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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:01:00 -
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In multiplayer video games, many players cheer/bemoan the fact that developers often "nerf" certain things.
Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, can anyone agree on what the definition of a "nerf" is? Does it only apply to specific modules, or can it apply to whole ships or whole playstyles? Do stats or skills need to change, or does that not matter? Do any changes need to affect the specific thing that is being nerfed, or is elevating a competing thing a nerf to another?
The concrete example that got so many bacon-stripped drawers in a twist was the Gecko drone, which was given to players in an overly buffed state with the expectation that its stats would come back down to earth within a month, and whether or not the loss of Gecko DPS in a month is a nerf. . . . but any other example works too.
What is a nerf? I am not an alt of Chribba. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5548
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:02:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
What is a nerf?
You're welcome
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4040
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:09:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: What is a nerf?
Its Nerf or Nuthin'
http://www.nerfelite.co.uk/ "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
285
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:18:00 -
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People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1730
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:19:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so?
Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:20:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so? Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.
pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?
I am not an alt of Chribba. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1149
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:20:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards. The argument that started this has nothing to do with being dissatisfied, but rather is a product of hard heads and semantics. I like the gecko. Doesn't change the fact that it is getting weaker in under a month. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5549
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:22:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so? Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul. pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?
That depends on if they share their Cheetos or not.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Dominus Tempus
Forced Euthanasia
36
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:22:00 -
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Did you really need to take the crap from the Gecko thread and make it into its own? |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3318
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:24:00 -
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Anything that does not benefit me is a nerf. Anything that benefits a playstyle I don't entertain is a nerf. Anything that benefits me is a stealth nerf because it's not boosting me enough. Special for eve: Anything that may hypothetically benefit a goon or was in some way connected or even proposed is a nerf in general and a nerf to high-sec specifically. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1730
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:25:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so? Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul. pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?
It's VERY derogatory, considering those sadsacks are the dregs of nerd culture and the reason why women tend to stay far, far away from video games. There's a few games I'd like to get my girlfriend into, but I don't because I know she'd be subjected to some of the worst harassment the internet has to offer, just because she's a female. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9684
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:25:00 -
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I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Verfanny
Seamap Solutions
59
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:28:00 -
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Something that is bad for me. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1730
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:34:00 -
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Where is ISD Ezwal when you need him? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
800
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:43:00 -
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NERF makes toys, like a water pistol, that are toy versions of real life things that could be dangerous. I'd rather get hit with a NERF bat than a real bat, for example (not sure why I picked that example). So nerfing something just means taking something that does something substantial and turning it into an inconsequential thing. I don't know if that's what you were asking.. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
677
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:47:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards.
I sometimes think the EVE community is filled with some of the most entitled brats in existence. I've stopped being surprised each time someone dares making demands or goes on about how they have a bunch of rights because they pay for a subscription. It's sickening to be honest. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Nakami Saans
Perkone Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:02:00 -
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I wish nerf was this advanced when i was a kid Rainbow Worrior of EVE...well...maybe worrior is too strong a word.-á I like to site see ^.^ Would like to make connections with other LGBT players, possibly a corp
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:29:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one.
Or this one?

I am not an alt of Chribba. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13380
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:01:00 -
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I have a nerf something or other gun that holds about 10 darts and I bring it out when the co-workers get unruly.
What was the question again? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9690
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:02:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one. Or this one?  This one's fine. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
908
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:44:00 -
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A nerf is when something gets shunned for the next flavour of the month, despite the thing that was nerfed still being better than the alternatives. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
723
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:03:00 -
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Blue and white ... ummh funny hat ... entire population is 12 year old males ... except for one old guy and a solitary girl .... lets not go there on that one ...
oh wait ... nerf ...
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E Thatcher
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.10 05:50:00 -
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The nerf was created to keep children from hurting themselves. Now act your age.
Balance as being good needs rethought. upon the balance of forces, movement ceases. Principle as old as the universe itself. From a visual perspective, a single point cannot be observed unless a second point is called into existence to observe it from. Euclidean geometry demends yet a third to describe a location in a 2nd dimensional plane, yet another to describe a 3rd dimension, another to describe vector, and yet another to measure time and compute a velocity. When we are properly balanced we will be as a single point in a uni-dimensional universe, unobservable, immeasurable and dead in the water forever. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1111
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Posted - 2014.05.10 05:59:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards.
You inference is an inference, and CCP nerfs anything they can figure out their own legacy code for.
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Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
41
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Posted - 2014.05.10 05:59:00 -
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pretty straight forward
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf
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Arronicus
Ravens' Nest Outlaw Horizon.
955
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:57:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote: Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.
So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so? Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul. pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?
Neckbeard |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2833
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:05:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one.
Yet you posted in the third 
What is that saying about doing the same thing over and over and over expecting different resuilts 
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4032
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:00:00 -
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If you go by GD sentiments, ANYTHING is a nerf. |

Felicity Love
It Was the Year 3030
1784
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:48:00 -
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"NERF"... it's where "you" (generic, 3rd party), the player, suddenly discover that any number of game mechanics changes, minor or not, incite you to rage on the forums that CCP is screwing "your" game, preventing you from earning your Null Sec slumlord rental fees, buying a PLEX, or something else that's "NOT FAIR" (TM).
Failure to pay attention to Dev Blogs, finish the tutorials, ADAPT to change in any meaningful way... well, SUX to be "you".
Hope that helps.

"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2610
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:04:00 -
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something becomes less powerful as it was before eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
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