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Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 09:57:00 - [1] Hello. I would like to know what am I allowed to do until it becomes not allowed to do. E.g. griefing, whatever. I am thinking of operating at an IGSI (It Gallentean Shoot It) policy that does not descriminate a 5 minute old player nor a 2 years old player. I.e. I can go suiciding at newb corps in Oursaleart or do random war dec on player corps between 0.1 to 1.0. in Gallentean space. Thank you. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Oron	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:06:00 - [2] Welcome in eve :) Shooting at ppl in eve is part of the game, we call that pvp You can shoot at people evrywhere - but must carry the consequence: If you shoot somebody in systems with lower sec rating then 0.5. You get a sec-rating hit and you need to stay away from gates for ~15min. If you shoot somebody at gates or stations - sentrys will try to kill ya. You can also shoot ppl in heigh sec (0.5->1.0) but then you will punished by concorde and take a heigh secrating hit. You must take the punishment - avoiding concorde is an exploid. In no sec regions you are free to do what you like - as long as you manage to stay alife. The ppl you shoot have the right to kill you anywhere for a period of time (mouse over the Aggression Timer caption upper left) If your sec rating dropt below -5 you can be shoot evrywhere from evryppl without concord intervention. happy terroristing. Need drugs?
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:09:00 - [3] You may get very unpopular very fast, but I think you are allowed to do pretty much anything unless it is an exploit or gratuitous harassment to a single player or small group. Still, I think getting the **** shot out of them would be quite a good introduction to eve for noobs: theyll learn what eve means while not really losing anything
Avon	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:09:00 - [4] The TOS does not allow roleplaying to be used as an excuse for griefing. Ganking new players in starter systems WILL get you in to trouble. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
FooB2	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:11:00 - [5] .....and the hatemail will be priceless www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Avon The TOS does not allow roleplaying to be used as an excuse for griefing. Ganking new players in starter systems WILL get you in to trouble. As far as I understand griefing, it means repetitively killing or making life difficult for the same person. Like in killing an elf, resurrecting it then kill again. Repeat until satisfied. If I just kill and forget and it happens that I am passing by starter systems, will it still get me in trouble? A different kind of grief I think is some people give out free stuff in can and kill newbs that loot them. I am not doing this though but just using it as an example. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Kel Shek	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:20:00 - [7] a while back I heard the fallout from a bunch of people roleplaying... apparently they were fighting for intaki freedom or some such nonsense. ... and apparently they managed to somehow kill a retreiver of some random person. ... with a squad of 5 incursus, or something like that. how the hell they managed to take down a retreiver in 1.0, with 5 incursus.... (that seems like it'd be hard to me....) aside, their victim was rather annoyed. apparently he hadn't insured or anything either.... :\ ~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake
Cotton Tail	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:21:00 - [8] Just wait for factional wars, I don't expect to see much peace between Gallentes and Caldari . Shame we're going to have to wait ages for it...
Tarsha Listur	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Tarsha Listur on 28/05/2006 10:22:21 you may want to have a chat with camar from stormriders jenny, they operate as terrorists against the amarr and have been fairly sucessful. See what advice he has to offer
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Cotton Tail Just wait for factional wars, I don't expect to see much peace between Gallentes and Caldari . Shame we're going to have to wait ages for it... Cant wait any longer. Every day more Gallenteans are born. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Tarsha Listur Edited by: Tarsha Listur on 28/05/2006 10:22:21 you may want to have a chat with camar from stormriders jenny, they operate as terrorists against the amarr and have been fairly sucessful. See what advice he has to offer Thank you. Still it would be good to know on forums in black and white what I am allowed and not allowed to do. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:29:00 - [12] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/05/2006 10:31:46 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Thank you. Still it would be good to know on forums in black and white what I am allowed and not allowed to do. Suiciding people to make them lose stuff they have worked hard to get is pretty lame actually. It might be fun for you, but imagine the newbie that worked for a week to get his hauler, then having it destroyed by someone who wont get any penalties for it. Also in space that is supposed to be safe, so they might not get insurance. You might even make them quit eve. Not sure you want to be that kind of player. I think its allowed looking strictly at the rules though. Its not griefing as i understand it. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Avon	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:30:00 - [13] Originally by: From the TOS You may not use ôrole-playingö as an excuse to violate these rules. While EVE Online is a persistent world, fantasy role-playing game, the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior. Role-playing is encouraged, but not at the expense of other player. You may not create or participate in a corporation or group that habitually violates this policy. Read in to that what you will. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:36:00 - [14] can i tho kil all gallente plz ???? thx Exekias for cool sig join soar angelic
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:38:00 - [15] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/05/2006 10:40:36 Originally by: Avon Originally by: From the TOS You may not use ôrole-playingö as an excuse to violate these rules. While EVE Online is a persistent world, fantasy role-playing game, the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior. Role-playing is encouraged, but not at the expense of other player. You may not create or participate in a corporation or group that habitually violates this policy. Read in to that what you will. Role-playing is encouraged? When did that happen? Anyway, getting back on topic... Jenny, how about declaring on corps operating in Caldari space with lots Galleteans in them or with high Gallente standings? Sort of a Caldari space for the Caldari operation. Oh, and refer to yourself as a nationalist rather than a terrorist. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Oron	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:43:00 - [16] Edited by: Oron on 28/05/2006 10:44:28 Originally by: From the TOS ...the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior... Shooting ppl in Eve is not an anti-social behavior. If you swear them to hell whithout the knowledge that this guy rollplay with you it is. But i would not realy hunt in the starter systems, realy let them do the first 10 stepps in eve in peace :o Quote: Oh, and refer to yourself as a nationalist rather than a terrorist. Yea! Good advice - works fantastic in RL Need drugs?
Benefactor	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:45:00 - [17] I thought the purpose of ganking people who can ill-afford it was to get your giggles and your jollies.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Oron Edited by: Oron on 28/05/2006 10:44:28 Originally by: From the TOS ...the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior... Shooting ppl in Eve is not an anti-social behavior. If you swear them to hell whithout the knowledge that this guy rollplay with you it is. But i would not realy hunt in the starter systems, realy let them do the first 10 stepps in eve in peace :o Quote: Oh, and refer to yourself as a nationalist rather than a terrorist. Yea! Good advice - works fantastic in RL Collateral damage or in the line of fire really. It isnt that the intention of repetitively killing PCs in NPC corps. Think of lottery system. Rodj's idea is also good. But how to find out how many Gallenteans does a corp have? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Benefactor I thought the purpose of ganking people who can ill-afford it was to get your giggles and your jollies. I am not like that... I had my days as a newb before. Lost about 3 months in 1 minute. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:53:00 - [20] Bet you there are a few gallentean RP corps that could do with a re-education.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:54:00 - [21] Originally by: HippoKing Bet you there are a few gallentean RP corps that could do with a re-education. Bunnies? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Benefactor	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:56:00 - [22] Nice edit of "terrorist" to "patriot," by the way.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:58:00 - [23] Originally by: Benefactor Nice edit of "terrorist" to "patriot," by the way. Bush is good at that too.... saying others are terrorists while bombing civilians. --- The Eve Wiki Project
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:09:00 - [24] What's wrong with killing Elves over and over? There's nothing wrong with bombing rookies or older pilots as long as you take the security hit and as long as you're not exploiting. In my experience, grown up slavers make a much better squishy sound when compared to still wet Velator-pilots. But that's up to you to decide. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Stern Maxwell	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:13:00 - [25] Caldari = Capitalism Capitalism rules you! Death to the Gallente! Return Caldari Prime or suffer a fate worse than losing a hauler full of megacyte to a noob ship! ___________________________________________
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:26:00 - [26] Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 28/05/2006 11:26:01 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Benefactor Nice edit of "terrorist" to "patriot," by the way. [/quoteBush is good at that too.... saying others are terrorists while bombing civilians. (A) That's a filthy, unsupportable accusation, and saying that kind of thing is just wrong. (B) What's worse is that you're disrespecting good people who are fighting and dying every day for something they believe in by making accusations like that. (C) Don't bring politics onto the forums, ESPECIALLY in a completely unrelated thread. Anyway, as long as you don't pick any particular people on a regular basis, you should be fine. Except for Gallente RPers, they basically are always going to be a valid target for a Caldari RPer. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Tarsha Listur	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: HippoKing Bet you there are a few gallentean RP corps that could do with a re-education. Bunnies? we arnt a gallentean corp, we are multi national, even have many cladari members
Noriath	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:29:00 - [28] How to roleplay a Caldari patriot: Buy a janitor off the market and put him in a can full of trash. If after 1 hour the trash has not disappeared try to sell him at a profit. If this does not work jettison him and nuke the can.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Noriath How to roleplay a Caldari patriot: Buy a janitor off the market and put him in a can full of trash. If after 1 hour the trash has not disappeared try to sell him at a profit. If this does not work jettison him and nuke the can. No, that is how to play the Gallente caricature of a Caldari patriot. A better description can be found in the last paragraph of this article. ----- Russell T Davies is my master now.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Tarsha Listur Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: HippoKing Bet you there are a few gallentean RP corps that could do with a re-education. Bunnies? we arnt a gallentean corp, we are multi national, even have many cladari members Gallentean sympathisers == Pop. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!

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