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Newtenia
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:32:00 -
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Okly day, ive never really run lvl 4 missions before and have just got my mission runner alt what i percieve as good enough raven skills to fly around in one.
Heres the setup im thinking.
Highs: 6x t2 cruise launchers, 2 heavy nos
Meds: 1x gist b type xl shield booster, 1 dread amp, 1xdread invulnrability field, 2x tech 2 invulnrability field, 1x Cap 2
Lows: 4x PDU 2's, 1x BCU 2.
Resists with the invuln fields are 61.7% EM, 84.6% Explosive, 77% kinetic, and 69.3% Thermal.
I boost 792 shield for 172 energy.
I hope to replace the t2 invuln fields with dread as soon as possible. My agent gives me mostly kill missions for angel cartel targets, However the Em resistance obviously seems a bit low and worrying, is there a better setup i could use to get more EM resistance also?
Thanks in advance for any advice and input.
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Zafon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Zafon on 26/05/2006 10:00:47
Looks more than adequate to me. Rat specific hardeners might be a better option than the invulnerability fields but that would require refitting 
Edit: With all that faction gear how come you don't have a CNR?
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:47:00 -
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I was thinking the same as the above poster. Rat specific hardners should work bether when facing guristas or especially sansha/bloods. Ofcourse when you are facing something like the bonus stage on the gurristas extravaganze all you need is some really top notch kinetic and some thermal resistance. Otherwise that seems like a good setup.
Can you run the booster infinite?
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Zafon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:51:00 -
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Funny sig MrRookie :-).
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Zafon
Funny sig MrRookie :-).
thanks :)
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2006.05.26 15:23:00 -
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if u manage to fit it, an amp always > cap recharger ( unless theyre 4 or sum)
if all ur cap goes to shield boosting why not boost 30% (or more ) more instead of making cap recharge 20%. Theoretically save 10% 
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie
I was thinking the same as the above poster. Rat specific hardners should work bether when facing guristas or especially sansha/bloods. Ofcourse when you are facing something like the bonus stage on the gurristas extravaganze all you need is some really top notch kinetic and some thermal resistance. Otherwise that seems like a good setup.
Can you run the booster infinite?
In answer to your non stop booster comment with that setup prob not.
I run Gist X type XL, Gist X type amp and 2 x DG invuls plus 2 officer cap rechargers (28% and 24%) in mids, Lows are Cormacks PDS, dark blood CPR and 3 faction/ officer BCU. With this setup cap recharge is 234 secs on 5380 cap size. This will run booster forever with cap stable at 40% to 43%. Can also be achieved with 2 x PDS II, dark blood CPR and 2 x BCU in lows. Booster cap usage is 183.6 / 4 secs and I boost 1158 dp due to low grade crystal set. Skills are pretty much maxed out on all relevant areas. This setup does not need Nos in high slot so not subject to jamming in Guristas missions.
I use this setup for all Lvl 4 missions and have had to tank a few whole lvls due to lag etc causing game locks and sever crashes, everytime ship has survived in lvl until I have logged back on, it is comforting to know that ship will not die even due to a game problem which sadly seem to be becoming more frequent these days.
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Alvida
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:19:00 -
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Uh, that's deffy one expensive setup.... I go cheaper by fitting:
6X Siege IIs, 2X Mediumbeam laser IIs(for the frigs)
1Xlarge shieldbooster II, 1Xshieldboostamplifier, 4X racespecific shieldhardeners( Eg. Serpentis: 2XBallistic, 2XThermal) OR 4X Invulnifields.
1Xballistic control II, 4X Capacitor power relays
5X medium combat drones (cruisers), 5X Light Scout drones(Frigs)
(I know I'll get flamed for fitting Capacitor power on a shield tanker, BUT this kit will tank 24/7, even with the mediumbeams running with multispecs!)
This setup will have U soloing all lvl 4s exept the obvious (Worlds collide etc.)+ it's a helluwa lot cheaper than Ur (very impressive ) setup.
P.S. (no not U Princess Sophie!) I haven't taken into account wether the tank will hold if U don't have good capskills... - Go train 'em if Ur in doubt!!! :)
Regards Alvida
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.05.27 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Alvida
Uh, that's deffy one expensive setup.... I go cheaper by fitting:
6X Siege IIs, 2X Mediumbeam laser IIs(for the frigs)
1Xlarge shieldbooster II, 1Xshieldboostamplifier, 4X racespecific shieldhardeners( Eg. Serpentis: 2XBallistic, 2XThermal) OR 4X Invulnifields.
1Xballistic control II, 4X Capacitor power relays
5X medium combat drones (cruisers), 5X Light Scout drones(Frigs)
(I know I'll get flamed for fitting Capacitor power on a shield tanker, BUT this kit will tank 24/7, even with the mediumbeams running with multispecs!)
This setup will have U soloing all lvl 4s exept the obvious (Worlds collide etc.)+ it's a helluwa lot cheaper than Ur (very impressive ) setup.
P.S. (no not U Princess Sophie!) I haven't taken into account wether the tank will hold if U don't have good capskills... - Go train 'em if Ur in doubt!!! :)
Regards Alvida
This setup is CRAP because:
-cruise are a lot better for the small:big ships ratios you get in lvl 4's
-a large shield booster wont be able to tank more than a lvl 3
-cap relays
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Posted - 2006.05.27 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
This setup is CRAP because:
-cruise are a lot better for the small:big ships ratios you get in lvl 4's
-a large shield booster wont be able to tank more than a lvl 3
-cap relays
What are you talking about?
First of all, faction specific-hardeners will definitely make it a lot easier to combat Level IV's
All-cruise missiles is almost as bad, best combo is 3/3.
XLarge shield booster Tech 2 is the biggest shield booster there is for battleships. How it would not work is beyond MY comprehension.
The cap-relays adds enough capacitor to be able to sustain the hardeners, and that's that.
Add medium tech 2 drones, and you'll easily be able to fend off any pesky frigs or cruisers.
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.05.27 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: dabster
This setup is CRAP because:
-cruise are a lot better for the small:big ships ratios you get in lvl 4's
-a large shield booster wont be able to tank more than a lvl 3
-cap relays
What are you talking about?
First of all, faction specific-hardeners will definitely make it a lot easier to combat Level IV's
All-cruise missiles is almost as bad, best combo is 3/3.
XLarge shield booster Tech 2 is the biggest shield booster there is for battleships. How it would not work is beyond MY comprehension.
The cap-relays adds enough capacitor to be able to sustain the hardeners, and that's that.
Add medium tech 2 drones, and you'll easily be able to fend off any pesky frigs or cruisers.
He isnt using XLarge booster, he's using Large, if you read closer. A Large booster wont tank enough dps, especially not when you nerf it with cap-relays.
Go ahead and use torps if you want but i guarantee you i will finish any lvl 4 there is, faster with cruise, and using less missiles.
(except 1 specific mission with a stupidly overpowered tanking Raven called Rachen)
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Alvida
1Xlarge shieldbooster II
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Ayulin
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Alvida
1Xlarge shieldbooster II
I believe the confusion here is that usually XLarge stands for Extra Large (as it should), but Alvida is using it to mean 1x Large Shield Booster II (the way I'd write it, at least.) The rest of the items for the setup Alvida is listing are written out with a capital X used instead of a lower-case one (as in, 1X Cruise Launcher instead of 1x Cruise Launcher.)
(If that makes sense.)
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.05.28 18:06:00 -
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What Ayulin says^^
Read everything instead of just that line, and you will see he uses X as *.
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Posted - 2006.05.28 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: Alvida
Uh, that's deffy one expensive setup.... I go cheaper by fitting:
6X Siege IIs, 2X Mediumbeam laser IIs(for the frigs)
1Xlarge shieldbooster II, 1Xshieldboostamplifier, 4X racespecific shieldhardeners( Eg. Serpentis: 2XBallistic, 2XThermal) OR 4X Invulnifields.
1Xballistic control II, 4X Capacitor power relays
5X medium combat drones (cruisers), 5X Light Scout drones(Frigs)
(I know I'll get flamed for fitting Capacitor power on a shield tanker, BUT this kit will tank 24/7, even with the mediumbeams running with multispecs!)
This setup will have U soloing all lvl 4s exept the obvious (Worlds collide etc.)+ it's a helluwa lot cheaper than Ur (very impressive ) setup.
P.S. (no not U Princess Sophie!) I haven't taken into account wether the tank will hold if U don't have good capskills... - Go train 'em if Ur in doubt!!! :)
Regards Alvida
This setup is CRAP because:
-cruise are a lot better for the small:big ships ratios you get in lvl 4's
-a large shield booster wont be able to tank more than a lvl 3
-cap relays
- i agree, easier to fit to.
- Thats an outright lie... if you cant tank a level 4 with a large booster you are doing something wrong. (i can do any level 4 with a large booster) Generaly the difference between a large and an Xlarge is that the XLarge boosts faster but usese the same cap/hp. I for one, run out of cap long before sheilds (in the rare cases that i actually find a mission hard, enemies abound 5 of 5 for example) Therefore there is 0 advantage to an XL booster over a L booster (for me). Anyways if you know nothing about doing missions or The modules required dont post.
- Yes cap relays are ****... the guy who was fitting them also clearly does not know how moduls work either.
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Thalamus
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Posted - 2006.05.30 06:41:00 -
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I would think that 4 x cap power relays would really gimp shield boosting.
Thats a -%40 shield boosting penalty, lets say your using a large T2 + a standard amp your looking at a -%10 reduction overall from shield boosting.
so 240 boost - 40% + 30% = 216 shield boost every 4 seconds.
not sure if I would go with that.
Might be better off going with 2 x PDU II's and 2 x cap flux coils if you need to fit your tank with so many cap recharge mods.
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