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Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 07:33:00 - [1] Hmm i was toasted the other day in 0.0 space. The culprits had posative status and since no one was around to see the slapping i was given that wont change.. Why the hell cant i put a bounty on these guys heads? No fair ... WHAAAA
Fausto	Posted - 2003.09.24 07:58:00 - [2] Don't get to upset. Pirates with positive rating are chicken since they are afraid to stand for their action, they hide behind rating. At least the guys with negative rating are 'honest' about their intentions. And most of the positive rated guys will run away from real combat, they just like podding weaker guys (chicken is acctually very mild expression for them). Simple advice: don't trust anyone in zero space. ______ <brainpodder>
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:00:00 - [3] I agree entirly but. Im not a fighter..Im stealthy but no fighter. I have no recourse with these guys other than boosting my combat skills which i dont want to do .. Perhaps the "Black Market" will offer up a solution
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:17:00 - [4] Since these guys are hiding here are the names so the winged avengers among you can pod em. smithy Baron Blood crudger One of these guys (cant remember which) is in a corp that "is a friendly mining corp" Bahh u lamers. Dont get me wrong .. im happy to get podded now and again but i should be able to put a contract out on these guys. An assasination order rather than a bounty .. There is a subtle diference and i apreciate it.
Chai N'Dorr	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:30:00 - [5] You can contract outside the system... just post a bounty on this part of the Forum and if it's sweet enough there'll be people taking on the contract.
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:34:00 - [6] HEHE Great ok I guess i can afford 500k each . I want the corpses. If thats not enough someone let me know and we can negotiate
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:37:00 - [7] Quote: Since these guys are hiding here are the names so the winged avengers among you can pod em. smith Baron Blood crudger One of these guys (cant remember which) is in a corp that "is a friendly mining corp" Bahh u lamers. Dont get me wrong .. im happy to get podded now and again but i should be able to put a contract out on these guys. An assasination order rather than a bounty .. There is a subtle diference and i apreciate it.
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:38:00 - [8] Sorry smithy.. its smith i want
darth solo	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:39:00 - [9] You can my friend, this guy attacked you, i dont know the facts, but i presume you never fired first?. All you need to do is speak to the CEO of this "mining corp", if he isnt reasonable, then if you are in a corp, declare war. If your CEO doesnt want to do this, then leave, whats the point in being in a corp if they dont wish to defend you?. Then form your own corp, declare war on them, and hunt them down 1 by 1, or just go after your main target, this works great if the corp mines in high security systems(no deffence). When you have finished, scrap the corp and go back to your merry ways in a noob corp for a while. That is what i would do in your place, remeber their is always a way to get your revenge my friend.
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:41:00 - [10] Thanks for the advice.
Leellu Multipass	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:42:00 - [11] I kill people in 0.0s all the time, but I keep my rating positive for the sole purpose of being able to travel to empire space. That's all. I need to be able to buy skills.
Gadgets	Posted - 2003.09.24 08:45:00 - [12] I am not saying that you shouldnt keep your rating Im saying there should be an in game "assasination" bit so i can put a "bounty" on your head. Imagine the ceo of the miner2 corps would have assasination orders on the np .. it would add some more fun
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2003.09.24 16:03:00 - [13] Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 24/09/2003 16:04:12 Quote: Im saying there should be an in game "assasination" bit so i can put a "bounty" on your head. You can, right here: Just name a player, name a price and tell all interested parties to PM or message you for updated info on their current locations. Then you pay them when they deliver the frozen corpse to you. Bear in mind that no one is going to do a hit for you for 500 K though. We're talking probably 5-20 mil, depending on who you want taken out, what ships they are flying, who they are affiliated with, etc. And no one at all in going to do a hit for you in secure empire space, unless it was for a huge enough sum of Isk to be worth training and sacrificing an alt (if the target drives a frig or indy) or leaving a powerful player stuck in one system for weeks while his sec rating recovers. and FYI, the bounty system is never a good idea. Someone who builds up a decent bounty on themselves cashes it in themselves, there are like 100 different ways to do this. Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
The Major	Posted - 2003.09.25 13:01:00 - [14] looks at Level 3 Agent with Sec Rating fixing ability Gets very tempted
The Wretch	Posted - 2003.09.25 13:07:00 - [15] "Don't get to upset. Pirates with positive rating are chicken since they are afraid to stand for their action, they hide behind rating." I would say they were actually the "intellegent" pirates. The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
Rising Sin	Posted - 2003.09.25 13:38:00 - [16] Edited by: Rising Sin on 25/09/2003 13:39:25 Quote: Don't get to upset. Pirates with positive rating are chicken since they are afraid to stand for their action, they hide behind rating. At least the guys with negative rating are 'honest' about their intentions. And most of the positive rated guys will run away from real combat, they just like podding weaker guys (chicken is acctually very mild expression for them). What a crock. The reason that positive sec pirates exist is because they were good but went bad at some point. Their positive sec does not decrease because if you are outside of empire space, your security level takes no hits. I've been in an unofficial war with a few corps for a while (not actually in war), have killed a number of ships and pods, and have yet to lose a single bit of my extremely high security status. This is what it comes down to: outside empire space, security status doesn't matter, period. If the guy has low sec, chances are he's a pirate. If he has high sec, he can still be a pirate, even if it's not immediately obvious. The allegation that "pos sec pirates" are chickens is entirely unfounded. In .0 space, players have little if any control over their sec. If I, with my 9.3 sec, wanted to start pirating, it would take a HUGE amount of effort to "show it" with a negative sec. With each kill and pod in empire space, I'll lose .1-.2 sec. This means, I'll have to go into empire space and kill up to 93 ships along with their pods, and more if I want a really negative status -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right."
Koda	Posted - 2003.09.25 14:21:00 - [17] Some of this is no doubt from players who farmed npc rats before the sec. status boosts they gave got nerfed. Why CCP saw fit not to balance this aspect of the game is beyond me, but it gave some a license to murder in empire space with little or no consequence. -------------- Share the love in the SNIGG Forums
The Major	Posted - 2003.09.25 14:27:00 - [18] Actually a Pod Kill in Epmire spac eis a -3.0 sec hit, a destroyed ship is -0.5. To drop from 9.3 to 0 wouldn't take very long if you actually follow through attacks and destroy ships and pod people. Like most pirates do. You'd have to open fire on 93 ships to hit 0. not podkill 93 people. You could podkill 4 people and be in the negative ratings. Also out in Venal or any 0.0 space with an empire in charge (in Venal its the Guristas) there is still a sec penalty for podkilling (although it's lower than empire space). The only place you can podkill without repercusions on your sec rating is in a selection of bugged 0.0 systems and the 0.0 systems without any empire in charge. And as a result without any stations.
Rising Sin	Posted - 2003.09.25 14:30:00 - [19] I guess that all depends on where you do it, because when I destroyed ships in "pirate-friendly" areas of the empire like SI pirates I fought in Egbinger, I lost exactly the numbers I stated. -- "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right."
trap	Posted - 2003.09.25 14:53:00 - [20] Edited by: trap on 25/09/2003 14:53:06 really wretch... so u think a pirate with a negative security rating isnt as intelligent as one with a positive? Me thinks you should come visit. ---------------------------------------------- [ 2003.11.20 05:35:28 ] Jade Constantine > looks like you blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again
Jarjar	Posted - 2003.09.25 15:20:00 - [21] Quote: Edited by: trap on 25/09/2003 14:53:06 really wretch... so u think a pirate with a negative security rating isnt as intelligent as one with a positive? Me thinks you should come visit. Hmm, his point was obviously that the smart pirates doesn't waste their chance to travel anywhere they want. With -9.9, getting to a starter/school system can be pretty hard.
Lallante	Posted - 2003.09.25 18:51:00 - [22] LOL fools! The advantages to a positive sec status are multiple. A status just below 0 is actually often indicitive of a HARD-CORE Pirate who hasnt been to empire space for so long his Sec has gone back up I myself have -1.9 and I havnt been to empire space for 80days. I regularly take on 2 BSs at once, and run if I start taking hull dmg. Am I a ***? I dont have -9.9 (i used to), but I have flown with m0o, with EoE and with Sin. I podkill 10 times a day, and dont kill noobs (and often not frigs). Consider this: - Rating : When people arrive they get a THREAT warning You cant go anywhere quickly You cant Trade You cant sell stuff + Rating People Dont Even see you till you lock on (if you camp above and behind) You can get to troublespots in minutes not hours You can Trade and mine in Empire You would have to be stupid to WANT a -ve status. All the pirates i know (the wanted list), want to raise their status. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa**
Mr Money	Posted - 2003.09.25 19:14:00 - [23] Edited by: Mr Money on 25/09/2003 19:15:07 A good rule of thumb is when your in 0.0 space don't trust anyone. Even if they have the highest sec rating you've ever seen. Sometimes when someone gets their first BS they spend all their time killing npc's so they have a high sec rating. Then they get bored and begin attacking ppl in sec space so always try to keep on the look out. The reason you cant put a bounty on them is because as long as it doesn't happen in empire space, the empire doesnt care. I like chocolate milk, milkshakes, regular milk, money, and chicks with big racks
mk ultra	Posted - 2003.09.25 19:29:00 - [24] Rising sin you were probably in a gang when you fought and the sec hits splits so everyone gets a piece . Or you never killed anyone you just destroyed their ships . ------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
pooti	Posted - 2003.09.25 19:59:00 - [25] i dont think gangs affect your security hit - had someone pod a guy in a .4 while ganged and we still both lost 3.
Acix	Posted - 2003.09.25 20:25:00 - [26] we could not do our jobs if it was not for the 0.0 space areas that give no pod kill sec rating hit. These systems are not bugged, they are way out in the middle of nowhere and they need to stay like that. You forget who you are affecting when you call out for changes on things that are not broken. Being a law enforcement corp we do not get any backing by concord. It would be nice but it is not the case. So we need these areas to get the pos sec rating pirates. You just need to understand that you cannot trust anyone out in 0.0 space. If you see someone warp in and you are the only other pilot in the system, they are more than likely after you. So be more alert to your surroundings and you will be safer in 0.0 space. SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts. For more info click below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313
The Major	Posted - 2003.09.26 02:15:00 - [27] If you're fighting pirates like SI (Most of which have highly negative security ratings) then you won't suffer any penalty for anything you do to them because CONCORD like it when people pod low sec criminals. It saves them a job. If you attack anybody with a rating below -5.0 anywhere even outside a CONCORD station in Yulai then nobody will care. Sentries won't fire on you and CONCORD won't interupt. Unless the person your fighting fires back and you have a positive sec rating in which case the sentries will open up on them and do half the job for you. A big advantage of Bounty Hunting is that you get the Sentries on your side. Shame killing neg sec players doesn't boost your sec rating.
The Major	Posted - 2003.09.26 02:22:00 - [28] The bugged systems I refer to are in some regions like Venal and Pure Blind where you don't suffer a sec hit for anything but if you go 1 jump you will even though the security rating is the same and you're under the rule of the same empire (ussually Guristas out in Venal, and it depends where you are in PB). The only places you can consistently avoid sec hit sis in the 0.0 systems where no empire, including pirate empires have laid claim and show up as having no sovreignty on the Eve map. Even then you shouldn't be worried about sec rating if you're prepared. Agents are very usefull people to have. I can get my security rating upped from -6.0 to 0.0 for the measly sum of 300k thanks to my agents.
Smith	Posted - 2003.09.26 06:26:00 - [29] Gadgets, You were destroyed because we had a couple of our guys toasted around that region....so as punishment we killed everything we could find. Space Invaders were our primary targets, but we also killed anyone else in that region. You putting a bounty on my head flattered me. Fills me up with a warm glow of being loved. As for the noob who said we hide behind positive status...its called using your brain. If none of use could come and pick up BPs and Skills we would be pretty stuck out here in 0.0 space. DonÆt trust anyone in O.O space.

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