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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Over There on 25/05/2006 17:12:37
I'd be interested to see if anyone has the numbers for which does more dmg (assuming all skills to lvl5 and t2 ammo), apoc with 8 tach II's or the geddon with 7, i'd have thought geddon due to the rof bonus per lvl; but would like it confirmed by someone who's bothered to work it out.
Obviously the apoc would still have a higher alpha strike but how long would it take for the geddon's dps to over take the apoc's higher dmg per volley?
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Over There on 25/05/2006 17:31:03
 Originally by: Katsumoto
Edited by: Katsumoto on 25/05/2006 17:21:52
geddon outdamages the apoc even with 2 t2 reactor controls in low slots to fit more tachs... if my memory is correct.
DPS that is, and im not sure if the apoc does have a higher alpha strike.
Logically the apoc has to have a higher dmg alpha strike...it has 8 guns as opposed to 7, can fit the same amount of dmg mods as a geddon and neither actually get a straight dmg bonus..the geddon's rof bonus only comes into play after the first volley.
Btw shar ku, we're talking about tachs on both, I assumed that's what you meant initially too.
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
For Fleet use Apoc. And if u can't use an apoc then use mega beams on the geddon..
Why?
Both long and short range the geddon outdamages the apoc; and if you're in a fleet what use is a superior tank? The only other consideration I could come up with for using the apoc is the extra cap for sustainability, but unless you're shooting at a pos or station it's not really an issue anyway I find.
About the only difference between my long range geddon and apoc setups is that the apoc has one more tach II and a large rep instead of a medium one (both have plates and 3xhsII etc), in a fleet battle if there's focus fire on you you're gonna go down rep or no rep really (unless you're aligned at speed in which case you're fine) so it makes little difference.
Hence why use the apoc in a fleet?
Why use mega beams on the geddon if you can happily fit tachs?
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:23:00 -
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True; but it can fit a tracking comp and a tracking enhancer or two, and imo since the rof difference comes into play after the first volley, and not everyone uses or can use t2 long range ammo, the geddon still comes out on top over the apoc overall in both small and large fleets.
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:35:00 -
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Ok, you've probably got a point about most large fleets; but even then when you factor in lag, ppl without t2 ammo, reloading times for ppl with ammo and the delayed dmg of scorp and ravens you'll end up often getting in more than one volley on a target.
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Over There on 25/05/2006 21:43:03
Yes, many....can't you tell from the fact that I'm thinking about lag 
[and I meant with regard to 180km+ engagements that someone mentioned]
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Over There
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Posted - 2006.05.25 21:58:00 -
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Aye of course, just trying to say in a convoluted way that regardless of ideals, in practice you do often get more than one volley off on a target in fleet battles of all sizes and at all ranges..hence if you have bs 5 the geddon becomes, overall more useful imo.
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