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Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:08:00 -
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to make the game more exciting for beginners the only thing the developers need to add are huge battles, they already tested it with the carrier event... they need to make it a given fact that randomly pirate NPC carriers spawn all over the galaxy, high low and nullsec, with this, new players will be able to see bigger fights right from the start and are able to join without much effort
the main reason most of the player come to eve is the big fights, however at the moment those are not accessible, incursions you need to be in a fleet and those fleets lock you out if you are new, nullsec not working either, because there are no big battles every day, at least not for a newb because they are unable to find or attend those
its way to difficult to find one when you are new, too many hurdles, joining corps, incursion channels etc. if you are new, you got no clue where to go, however if their would be frequent CONCORD Broadcasts to let everybody know where a pirate NPC carrier spawns, maybe even a carrier fleet from time to time, people would go there to kill it, you could have a big battle every hour in the game, without much programming done, good for the players to get into the game and have some action
thats all the people want, people want to see those 1000 ships on the grid YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Vadeim Rizen
TYR. Exodus.
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:15:00 -
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feeding people activity is not a good thing. get out, join a corporation, go on roams, find targets, shoot targets. activity breeds activity, and sitting in station waiting for a broadcast about a fake carrier being deployed would only hurt the game. |

Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:17:00 -
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Vadeim Rizen wrote:feeding people activity is not a good thing. get out, join a corporation, go on roams, find targets, shoot targets. activity breeds activity, and sitting in station waiting for a broadcast about a fake carrier being deployed would only hurt the game.
they run missions and rat anyway, its nothing new, just bigger fights to see what the game is about... you missed the point YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

HTC NecoSino
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:28:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:the main reason most of the player come to eve is the big fights
Get out of HS, p!s$ off locals, you'll get your big fights. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:31:00 -
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HTC NecoSino wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the main reason most of the player come to eve is the big fights Get out of HS, p!s$ off locals, you'll get your big fights.
you are not much around are you? there is nothing going on... I'm talking about big fights every hour not every 6 month... maybe you missed the scale I'm talking about... searching for big fights is to look for a needle in a haystack YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:36:00 -
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Why would anyone bother? |

HTC NecoSino
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:44:00 -
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Dude I live in WH space. Do NOT talk to me about the difficulties of finding a fight, especially after the nerf we just got. |

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
761
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:59:00 -
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Awesome! Another "Harry formula" post!
Formula goes thus: 1) Post dumb idea 2) insult anyone who says anything against it 3) goto 2
Seriously though Harry, if you want big fleet fights go and join a corp or alliance that has big fleet fights. It's not that hard. However, experience has taught me that you're not after a solution to your problems, you're after what you want because you want it so I really only expect 2) as usual. |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:19:00 -
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i agree that incursions are a pain in the arse to get into. id like some more group orientated hi-sec content. it doesnt even have to pay anywhere near what incursion runners get.
But random carrier spawns here and there is not going to be the big battles i think ud expect. People see the big fights in the news involving Null sec. Then they join the game and mull about aimlessly in hi-sec, where ppl rarely play together. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |

Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:28:00 -
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Tchulen wrote:Awesome! Another "Harry formula" post!
Formula goes thus: 1) Post dumb idea 2) insult anyone who says anything against it 3) goto 2
Seriously though Harry, if you want big fleet fights go and join a corp or alliance that has big fleet fights. It's not that hard. However, experience has taught me that you're not after a solution to your problems, you're after what you want because you want it so I really only expect 2) as usual.
you don't get the point as usual, and i wont join your mining fleets, this is about fights dude YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:31:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:i agree that incursions are a pain in the arse to get into. id like some more group orientated hi-sec content. it doesnt even have to pay anywhere near what incursion runners get.
But random carrier spawns here and there is not going to be the big battles i think ud expect. People see the big fights in the news involving Null sec. Then they join the game and mull about aimlessly in hi-sec, where ppl rarely play together.
nullsec has no big fights either, I mean not frequent enough not big enough, those carrier fights could be a starter, or for the time waiting until something really big is happening like BR... nullsec is 90% of the time extremely boring YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1490
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:38:00 -
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why? When Incursions have big carriers and mad isks in them, and they dnt start big fights. why would this carrier start big fights?
i am most curious when i think that all major fights are started by someone screwing up...not NPC's lol. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |

Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:44:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:why? When Incursions have big carriers and mad isks in them, and they dnt start big fights. why would this carrier start big fights?
i am most curious when i think that all major fights are started by someone screwing up...not NPC's lol.
with big fights in regards of the carrier event, I mean PVE, 500+ people fighting the NPC carriers
you need to present new players what eve does best, big fights, it does not matter if it is PVE at the start, its just important they see those 500 ships shooting something, they need to get clue about what eve is about... this would just be a starting point
at the moment they login and nothing is happening, they just shoot a rat or do some missions, all other stuff is not accessible, at least not easy enough
the game does not show beginners what it can do, most of them leave, never getting a basic feeling about what the game is able to provide YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:25:00 -
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How is that any different from a big incursion? Rather than running these events with 500 players, why not take the same 500 players and invade ur neighbours? Make them defend their stuff or lose it.
Hi-sec players might show interest in these events. unless of course it somehow leads to PvP, then they'll avoid it like the plague. What do u think incursions would be like if u went suspect for entering a site or shooting an incursion rat? Because thats what ur idea is. Its not going to be like a high profile dev-lead event that took months to plan and is part of the eve back story. They wont be mini-battles for caldari.
if ur bored get some friends, go out and shoot something. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:55:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:why? When Incursions have big carriers and mad isks in them, and they dnt start big fights. why would this carrier start big fights?
i am most curious when i think that all major fights are started by someone screwing up...not NPC's lol. with big fights in regards of the carrier event, I mean PVE, 500+ people fighting the NPC carriers you need to present new players what eve does best, big fights, it does not matter if it is PVE at the start, its just important they see those 500 ships shooting something, they need to get clue about what eve is about... this would just be a starting point at the moment they login and nothing is happening, they just shoot a rat or do some missions, all other stuff is not accessible, at least not easy enough the game does not show beginners what it can do, most of them leave, never getting a basic feeling about what the game is able to provide with those carrier events they get a much better feeling what eve can be, and they could have that with their ibis 1 hour into the game, just to see what its about...
And why would anyone bother? What is in it for them? What is worth the risk of having PL drop 200 carriers on the fleet attacking the NPCs? |

addelee
Hellfire Cult The East India Co.
89
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Posted - 2014.05.14 00:57:00 -
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Few problems I feel.
1) NPC behaviour is very predictable therefore it wouldn't be a huge fight, it would be another HS (or wherever) farming of isk. 2) Killing carriers isn't difficult. They rely a lot of drones,/fighters smart bombs and remote repping so clipping drones and neuting is a tactic. 3) NPC's don't use drones/fighters therefore carriers would need to alter and even if they did, NPC's cheat and would have infinite drones. They don't use smartbombs either. 4) No carriers in HS. This is an important one as it would break HS game mechanics which applies to both NPC's and players alike. 5) In a small fleet of BS's (i.e. 4) you can 3 shot any NPC battleship and take little to no damage. Realistically, a carrier wouldn't be a challenge.
IMO, there are plenty of PVE opportunities for new players (i.e. missions, ghost sites, combat sigs) and for real combat we have lowsec and null. |

Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid
99
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:49:00 -
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so all these 1000 every hour in these big fights with all the capital ships are you going to pay for them? |

Auduin Samson
Do not disturb Sanctuary Pact
172
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Posted - 2014.05.14 04:01:00 -
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You think this would lead to huge fights? It would lead to a group of people in super tanked ships mulling around and making sure absolutely nobody found their carrier spawn before the killed and looted it. Really, there are only two things that lead to big fights in eve:
1. Sov conflicts in null 2. Dev events, and these rarely happen.
If you want bigfights, get out of hisec. No, there aren't multi-thousand ship battles every hour. That's a good thing. Epic fights come from player conflicts due to honor, allegiance, and resources. Trying to cram bigfights down everyone's throat with a derpy rat mechanic would be a cheap trick with no gain for anyone but eve's most dedicated PVE'ers.
Tell me, do big fights happen every time a faction or officer rat spawns? No, because anyone that finds one keeps their trap shut until their loot is safe. Adding fancy rats won't make bigfights. It will make more aggressive carebears. You just lost your ship The tears will fuel my spaceship Go quit Eve again
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.14 04:01:00 -
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It would be pretty cool to have random open incursions that encourage as many people as possible to join the fight. It could have some balancing design to make it so a small group is capable of winning while a giant group won't spoil it by clearing it in a few seconds. Maybe a NPC carrier spawns and as players shoot it, more NPCs show up to defend. The faster it dies, the more ships they bring in for backup, and the more potential loot there is. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
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Posted - 2014.05.14 06:29:00 -
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Go to nullsec, you can find random carrier spawn on a heaven sanctum in truesec systems <0.6 There is no point to create something that is already there.
Summer 2014 - Carrier Split
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
741
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Posted - 2014.05.14 06:36:00 -
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cos Tidi
and grrr goons
Note that there is a carrier to kill in the new player SOE Blood Stained Stars Epic Arc by the way. Disappointingly for a lot of new players its somewhat empty of loot when you do finally kill it. |

Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
763
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:28:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Tchulen wrote:Awesome! Another "Harry formula" post!
Formula goes thus: 1) Post dumb idea 2) insult anyone who says anything against it 3) goto 2
Seriously though Harry, if you want big fleet fights go and join a corp or alliance that has big fleet fights. It's not that hard. However, experience has taught me that you're not after a solution to your problems, you're after what you want because you want it so I really only expect 2) as usual. you don't get the point as usual, and i wont join your mining fleets, this is about fights dude
Ah, you never cease to fulfil your number 2 role, Harry. Dumb attempts at insults. Awesome! I fly in large fleets that kill cap ships quite a bit when I have time to play. I can't remember the last time I was in a mining fleet.
Harry Forever wrote:with big fights in regards of the carrier event, I mean PVE, 500+ people fighting the NPC carriers I take it you've never actually fought a carrier then? 500 people shooting a carrier wouldn't be a fight. It would be over in seconds.
Harry Forever wrote:nullsec has no big fights either And another statement that proves you know nothing about the subject you're talking about.
I just love these car-crash Harry threads. :) |

shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins Cult of War
9
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:01:00 -
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Just Want to point this out Large fight Are only epic becuase they dont happen all the time if you were able to get in to a fight with 1k+ players every 6hour or so then large fight will begin to be something no one give a f about becuase they Are so comment |

Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
406
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:21:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:cos Tidi
and grrr goons
Note that there is a carrier to kill in the new player SOE Blood Stained Stars Epic Arc by the way. Disappointingly for a lot of new players its somewhat empty of loot when you do finally kill it.
It could at least drop 100mil , that's nothing ... but priceless for newbies. Summer 2014 - Carrier Split
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:44:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:How is that any different from a big incursion? Rather than running these events with 500 players, why not take the same 500 players and invade ur neighbours? Make them defend their stuff or lose it.
Hi-sec players might show interest in these events. unless of course it somehow leads to PvP, then they'll avoid it like the plague. What do u think incursions would be like if u went suspect for entering a site or shooting an incursion rat? Because thats what ur idea is. Its not going to be like a high profile dev-lead event that took months to plan and is part of the eve back story. They wont be mini-battles for caldari.
if ur bored get some friends, go out and shoot something.
because those 500 players don't have to be in a fleet, therefore its much easier to join the fight... it has nothing to do with going suspect, you ever killed a rat and did go suspect? guess not... YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
1020
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:59:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:i agree that incursions are a pain in the arse to get into. id like some more group orientated hi-sec content. it doesnt even have to pay anywhere near what incursion runners get.
But random carrier spawns here and there is not going to be the big battles i think ud expect. People see the big fights in the news involving Null sec. Then they join the game and mull about aimlessly in hi-sec, where ppl rarely play together. nullsec has no big fights either, I mean not frequent enough not big enough, those carrier fights could be a starter, or for the time waiting until something really big is happening like BR... nullsec is 90% of the time extremely boring you need to be able to login and have something going on, however most of the time nothing is happening... frequent npc carrier events would change that and bring people together, out of that the rest of the game could evolve much better I think
We had a 4 hour fight with about 350 pilots only a few jumps away from where you are currently living ( assuming you are still in geminate?) on sunday. We had similar ones but not as long but with 200 or so pilots several times in the last week. We arrange these fights by hitting xxdeath /pets assets and then turning up to timers that suit us. They are far bigger than us so it is tricky to win and provides us with great entertainment even when we lose. We also find many smaller fights every day. Often within a few jumps of where you are cloaked currently. Have you considered afk cloaking in BWF? it is a few jumps from you and people visit throughout the day looking for fights. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |

Harry Forever
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:21:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:i agree that incursions are a pain in the arse to get into. id like some more group orientated hi-sec content. it doesnt even have to pay anywhere near what incursion runners get.
But random carrier spawns here and there is not going to be the big battles i think ud expect. People see the big fights in the news involving Null sec. Then they join the game and mull about aimlessly in hi-sec, where ppl rarely play together. nullsec has no big fights either, I mean not frequent enough not big enough, those carrier fights could be a starter, or for the time waiting until something really big is happening like BR... nullsec is 90% of the time extremely boring you need to be able to login and have something going on, however most of the time nothing is happening... frequent npc carrier events would change that and bring people together, out of that the rest of the game could evolve much better I think We had a 4 hour fight with about 350 pilots only a few jumps away from where you are currently living ( assuming you are still in geminate?) on sunday. We had similar ones but not as long but with 200 or so pilots several times in the last week. We arrange these fights by hitting xxdeath /pets assets and then turning up to timers that suit us. They are far bigger than us so it is tricky to win and provides us with great entertainment even when we lose. We also find many smaller fights every day. Often within a few jumps of where you are cloaked currently. Have you considered afk cloaking in BWF? it is a few jumps from you and people visit throughout the day looking for fights.
at the moment I'm ratting until my tengu is leveled up, after that i most probably will go back to deklein killing goon ishtars... i have seen you guys camping with falcon/sabre, also noticed some fights going on in BWF when passing buy...
at the end I see you guys waiting long hours for a kill as well, many times... thats not what I'm suggesting here... there is enough waiting in the game, actually too much of it, my suggestion would shorten this up, by killing some bigger NPC rats from time to time... It sure would not hurt other playstyles, it even would assure that more people move around system in bigger fleets and stuff YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Itrala
Tycoon Innovations
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:16:00 -
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Big fight equals to TIDI which CCP cannot provide ressources for ALL the time.
I went to those carrier event and I had a fight or 2 in 1000+ player when we got hotdrop by a carrier blob (we even had carriers) but it was awesome because it is not everyday you get those fights.
If you were to get carrier kill every hour. I would get bored quickly and probably a lot of other people as well. They are looking for small fight that can escalate into BR-5RB or Asakai. But they are not looking to get HS free carrier kill (we saw that with the Super of the Caldari navy)
I think that we need to get the incursion opened to new players with a cruiser en below spawn only. It would give newbies with a fun way to get a group and still participate into those incursions until they are with the right skills to pilot a Vindicator or a Machariel or a Logistic ship. They would be able to still do something fun at their level.
Big fight is not the solution.
Want it ? Go null sec and train for a capital ship. Then wait. Eve is all about waiting for the right oportunities.... |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2653
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:17:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:How is that any different from a big incursion? Rather than running these events with 500 players, why not take the same 500 players and invade ur neighbours? Make them defend their stuff or lose it.
Hi-sec players might show interest in these events. unless of course it somehow leads to PvP, then they'll avoid it like the plague. What do u think incursions would be like if u went suspect for entering a site or shooting an incursion rat? Because thats what ur idea is. Its not going to be like a high profile dev-lead event that took months to plan and is part of the eve back story. They wont be mini-battles for caldari.
if ur bored get some friends, go out and shoot something. because those 500 players don't have to be in a fleet, therefore its much easier to join the fight... it has nothing to do with going suspect, you ever killed a rat and did go suspect? guess not... you also don't seem to understand that I'm grown up, joining a fleet or a corp with you kids is something impossible for me... there needs to be more ways to join fights without joining your coms and stuff, honestly you guys would anoy the **** out of me most of the gamers out there are like me, they just won't tell you
If five hundred randoms show up to attack some NPCs in dangerous space with no co-ordination whatsoever, what do you think is going to happen to them when some remotely co-ordinated PVP group shows up? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:04:00 -
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Itrala wrote:Big fight equals to TIDI which CCP cannot provide ressources for ALL the time.
I went to those carrier event and I had a fight or 2 in 1000+ player when we got hotdrop by a carrier blob (we even had carriers) but it was awesome because it is not everyday you get those fights.
If you were to get carrier kill every hour. I would get bored quickly and probably a lot of other people as well. They are looking for small fight that can escalate into BR-5RB or Asakai. But they are not looking to get HS free carrier kill (we saw that with the Super of the Caldari navy)
I think that we need to get the incursion opened to new players with a cruiser en below spawn only. It would give newbies with a fun way to get a group and still participate into those incursions until they are with the right skills to pilot a Vindicator or a Machariel or a Logistic ship. They would be able to still do something fun at their level.
Big fight is not the solution.
Want it ? Go null sec and train for a capital ship. Then wait. Eve is all about waiting for the right oportunities....
they invented TIDI to make it possible, your comment does not make sense... you also don't understand that this is not about training for capital ships, its a possibility for newbs to see what the game can provide... can you fly a capital ship at the start? uhm nope... you kind of missed the topic here, please read through it again to assure you understand exactly what I'm talking about YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2014.05.14 22:07:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:How is that any different from a big incursion? Rather than running these events with 500 players, why not take the same 500 players and invade ur neighbours? Make them defend their stuff or lose it.
Hi-sec players might show interest in these events. unless of course it somehow leads to PvP, then they'll avoid it like the plague. What do u think incursions would be like if u went suspect for entering a site or shooting an incursion rat? Because thats what ur idea is. Its not going to be like a high profile dev-lead event that took months to plan and is part of the eve back story. They wont be mini-battles for caldari.
if ur bored get some friends, go out and shoot something. because those 500 players don't have to be in a fleet, therefore its much easier to join the fight... it has nothing to do with going suspect, you ever killed a rat and did go suspect? guess not... you also don't seem to understand that I'm grown up, joining a fleet or a corp with you kids is something impossible for me... there needs to be more ways to join fights without joining your coms and stuff, honestly you guys would anoy the **** out of me most of the gamers out there are like me, they just won't tell you If five hundred randoms show up to attack some NPCs in dangerous space with no co-ordination whatsoever, what do you think is going to happen to them when some remotely co-ordinated PVP group shows up?
tactical narcotics fly with no co-ordination every day, why would you be bothered by that? YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2655
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Posted - 2014.05.14 23:05:00 -
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Clearly ganking AFK ratters gives you a wonderful insight into these things.
Now, what do your five hundred people who aren't even fleeted, much less co-ordinated do when Rooks and Kings, Pandemic Legion or one of the other groups who are actually good at the game show up with an actual fleet? |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
1336
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Posted - 2014.05.15 04:21:00 -
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...aaand on that note I'm gonna unsub from this thread Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1073
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:40:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Clearly ganking AFK ratters gives you a wonderful insight into these things.
Now, what do your five hundred people who aren't even fleeted, much less co-ordinated do when Rooks and Kings, Pandemic Legion or one of the other groups who are actually good at the game show up with an actual fleet?
This is about free for all fights, not everybody needs the safety of a fleet to have fun... not even in bigger fights YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1073
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:49:00 -
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shimiku wrote:Just Want to point this out Large fight Are only epic becuase they dont happen all the time if you were able to get in to a fight with 1k+ players every 6hour or so then large fight will begin to be something no one give a f about becuase they Are so comment
have you ever been addicted to something? if you are you want more, and more, and more... however your comment indicates you just don't care about big fights at all... YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
511
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:55:00 -
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I really don't see this working the way you expect it to.
At best an organised group would pop and loot the NPC before anyone else got to it and at worst I suspect it would probably be used as a lure that would allow organised groups to harvest easy kills. Either way I doubt it would do much to aid new player retention. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2014.05.15 10:22:00 -
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Samillian wrote:I really don't see this working the way you expect it to.
At best an organised group would pop and loot the NPC before anyone else got to it and at worst I suspect it would probably be used as a lure that would allow organised groups to harvest easy kills. Either way I doubt it would do much to aid new player retention.
they tested it already, and it did work like intended YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
511
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Posted - 2014.05.15 10:50:00 -
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Occasional one-offs a tested mechanic do not make.
Make it a regular occurrence and it will be exploited to the its maximum potential be it for profit or tears. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
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