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Adama Caprica
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:54:00 -
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Greetings to those who say "Yarrr!", and everyone else too! 
I just wanted to share my first two experiences I have had with pirates in 0.4 space. Please don't view my first post on the EVE forums as whiney, I just have some questions and look forward to reading your opinions.
I was bored. So very bored. Waiting for that skill that never seems to finish, cleaning off the crap that seems to accumulate on my ships hull after a hard day's mining etc.. So I thought "Hey! I know! Lets go meet some pirates!". And meet one I did. While exploring the asteroid belts, I was targeted and warp scrambled. Literally, I thought the following:
"AWESOME! Finally some action..."
I got blown away, of course, before I could even lock my weapons lol. Byebye Thorax number two (first Thorax was lost due to an embarrassing noob-ish error on my part). Ah dear. Now, I found the whole experience quite exciting but something was missing from the whole experience. No pirate talk! No communications of any kind, no ransom or even toying with me a little. Just lock weapons, blow away, all in a days work - next belt here I come. He was kind enough to leave me in my pod so I could run away back home, which I respect and I am great full for his... urm... what's the word? Kindness?! 
Encounter number two was a little more harsh, but understandably part of the game's mechanics and however that person likes to roleplay. Today I was fighting rats in 0.4 space and in the middle of battle, I was jumped by another pirate! The rats were proving no problem and my shields were barely scratched, but by the time I realized what was going on (should really look at contact info more often) it was all over... damn missile frigates! Thinking I was safe to warp away, he targeted my pod and *squish*... woke up back home in secure space.
Again, no Pirate talk! No communications etc... at all. Now to me, part of the whole pirate experience is to roleplay a pirate's behavior to some extent. If I were a pirate, I would find the whole "Yarrr, gimme your booty" and "Money or loose yer ship" talk quite fun to do and, depending on your target's personality, it's more of an experience for the victim if he gets to interact with the pirate on some level, even if it doesn't really change the overall outcome. I know everyone has their own take on the pirate life and how they wish to roleplay. I am not saying the two pirates (if that's what they were) were wrong in anyway, it must be their play style, but I'm hoping there are pirates out there who do make the effort to make things a little more interesting for us!
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say... I know I am making a huge assumption that they were indeed pirates... they may not have been and were simply predators looking for kills, loot etc. I guess I made myself expect something that doesn't happen, or my view simply isn't correct due to a lack of experience (I am still not even a month old, character wise  ) but I thought pirates would have been.. a little more.. piratey?
Well, two encounters in a month can hardly be an accurate portrayal of pirate life, roleplay, variations etc... I know... Perhaps the fact they exhibited no form of pirate behavior (of the kind I am describing) in itself demonstrates they weren't pirates at all.
Maybe I'll be a pirate one day. But I'm gonna go "Yarrrrr!" an awful lot...
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:09:00 -
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not too many people pay the ransom these days, so a lot of pirates don't bother trying =\
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/05/2006 19:39:01
 Originally by: Golden Helmet
not too many people pay the ransom these days, so a lot of pirates don't bother trying =\
Piracy is dead. The future word for piracy will be killing. Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Adama Caprica
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Posted - 2006.05.26 19:49:00 -
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Short but to the point... thanks 
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:15:00 -
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You seem to have the wrong idea here. Maybe some people try and roleplay storybook pirates, but you do realise that there are real world pirates who probably don't say "Yarrr" or talk more than necessary?
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Krist Valentine
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:06:00 -
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I've noticed what you're talking about. Back in the day when I pirated, I always opened a conversation, gave a little friendly chit chat and then, with a yo ho ho and a bottle of rum, I'd demand however much ransom. Most people these days just hope for decent loot. Boring.
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Kasumo
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kasumo on 26/05/2006 22:29:14
I have been trying to ransom people (barges, cruisers, frigates) for the last two days with my pirate character. Not one even accepted the convo! The only guy that actually send me money was a chinese player which was possibly macro mining in 0.5. I made a kamikaze attack against him because I thought the system was 0.4. He convoed me and talked something about "we be friends now?" and send me 200k isk. lol.
I killed 7 ships in these two days and poded one guy who logged... I'll try my luck another two days and then it's "lock & kill" without questions asked. Sad :(
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Adama Caprica
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Adama Caprica on 26/05/2006 23:09:11
Edited by: Adama Caprica on 26/05/2006 23:08:59
Kelron Queldine:
I accept the fact that not everyone roleplays and I may have a very stereotypical view of the whole pirate thing. I agree that in real life it is much different. But isn't that the whole point of games like this? To roleplay? Unless your roleplaying a pirate who doesn't roleplay and just kills stuff... yeah, that makes sense.
I know some players hate pirates and may refuse to take part in such roleplay, perhaps as a last act of defiance... not wanting to give the pirate much satisfaction other than the loot he or she receives.
Well, I like pirates, I like being pirated... perhaps one day I'll meet my kind of pirate 
Kasumo:
Don't be disheartened... there must be more people out there with a similar play-style to mine (with regards to pirate interaction).
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:21:00 -
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What I'm trying to say is that it's possible to roleplay a pirate without going "Yarrr!" and swigging rum. Because I'm sure you understand that real pirates don't do that anymore (and personally I find it doubtful that they ever did, but maybe I'm wrong).
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Adama Caprica
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:43:00 -
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It's fun to imagine they did / do :o)
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:50:00 -
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If you people wouldnt fit 3 wcs on a ******* celestis while npcing, then yes - i would consider ransoming in that particular case.
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Nazzerin
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Adama Caprica
Greetings to those who say "Yarrr!", and everyone else too!
I just wanted to share my first two experiences I have had with pirates in 0.4 space. Please don't view my first post on the EVE forums as whiney, I just have some questions and look forward to reading your opinions.
I was bored. So very bored. Waiting for that skill that never seems to finish, cleaning off the crap that seems to accumulate on my ships hull after a hard day's mining etc.. So I thought "Hey! I know! Lets go meet some pirates!". And meet one I did. While exploring the asteroid belts, I was targeted and warp scrambled. Literally, I thought the following:
"AWESOME! Finally some action..."
I got blown away, of course, before I could even lock my weapons lol. Byebye Thorax number two (first Thorax was lost due to an embarrassing noob-ish error on my part). Ah dear. Now, I found the whole experience quite exciting but something was missing from the whole experience. No pirate talk! No communications of any kind, no ransom or even toying with me a little. Just lock weapons, blow away, all in a days work - next belt here I come. He was kind enough to leave me in my pod so I could run away back home, which I respect and I am great full for his... urm... what's the word? Kindness?!
Encounter number two was a little more harsh, but understandably part of the game's mechanics and however that person likes to roleplay. Today I was fighting rats in 0.4 space and in the middle of battle, I was jumped by another pirate! The rats were proving no problem and my shields were barely scratched, but by the time I realized what was going on (should really look at contact info more often) it was all over... damn missile frigates! Thinking I was safe to warp away, he targeted my pod and *squish*... woke up back home in secure space.
Again, no Pirate talk! No communications etc... at all. Now to me, part of the whole pirate experience is to roleplay a pirate's behavior to some extent. If I were a pirate, I would find the whole "Yarrr, gimme your booty" and "Money or loose yer ship" talk quite fun to do and, depending on your target's personality, it's more of an experience for the victim if he gets to interact with the pirate on some level, even if it doesn't really change the overall outcome. I know everyone has their own take on the pirate life and how they wish to roleplay. I am not saying the two pirates (if that's what they were) were wrong in anyway, it must be their play style, but I'm hoping there are pirates out there who do make the effort to make things a little more interesting for us!
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say... I know I am making a huge assumption that they were indeed pirates... they may not have been and were simply predators looking for kills, loot etc. I guess I made myself expect something that doesn't happen, or my view simply isn't correct due to a lack of experience (I am still not even a month old, character wise ) but I thought pirates would have been.. a little more.. piratey?
Well, two encounters in a month can hardly be an accurate portrayal of pirate life, roleplay, variations etc... I know... Perhaps the fact they exhibited no form of pirate behavior (of the kind I am describing) in itself demonstrates they weren't pirates at all.
Maybe I'll be a pirate one day. But I'm gonna go "Yarrrrr!" an awful lot...
It all comes down to one simpe thing: _EVERY_ kill you make is isk gained. And removing that poor guy who's ship you just turned it to space dust from local is a fast and quick way of not needing to hear the "ill come back and keel u with me vber omgwtfzor hax sploit ship" or "my friends will omgwtfpwn j00 in they eye" talk. It's really that simple.
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Ikusa
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:05:00 -
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i personaly try to pirate talk when i gank some i dont ransome tho i just like killing people just ill convo them hey whats up ya ahh nice ship you have ya well bye *pods em* How ever if they offer to pay i take it and let them go it wasnt a ransome tho a ransome is a demand them paying me off is no diffrent then a merc contract. well only thing diffrent is im being payed NOT TO kill them
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Adama Caprica
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Adama Caprica on 27/05/2006 00:35:25
Epsilon 1:
I never fit wcs... we don't all use the same tactics (or in may case, tactics in general) 
Ikusa:
lol.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Adama Caprica
Edited by: Adama Caprica on 27/05/2006 00:35:25
Epsilon 1:
I never fit wcs... we don't all use the same tactics (or in may case, tactics in general)
Ikusa:
lol.
Maybe, but when you loose 3 bs kills in a row because they had 5 wcs fitted while NPCing 1j from high sec you wont be in the mood to even open a convo with your next victim
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Bunneh Gurl
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine
What I'm trying to say is that it's possible to roleplay a pirate without going "Yarrr!" and swigging rum. Because I'm sure you understand that real pirates don't do that anymore (and personally I find it doubtful that they ever did, but maybe I'm wrong).
Rum was issued before all major engagements at sea for hundreds of years and even during the great battles of World War 1 the troops were issued with rum. Probably made being cut in half by a machine gun somewhat more bearable. Up until 1970 the Royal navy issued a daily tot of rum, and during Nelsons time, all seamen got a half pint of full proof rum and a gallon of beer A DAY! The rum was diluted 2 to 1 with water to make grog, and the amount was issued twice a day.
It was also for hundreds of years the main export for a lot of the West Indies, the Royal Navy even having a West Indies fleet to protect the rum producing islands.
I think that we can safely say that there was indeed a fair amount of rum swigging by pirates, and after about 2 pints of the stuff all you can normally say is YARRRR!
Here endeth the history lesson. Carry on.
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:58:00 -
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Glad that's cleared up. I did say I might be wrong. And my point about modern pirates still stands.
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Locutus ofBorg
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Posted - 2006.05.27 04:20:00 -
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most of the time if you go into local and start to ransom the poor chap you are pounding away at, warps away and laughs at you in local. I dont take any chances of possible targets getting away so i just go straight for the kill and hope that he doesnt get an SOS off into local b4 he wakes up in Jita.
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Nahia Senne
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Posted - 2006.05.27 04:43:00 -
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only way someone will get a ransom from me is if they dont shoot back and if they open the convo themselves.
sometimes, i might decide to ransom the pod, if ship was fitted with tech2 
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.05.27 07:10:00 -
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What you need to understand is that not everyone has the temperament, intellect, social skills, awareness, interest, opportunity or what have you to actually talk at any time. EvE is played over a widely diverse player base after all, and you might meet any end of that spectrum.
What it boils down to, is most communication occurs game mechanically. They enter local, they fly their ships, they show on scanner, they hunt you, you bait them - things happen. As the story gets more interesting than, you'll quickly notice alot more conversation going on.
Lots of interesting storys unfold once you're on the ball. Thats really the interesting part about low security space - the detective work, the convoing and how it eventually all unravels explosively.
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Kahor
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Posted - 2006.05.27 09:01:00 -
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I just open convo at the beginning of the fight, by the time they are onto hull, if they haven't accepted it they are toast...of couse that bring for some kind of not so funny situation since everyone is stabbed, they just warp off, often right after my picky ransom line... ^^.
An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
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Milo Deadstar
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Posted - 2006.05.27 11:38:00 -
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yarr, bring ye boat n wenches to metro, Veto will show ye piracy is alive an well 
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Irinecus
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Posted - 2006.05.27 12:03:00 -
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I'd imagine a space pirate wouldn't talk in olden day slang, but future slang.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.27 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Epsilon 1 on 27/05/2006 12:49:30
Originally by: Irinecus
I'd imagine a space pirate wouldn't talk in olden day slang, but future slang.
Quote:
\o transfer 50m. to my account
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Lakedaimon
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Posted - 2006.05.27 16:28:00 -
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Quote:
t all comes down to one simpe thing: _EVERY_ kill you make is isk gained.
Wait how do you gain ISK from killing someone who has no bounty on his head and who is in a shuttle?
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Na'Thuul
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Posted - 2006.05.27 17:40:00 -
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you'd be suprised to see how many valuable small items are moved in shuttles...
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.05.28 02:34:00 -
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hmmmmmm, shutles....
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:11:00 -
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its not good pr to enter system, scream yarrr, say i want your booty,shwag,
and hope they dont log ss or dock.
its good after u have there pod scrambled to smack talk thou. makes them give u more money and you get a sec increase.
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cfcFodderJr
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:35:00 -
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You know, I've always enjoyed a polite pirate. Even one that seem uncommunicative may not be, in many cases- go ahead, and contact that pirate. Ask them why they attacked you (politely of course), how they did it, what you enjoyed about it, etc... In other words, the pirate you just interacted with is a person too, who enjoys playing EVE as much as you- just never forget that.
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Cecil Montague
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Posted - 2006.05.28 10:39:00 -
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I seem to remember a pirate corp or two that actually had a form you could fill out stating what you liked and disliked about your recent experience.
Now that's dedicated customer service.
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