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EinhanderZ
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Posted - 2006.06.01 05:43:00 -
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I was pondering this and mentally stumbled upon an interesting dilema with EvE and China.
Is EvE to... free?
Now I know it sounds kinda ignorant of me, but with the censorship of just about everything, could the "openess" bring undesired attention from the chinese government? The game has no "central authority" (everything is player based), CCP has proven to be as hands-off as possible, and the game tends to promote a "Do as you will" much more than any other game on the market.
Would ccp be demanded to force changes on the game (censorship being a biggy)? If cpp refuses, could the repercussions be disasterous?
If any devs could shed some light on this situation, it would be a most interesting read.
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.06.01 05:59:00 -
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I believe the only gameplay change being made is no pod killing. Other than that it's the same game. The Gallente are still a democracy in EVE China even.
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Valen L'eganas
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:01:00 -
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EVE-china has been rigously checked by the Chinese authorities to meet the demand and approval to go live. Dough I'm unsure if there is a form of censsoring ingame on the Chinese cluster. I do know some political and religious settings have been altered to the Chinese server to meet these demands.
I recall reading this in the #3 issue of E-ON.
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Kordesh
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Posted - 2006.06.01 06:07:00 -
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 Originally by: SpaceDrake Taleweaver
I believe the only gameplay change being made is no pod killing. Other than that it's the same game. The Gallente are still a democracy in EVE China even.
An Eve without pod killing is scarcely an Eve at all!
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kordesh
Originally by: SpaceDrake Taleweaver
I believe the only gameplay change being made is no pod killing. Other than that it's the same game. The Gallente are still a democracy in EVE China even.
An Eve without pod killing is scarcely an Eve at all!
No refreances to religion
No drugs
No obvious attempts to put bad "ideas" in peoples heads.
thats the last i heard about what the Foreign Affairs Office put out for outside mass media doing the $$ dance
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:21:00 -
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Strange why some governments think that their citizens are dumber than citizens of other nations
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol
Originally by: Kordesh
Originally by: SpaceDrake Taleweaver
I believe the only gameplay change being made is no pod killing. Other than that it's the same game. The Gallente are still a democracy in EVE China even.
An Eve without pod killing is scarcely an Eve at all!
No refreances to religion
No drugs
No obvious attempts to put bad "ideas" in peoples heads.
thats the last i heard about what the Foreign Affairs Office put out for outside mass media doing the $$ dance
No religion? How do they pull off the Amarr?
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Sandra Tseng
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:39:00 -
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why would they not want to have podkilling in the game?
I can nto make the connection here... 
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:43:00 -
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My understanding of the matter is that you're not allowed to "kill" your opponent in Chinese online games anymore. Thus, no podding and definitely no corpse collection.
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Maximillian Pele
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Posted - 2006.06.01 07:46:00 -
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The Empire map of Eve China is easy.
Amarr = Mainland China with the Emperor now the Communist Party Leader.
Caldari = Hong Kong: Capitalist but under Amarr control.
Gallente = Tiawan: a renegade democratic provence of Amarr.
Minmatar = Tibet and don't you be asking any questions about them or you will be "pod killed" in RL.
Simple really.
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Perlissa
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:04:00 -
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Moghydin, cool sig. 
Nice to see that the Shadows are alive and well. 
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:14:00 -
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Seconded on the no player killing in china, I read about that in relation to another game a while ago, think it still holds true.
******* weird though
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Shoopy
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:57:00 -
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I know they passed a law recently that no one under the age of 18 can play games that involves player killing and time limitation, so you cant play more than 12hrs?
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Smalum
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Pele
Minmatar = Tibet and don't you be asking any questions about them or you will be "pod killed" in RL.
Simple really.
you know, you just compared the most violent race of eve with a culture that is known for its non-violant way of struggle (although there is exeptions). that's quite funny :)
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Ngwee
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:36:00 -
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You dont get it?
Hes referring to the chinese suppresion of Tibet
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:41:00 -
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What makes me wonder is whether or not censorship is all there's going to be in EVE China. Or will it go further as to percussions for those offending China's law.
What if a person on EVE China is actively promoting freedom of speech, isn't he as such a danger to the system and will he possibly face real life consequences?
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Smalum
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ngwee
You dont get it?
Hes referring to the chinese suppresion of Tibet
Yep, but comparing a somewhat berserk minmatar pilot with a peacefull buddhist monk is quite absurd.. 
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Sandra Tseng
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:47:00 -
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I wonder if we are under some kind of secret censorship?
What are you hiding from us CCP!?
I will order a ticket for Iceland and get going with an investigation...
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
I wonder if we are under some kind of secret censorship?
What are you hiding from us CCP!?
I will order a ticket for Iceland and get going with an investigation...
100 CCP people and only 4 of them post regularly.. hmm .. 
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Iron Wraith
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:53:00 -
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hmm, but we dont kill people. milliseconds before death the mind is transfered to another clone. the victim never dies, only his discared clone dies. so maybe ccp sneaked round the no killing rule with eve's backstory?
/me cuddles his horde of corpses
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St Dragon
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:45:00 -
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As long as the fans in china love eve like we do here im sure it will work out.
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TricksR4Cats
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Smalum
Originally by: Ngwee
You dont get it?
Hes referring to the chinese suppresion of Tibet
Yep, but comparing a somewhat berserk minmatar pilot with a peacefull buddhist monk is quite absurd..
Whilst I fear I might get warned for being off topic, less than 0.1% of Tibet's population is made up of monks :)
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Steppa
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:51:00 -
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Is it just me or have we in the West become so affluent that we are no longer outraged en masse about things like China's rules regarding the internet in general? The only way freedom remains free occurs when citizens are militant about that freedom. It just seems like we're dying the death of a thousand cuts and this is yet another one.
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F4ze
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:26:00 -
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No podkilling?
Does that mean no clones?
No losing of implants?
No clonejumping?
I wonder how it will work...
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:34:00 -
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EVE wont be EVE without pod killings or the correct storyline.
Have EVE changed the name of Amarr to Ama? Since R isnt a letter used in the Chinese language.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Valkazm on 01/06/2006 13:50:25
This topic is abit stupid while they censor some things in games and storyline or rather change it abit .. we still have P.o.R.N on the net and people doing icky things with animals all over the net ..
Think freedom of speech is abit over rated ..
edit.. ccp censored P.O.R.N
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 01/06/2006 19:55:08
shhhhh
ccp are being watched by the big red firewall and they arent allowed to talk about such things
oh and join my sig war against it
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Cathandra
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Posted - 2006.06.16 14:51:00 -
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In soviet china GAME plays YOU! 
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Shigsy
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Posted - 2006.06.16 14:56:00 -
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^^ You're an idiot... that's Soviet Russia
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Nexus1972
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Posted - 2006.06.16 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Yakati
What makes me wonder is whether or not censorship is all there's going to be in EVE China. Or will it go further as to percussions for those offending China's law.
What if a person on EVE China is actively promoting freedom of speech, isn't he as such a danger to the system and will he possibly face real life consequences?
This worries me also, I guess they have already made ccp sensor certain subjects (such as tibet) in chat channels/eve-mail, but what happens if people do start convo'ing and mailing each other with these 'naughty' words/subjects.
Can CCP assure us that they wont follow microsoft and yahoo's example and report their users to the chinese government for infringments relating to speaking about democracy for example. In china it could have serious repurcusions, up to and including inprisonment/execution. How would ccp feel if they had caused someone to be podkilled IRL?
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