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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.05.31 08:34:00 -
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Oh I agree, its good changes for the Jaguar. I just an old timer stuck on its old role :) Now its more beefy, which is all good. - Rise.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.05.31 08:34:00 -
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My new Jagabond will be getting some jammers, and some cap mods. Or some variety thereof. Or possibly getting shieldtanked. Will have to see what it can fit and run.
Oooooh.
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Knoppaz
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Posted - 2006.05.31 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty O'Shay
Originally by: Phelan Boots Vaga-Jag
Not catchy enough, I propose the "Jagubond"
I'd prefer Vaguar
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Oh I agree, its good changes for the Jaguar. I just an old timer stuck on its old role :) Now its more beefy, which is all good.
to be honest, you really shouldn't have that much trouble hitting with 150mms while in orbit
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Ysolde Xen
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:53:00 -
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A 4th midslot and the Jag can shield tank like a dream. You only need 1 passive kinetic shield amp to plug that 1 minor hole (if you call 40% a hole) in the resistances and yer laughing. Or it can tackle very well using a backup armour tank. I have to say I am honestly surprised that it got the 4th mid slot but I sure as hell am not complaining! I can always use it to pop a Tracking Computer in
A little bit of speed would have been nice but I'm very glad it's ability to be the Minmatar's artillery platform hasn't been nuked. It can be either a Jagabond/Vaguar or it can be a mini-stiletto or it can even attempt a snipe with some Tremor and some 280IIs. Rah for our flexible friend
*self-confessed Jaguar nut*
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Guma
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:10:00 -
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No Speed Bonus for the Jag
So EvE never Changes, i keep the Claw! |
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Oh I agree, its good changes for the Jaguar. I just an old timer stuck on its old role :) Now its more beefy, which is all good.
to be honest, you really shouldn't have that much trouble hitting with 150mms while in orbit
I used to tackle with Arty :) You need level 5 assault frig tho :/ - Rise.
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zoturi
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:15:00 -
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how about 2x extender, a mwd and a scrambler?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Oh I agree, its good changes for the Jaguar. I just an old timer stuck on its old role :) Now its more beefy, which is all good.
to be honest, you really shouldn't have that much trouble hitting with 150mms while in orbit
I used to tackle with Arty :) You need level 5 assault frig tho :/
down with the AC users!
Howitzers is the way to go!
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Etherios
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
down with the AC users!
Howitzers is the way to go!
Yes ffs i want my Sniping wolf back
280II + tremor + 1 Enh Tracking II = 71k max gun range FTW...
Now i have no idea...
I like the Jag 4th med tho really makes it a hard tackler
Auto+ rockets / abii + shield extender + 2 scramblers / pdu or something?
its pretty desent in fast gangs for keeping the victim long enuf
True sight isn't given to all that look for it.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:18:00 -
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web, scram, mwd, shield booster/extender oO
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion web, scram, mwd, shield booster/extender oO
yep :)
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Kard Fater
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:20:00 -
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IMHO the new Jaguar = dualweb+scrambler. All hail THE closerange ceptorkiller.
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Etherios
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kard Fater IMHO the new Jaguar = dualweb+scrambler. All hail THE closerange ceptorkiller.
Can it do that much damage so it will kill the ceptors before it dies? i mean can the jag with 2 webs + scrambler + mwd/ab or shield boost/extender, kill a taranis before it melts ?
3 200mm II autos + a rocket II has enuf punch?
True sight isn't given to all that look for it.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Etherios
Originally by: Kard Fater IMHO the new Jaguar = dualweb+scrambler. All hail THE closerange ceptorkiller.
Can it do that much damage so it will kill the ceptors before it dies? i mean can the jag with 2 webs + scrambler + mwd/ab or shield boost/extender, kill a taranis before it melts ?
3 200mm II autos + a rocket II has enuf punch?
you can use artillery on it with those double webs
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Etherios
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
you can use artillery on it with those double webs
Man u will get 2-3 hits ONLY before u die Arty and close range BAD. Especially vs taranis and claws...
True sight isn't given to all that look for it.
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Kard Fater
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kard Fater on 31/05/2006 13:12:01
Originally by: Etherios
Man u will get 2-3 hits ONLY before u die Arty and close range BAD. Especially vs taranis and claws...
Small artillery is deadly at even closerange IF the target is nearly still + has a big sig. May I sincerely recommend to try a Punisher with 3xT2_280s, 2xweb, and a 400plating with repairer. Stir it together with a Taranis or a Claw, and watch which fries first.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Etherios
Originally by: Sarmaul
you can use artillery on it with those double webs
Man u will get 2-3 hits ONLY before u die Arty and close range BAD. Especially vs taranis and claws...
and how the hell is a ranis and claw going to get into serious close range when it has 2 webs on it? they will be practically stationary (99% speed reduction with the 2 webs) and probably have the mwd on to try and get closer (so they have the sig radius of a cruiser) and will be low on cap from running that mwd and their own tackling gear.
it's not a fool-proof solution, but then again nothing in EVE really is.
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:20:00 -
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Gentlemen *Raises Glass* To the Jagabond.
The jag now has serious pontential, and thats awesome .
Personally im going to be looking towards a med extender + small boost combination, but we'll see how it goes.
<Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head |
Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.05.31 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Phelan Lore on 31/05/2006 19:52:04 So is the Jag getting a capacitor boost at all? It has absolutely horrid cap. I'd like to be able to put some stuff in those mids and be able to run them without filling my lows with cap relays.
It has the worst cap of any assault frig (or inty I think) and the exact same cap as the Rifter.
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2006.05.31 20:26:00 -
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Anyone get the feeling they forgot which bonus to put on which AF, in that the wolf was better for optimal range and the jag better for falloff? Perhaps when 4th boni come out that's what will happen.
Raptor and Ares Fix |
Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.06.01 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Phelan Lore on 01/06/2006 00:05:53
Originally by: Kai Lae Anyone get the feeling they forgot which bonus to put on which AF, in that the wolf was better for optimal range and the jag better for falloff? Perhaps when 4th boni come out that's what will happen.
Thrasher is still a better arty platform. Even if you put 3 gyros on the new wolf, thrasher does more damage (burst and DoT) with uber tracking. At least with the falloff bonus the wolf is the end all of small ACs.
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Go Team
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Posted - 2006.06.02 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Knoppaz
I'd prefer Vaguar
/signed
Yeah Baby!
Won't tell you what I found in my basement, if I had one :( - Cortes My other sig?? GIMME!!! -GT |
OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.06.02 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: OrangeAfroMan on 02/06/2006 23:58:39
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Blind Man
Originally by: Blind Man what happend to velocity
qft
tux (correctly) realised trying to turn assault frigs into interceptors is generally a Bad Idea.
Yep, the damage output of the Jag without the extra damage bonus is way sub-par, it is literally the same as a Rifter.
And if you cant tell from my sig, I am extremely pleased with the Jag and Wolf changes. :)
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Phelan Lore
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Posted - 2006.06.03 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Go Team
Originally by: Knoppaz
I'd prefer Vaguar
/signed
Yeah Baby!
Or if you choose to forgo the tank and fit ewar... Jagetto
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2006.06.03 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Blind Man whats the point of 4 mids if its not for a heavy tackling frig
Ask all the Harpy pilots..
harpy is a shield tank, jag, well, i just know im not uselessly shield tanking a frig
ppl tank frigates? /emote smiles -- Talking in circles is more dizzying than walking in them... tralala
P.S. WHERE'S THE MINMATAR EVENT?
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