smegma United 74	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:46:00 - [3] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: hi, you're wrong. hi I'm right fffffffffffff
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5503	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:48:00 - [4] - Quote 1/10 1 point only because you are proudly uncircumcised. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5879	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:48:00 - [5] - Quote An afk character cannot hurt you. If you can demonstrate how a stealth bomber can kill somebody while cloaked in a safe with no one at the keyboard, be my guest. Otherwise, shut it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
Jur Tissant Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:48:00 - [6] - Quote You're still not addressing the fact that the afk-cloaker is, in fact, AFK and cannot take action against you. What do you do if someone realizes this and comes into your system anyways? How is it an issue then?
Karen Avioras Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult 568	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:48:00 - [7] - Quote nah
Slade Trillgon Brutor Force Federated 2830	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:50:00 - [8] - Quote It really depends on the definition of hurt you are using. Can an AFK cloaker actively blow you up? No. Can an AFK cloaker hurt your isk per hour? Yes.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6401	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:50:00 - [9] - Quote What a terrible thread.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1893	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:51:00 - [10] - Quote 0.1/10 I hope everyone voted in the CSM elections! Thank you to those who actually supported my campaign! Even if I don't get elected in, I hope that the CSM that do, and Devs actually use my ideas somewhere!
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 765	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:52:00 - [11] - Quote It's "your" not "you're". Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 1788	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:52:00 - [12] - Quote So I guess your AFK-trading character puts buy/sell orders by himself. Nice... I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
DrSmegma Smegma United 75	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:56:00 - [13] - Quote Slade Trillgon wrote: It really depends on the definition of hurt you are using. Can an AFK cloaker actively blow you up? No. Can an AFK cloaker hurt your isk per hour? Yes. Considering ships are ISK, that's the same thing. I suppose the average alliance drone poster doesn't understand this though. fffffffffffff
DrSmegma Smegma United 75	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:57:00 - [14] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: It's "your" not "you're". Just quoting so you can't edit it away. fffffffffffff
Tar'z Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:59:00 - [15] - Quote OP is right. It is a logistical issue really. If a player is AFK in a station, you know when he's returned and ready to aggress as you see him undock. If a player is AFK in a starbase, you know when he's returned and ready to aggress as you see him warp out. If a player is AFK in a safe not cloaked, you know when he's returned and ready to aggress as you see him warp away. How does this mean an AFK cloaker can hurt another player? The PVE player relies on intel to keep himself as safe as can be. In the above scenarios a well positioned alt allows him to discern the level of risk present. Without any real intel available about the AFK cloaker, the PVE player is unable to discern any level of risk or the probability of being aggressed at any given point in time. In a game defined by risk vs reward, the inability to discern any level of risk indeed hurts the player. The key is to differentiate between a non-AFK cloaker simply waiting our prey and an AFK cloaker doing no such thing. It is vital that any change to the mechanics do not at all affect the ability for cloaky PVPers or cloaky gangs to go about their business.
Ghutts State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:00:00 - [16] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: What a terrible thread. This.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 765	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:01:00 - [17] - Quote DrSmegma wrote: Sibyyl wrote: It's "your" not "you're". Just quoting so you can't edit it away. Don't worry. It was intentional and about as pointless as the original post. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 18249	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:03:00 - [18] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: It's "your" not "you're". Nope You're ignorant = you are ignorant. Your ignorance is showing. Disregard Monarchy, Acquire Chickens Never go full Ripard
DrSmegma Smegma United 75	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:03:00 - [19] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: DrSmegma wrote: Sibyyl wrote: It's "your" not "you're". Just quoting so you can't edit it away. Don't worry. It was intentional and about as pointless as the original post. You mean like humour, only different? fffffffffffff
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 9609	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:03:00 - [20] - Quote Nobody denies that AFK cloaking can hurt your ability to make ISK. We just deny that it's imbalanced. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
Ralph King-Griffin Var Foundation inc. 1350	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: 1/10 1 point only because you are proudly ~~uncircumcised~~ unwashed.
Tar'z Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:05:00 - [22] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: DrSmegma wrote: Sibyyl wrote: It's "your" not "you're". Just quoting so you can't edit it away. Don't worry. It was intentional and about as pointless as the original post. No it wasn't.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3035	Posted - 2014.05.08 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote Quote: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked. As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. 22. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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