If it wrecks the game when 3rd party sites are doing it then how is it not still wrecking the game when CCP does it?

Buying ISK legally or buying it through 3rd party is still buying ISK.

Shame on CCP for trying to drag their players into their failing attempt at misdirection. As far as we are concerned, the end result is the same. If it wrecks the game when 3rd party sites are doing it then how is it not still wrecking the game when CCP does it?

By all means, CCP, knock yourself out in your battle against 3rd party RMT. But until you stop doing the same thing, expect nothing but disdain from me for your blatantly hypocritical way of doing it. All I see is you trying to whip us up into a frenzy to help you secure your bottom line. Not to help the game.

Get back to me when you are ready to remove all RMT from the game. Not just 3rd party RMT.

Mr Epeen

I find it a bit daunting that a regular player who decides to bot for ISK is treated like he's vermin; banned without warning and spat on by the CCP staff.

Meanwhile we have members of the community who have engaged in hundreds -yes, hundreds- of acts of cyberbullying and CCP responds by simply muting them or sending a warning message.

I appreciate the fight against the bots and RMTers, but when you treat botters worse than you treat cyberbullies it creates a scenario where players like myself don't want to give you a dime of their money. And so we don't.

Please take the same aggressive stance against online bullying in your game that you do against botters and RMTers.

Foolish words are foolish. RMT isn't the problem. It is what comes along with RMT that creates security risks, both in game and to players out of game. Hacked accounts, stolen credit card and personal information, etc. Not to mention increases in botting related to RMT. You also need to discern between a one-way purchase of ISK for RM and the ability to convert ISK back to real money. CCP only goes one direction and that does not carry with it the negative aspects related to two-way RMT. But feel free to keep making shite up

Buying ISK legally or buying it through 3rd party is still buying ISK.

Shame on CCP for trying to drag their players into their failing attempt at misdirection. As far as we are concerned, the end result is the same. If it wrecks the game when 3rd party sites are doing it then how is it not still wrecking the game when CCP does it?

By all means, CCP, knock yourself out in your battle against 3rd party RMT. But until you stop doing the same thing, expect nothing but disdain from me for your blatantly hypocritical way of doing it. All I see is you trying to whip us up into a frenzy to help you secure your bottom line. Not to help the game.

Get back to me when you are ready to remove all RMT from the game. Not just 3rd party RMT.

Mr Epeen

Seriously?

Did you even read the OP? It's a shill for PLEX with a little fear mongering thrown in to bolster it. RMT is bad and shouldn't be in the game.

Picking the lesser of two evils is not the solution. Removing all RMT is. You think botting is only done by 3rd party criminals? Most is done to further CCPs legal ISK selling business. Removing all RMT will go a long way to fixing what's wrong with this games economy.

Mr Epeen

I hear bars do this too when people try and drink booze they bought elsewhere on the premises

You wouldn't even be here posting if they didn't sell PLEX. You have an equal share in the hypocrisy and shame.

Would be nice if PLEX wasn't 723 million. People right now are just going to pay for subs because the prices are ridiculously high. Of those who find "plexing" too daunting a prospect, a good portion are just going to go inactive.

Botters and RMTers should get treated worse than "cyberbullies", since they are ruining the game for everyone with their cheating.

Note: I use quotes when saying "cyberbullies", since I'm not convinced they exist. Sure, there's people that say mean things on the internet, but such is life. The only thing that seems to make someone saying mean words a "cyberbully" is the thickness (or lack thereof) of the person the words are aimed at. That tells me it's the fault of the recipient, not the fault of the average joe saying mean words.

I find it a bit daunting that a regular player who decides to bot for ISK is treated like he's vermin; banned without warning and spat on by the CCP staff.

Meanwhile we have members of the community who have engaged in hundreds -yes, hundreds- of acts of cyberbullying and CCP responds by simply muting them or sending a warning message.

I appreciate the fight against the bots and RMTers, but when you treat botters worse than you treat cyberbullies it creates a scenario where players like myself don't want to give you a dime of their money. And so we don't.

Please take the same aggressive stance against online bullying in your game that you do against botters and RMTers.

Even though some other people have this moral objection to drinking booze in the first place...

Some female MPs in the UK were threatened with **** and worse by idiots online.

That will do me as a clear example of cyber-bullying, the courts thought so too.

You might want to put an application in with Ripard Teg. I hear he's looking for butt hurt people like yourself.

Wow... how did a thread about RMT go from RMT to "Grrrrrr PLEX costs to much" then went full Ripardian with Cyberbullying?



I know this is GD, but still... damn.

Counterintuitively, we buy ISK. We do it to track, find and terminate RMT operations. Buying ISK for this purpose is in our budget as good return of investment in the fight against RMT.

Crafty as they are, they have a weakness. It's money. They do anything to get it. Account hacking, credit card fraud, exploits and botting is all part of THEIR game. However, protecting our players from violations of the EULA and more serious offenses is OUR game, and we have the team to do it.

Sadly, some buyers may be affected when ISK originating from such sources is confiscated and bans issued. However, our EULA is also clear that players should not buy outside of EVE or CCP. We regret all damages caused by RMT and will never tire of telling people about PLEX and how it may be purchased on our website and through our official retail partners, listed here. Or that PLEX can then be sold via the in-game for ISK. Heaps of ISK!

Now, thar's something ye might want to try at home.

This leaves only one question...

Who will WE be buying from this week?

Seriously?

Did you even read the OP? It's a shill for PLEX with a little fear mongering thrown in to bolster it. RMT is bad and shouldn't be in the game.

Picking the lesser of two evils is not the solution. Removing all RMT is. You think botting is only done by 3rd party criminals? Most is done to further CCPs legal ISK selling business. Removing all RMT will go a long way to fixing what's wrong with this games economy.

Mr Epeen

The very fact that you felt obligated to post this seems to indicate your anti-rmt operations are not working as well as you'd like.

Or are people finally realizing that CCP is full of grandiose dreams and empty promises and have stopped buying plex at a sustainable level....

Crafty as they are, they have a weakness. It's money.

If you want cheaper PLEX then you should support the GM team's campaign against botters and RMTers. Every player that buys ISK from an RMT site is one that doesn't buy a PLEX from CCP to sell for ISK, thus reducing PLEX supply and increasing PLEX prices.

RMTers are literally stealing from you.


Burn them out.