EVE Search - Competitive Armor Incursions are BACK

All Channels

Missions & Complexes

Competitive Armor Incursions are BACK

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Keith Planck Rolled Out 777	Posted - 2014.05.13 02:17:00 - [1] - Quote Disclaimer: Before yall start crying too hard, these are overtanked fit's I'm throwing out for proof of concept, better or cheaper version can of course be made. Also we totally did this and it totally worked just fine and was awesome for VANGUARD, HQs need mwds and "effort" so whatever. ON TO THE INSANITY have some fits [Paladin, Example Logi Mini-Archon Incursion] Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Large Remote Armor Repairer II Bastion Module I Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II [Machariel, Example Armor Incursion] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Centum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L [Empty High slot] Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I [Empty Rig slot] So how this work you might ask? Same was as all other vanguard sites, jump in, press F1. Paladin will keep whatever you want alive, it's got the rep power of 2 guardians and even more local tank and so much cap buffer you would need a Geddon to neut it out. Advantages -Boss as ** -That's a ***** logistics Paladin -If you pimp the armor resistances into A types you get basically the same slot layout as shield ships, also since the TE nerf, scripted TCs are far supioror. Disadvantages -No scimitar tracking links -Requires boosts -No vargurs aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 777	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:41:00 - [2] - Quote PopplerRo wrote: Keith Planck wrote: Why do this instead of shield you might ask? 1. Mini-Archon 2. Only 1 logi means more DPS ships 3. Single logi shield vanguards require RRs on the battleships and are generally a lot more ~effort 4. While shield does only require 1 mid and 1 rigslot to tank (pithum invuln and a t1 rig) armor (with the same amount of isk) requires 2 lows and a rig slot. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, you already can fit 4 damage mods and a TE, along with ALL of your midslots dedicated to sebos, target painters, tracking computers, or whatever else your heart desires. 1. ... 2. Some groups already do this, and a nestor would be more effective even being able to provide better dps through drone assist, 3.Not really, 4.Armour can also do a 2slot tank comfortably, with only one or two groups who actually do proper armour fittings. p.s. It's nice to see you back dabbling at trying to min-max sites :) I like how I lowball everything and everyone's complaint is that I didn't roll it low enough xD aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 777	Posted - 2014.05.13 17:53:00 - [3] - Quote FunGu Arsten wrote: How is this competitive? You have better items to use- more effective and lets be honnest you're risking your fleets survivabiliy by using really short range reps from this immobile paladin logi.. -Put armor bots on a logi/ they hardly tae hits -Its only competitive when your logi is a luxury-safety net... -Have 2boosters - vargurs can also solo tank vgs anyway // i run paladins in vgs- 2tank slots+2armor rigs tank ncos perfectly( the other sites dont even touch armor...) and that still overtanked imo... - put more bling on the fits, then you might end up being competitive..just my advice. Edit, where can i join.. I love incursion runners so much. aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 784	Posted - 2014.05.20 02:21:00 - [4] - Quote Your website makes my eyes bleed. aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 784	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:55:00 - [5] - Quote Lunkwill Khashour wrote: Paikis wrote: Can anyone come up with a single legitimate disadvantage to using armour? As others have said: - TDF ships are overtanked and there is no 'well known' high-level armor channel - A pimp shield tank uses less slots than a pimp armor tank - Armor tanking requires more buffer due to rep at end of cycle - Shield fleet has better mobility - For all Marauder fleets, the problem get's worse due to deadspace tank difference - Shield fleets have more implant options (no slaves needed) Armor fleets might have an edge by using highly pimped Nestors powered by Talisman Paladins but this would require lots of isk and time to test and tune. -This is True -Wrong, you can get an armor tank down to 1 rig 1 low if you spend the same amount of isk as people do on invulns -Most ships have more buffer due to most ships having more armor and also shield, the only exception is the nightmare -Not true, an armor ship that isn't using a plate is just as fast as a shield ship -Except the paladins naturally much stronger at armor tanking, deadspace armor paladin can tank more then a deadspace shield vargur -Who said armor ships require slaves? "but this would require lots of isk and time to test and tune" Like a bunch of rail vindicators and 1400 machariels running around with Pithum-a invulns and no buffer? How long do you think it took for the current methods of during incrusions to develop? aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 784	Posted - 2014.05.22 03:22:00 - [6] - Quote I bet you guys have 2 CCCs on your paladins xD And don't have 3 reps aka Pony Lord Planck
Keith Planck Rolled Out 792	Posted - 2014.05.24 03:00:00 - [7] - Quote Sentenced 1989 wrote: Numba2 Special wrote: My apologies, I didn't mean to come off as criticizing your incursion group. My intent was to refute the claim that a Paladin can mount a (local) tank that is comparable to a Vargur's in size and cost, both in terms of ISK and the number of slots dedicated to tank. To be honest, your group sounds like a lot of fun No need for apologies, just saying what we do and why :D And yea, paladin will never be able to match vargur tank, not by using same number of slot and not even by using same amount of ISK Paladins are actually better for alot of dangerous pve content like wormholes and lowsec, cause you can fully T2 fit them and get way more damage and cap stability while hitting that glorious 2k tank that most sites require. aka Pony Lord Planck

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.