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Anyanka Chantais
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:41:00 -
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Before you all jump up and scream "Iteron V", I want to point out the following.
Iteron V: 6k cargohold, 5 lowslots.
Badger II: 5.5k cargohold. 6 lowslots.
Has anyone done the math on this? what kind of expanders would i need to make a badger better than an iteron? assume 5 levels of industrial skill; i've decided my second account will be becoming a hauler for the time being, so i can easily sink the 20 days into learning the skill. but i'd rather not spend an extra month just to compare the two!
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Auren I'del
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:45:00 -
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Badger II have 3 low slots => Iteron V is best :)
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herr Jortikka
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:47:00 -
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Iteron V has 6000m3 base cargohold after skills it has 7500m3...
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Zhull
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:48:00 -
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It has 6 mid slots, but only 3 lows
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.06.01 08:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Anyanka Chantais
Before you all jump up and scream "Iteron V", I want to point out the following.
Iteron V: 6k cargohold, 5 lowslots.
Badger II: 5.5k cargohold. 6 lowslots.
umm where did ya get teh badger having 6 low slots from 
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Anyanka Chantais
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:00:00 -
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clearly, i am a lunatic. pay me no mind.
i think i read the wrong number in my copy of EVEmon.
now, i wonder what expanded cargohold II modules cost...
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 01/06/2006 09:01:09
edit: nvm
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:02:00 -
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With all lows filled with best named expanders:
1st Prorator (T2)
2nd Occator (T2)
3rd Iteron mkV
4th Bustard (T2)
5th Mastadon (T2)
6th Mammoth
7th ...
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: Novarei on 01/06/2006 09:05:24
Edited by: Novarei on 01/06/2006 09:05:02
I made this a while ago;
http://eve.nupo.org/indycalc.html
should answer all your industial questions :)
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:06:00 -
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T2 expanders aint in the game.
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Zhull
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
With all lows filled with best named expanders:
1st Prorator (T2)
2nd Occator (T2)
3rd Iteron mkV
4th Bustard (T2)
5th Mastadon (T2)
6th Mammoth
7th ...
1st = Impel
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Ritm
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:07:00 -
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Impel have 7 lows.. with 7 expanders you move like an old drunk snail but i think it have biggest cargohold.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:18:00 -
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Awww too bad this was industrials only otherwise the revelation would pwn all of them
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Anyanka Chantais
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Anyanka Chantais on 01/06/2006 09:22:49
Edited by: Anyanka Chantais on 01/06/2006 09:22:34
does that hold true for the expanders most people actually have, or just the 29.5%'s? because i only hve one that i think is at 29.5, and it was a rare loot...
edit: given this info i'm thinking i'll learn amarr industrial on my alt for thre purpose of hauling with tractor beam and station instas for corp mining ops. who needs velocity?
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:22:00 -
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My alt is a Caldari, but I'll admit I trained him up to fly Iteron V's, they are surprisingly versatile.
Got 3 setups:
- User-hauler with expanders and GSCs
- Nippy hauler with nanos
- Mid-sec miner with armour tank.
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Anyanka Chantais
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:30:00 -
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hmm, versatility is a good point. i might be happier with the iteron5. my main (me) can already use an iteron 4, but i've been focusing on BS and HAC skills. the 2nd is almost done all the learning skills...
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:47:00 -
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And if you train the indy skill to 5, you're not far from being able to fly transport ships (the T2 indies) -- those are very cool, too.
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2006.06.01 10:04:00 -
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With maxed out relative skill and lows full of 27,44% xpanders:
Impel (T2) -> 27296,71 m¦
Occator (T2) -> 26774,08 m¦
Iteron Mark V (T1) -> 25211,00 m¦
Bustard (T2) -> 23110,08 m¦
Mastodon (T2) -> 22059,63 m¦
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Koto Rae
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:03:00 -
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Yep, Impel is the best. But with 7 expanders mine goes a whopping 15 m/s.
I love it, but turtles speed by and leave me in the dust.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
My alt is a Caldari, but I'll admit I trained him up to fly Iteron V's, they are surprisingly versatile.
Got 3 setups:
- User-hauler with expanders and GSCs
- Nippy hauler with nanos
- Mid-sec miner with armour tank.
I do not know about the Transports but the Mk-V is the only T1 hauler that can fit a 10mn MWD (been told a Mammoth can but I have never seen it). With good skills 4xMAPC low and a 10mn MWD pops in just fine. Generally with this setup I just fill everything else with cap rechargers/relays as I rarely haul loot like this and just want to get it from A -> B fast. It hits the gate at over 1000m/s and there is something fun about a Mk-V tearing by a shuttle on the way to the gate.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Anyanka Chantais
Edited by: Anyanka Chantais on 01/06/2006 09:22:49
Edited by: Anyanka Chantais on 01/06/2006 09:22:34
does that hold true for the expanders most people actually have, or just the 29.5%'s? because i only hve one that i think is at 29.5, and it was a rare loot...
edit: given this info i'm thinking i'll learn amarr industrial on my alt for thre purpose of hauling with tractor beam and station instas for corp mining ops. who needs velocity?
29.5% expanders are not in game yet. People have been waiting for them forever. Considering Local Hull Expanders sell for around 25 mil each the person who gets a T2 Expander BPO will be an instant billionaire (I can think of few BPOs I'd rather have if just thinking about earning potential).
Unless you are a serious hauler and have a very good hauler (Mammoth or Mk-V at least) I would not waste my money on expanders that good. Beta expanders are half the price of Locals and I'd say they are too much as well for a L3 hauler.
Of course do whatever you want but a 75+ mil Badger-II seems silly somehow and it still wouldn't have all that great of a cargo (13k).
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Car Wars
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: FireFoxx80
My alt is a Caldari, but I'll admit I trained him up to fly Iteron V's, they are surprisingly versatile.
Got 3 setups:
- User-hauler with expanders and GSCs
- Nippy hauler with nanos
- Mid-sec miner with armour tank.
I do not know about the Transports but the Mk-V is the only T1 hauler that can fit a 10mn MWD (been told a Mammoth can but I have never seen it). With good skills 4xMAPC low and a 10mn MWD pops in just fine. Generally with this setup I just fill everything else with cap rechargers/relays as I rarely haul loot like this and just want to get it from A -> B fast. It hits the gate at over 1000m/s and there is something fun about a Mk-V tearing by a shuttle on the way to the gate.
Try a viator = 2000+ m/s 
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: FireFoxx80
My alt is a Caldari, but I'll admit I trained him up to fly Iteron V's, they are surprisingly versatile.
Got 3 setups:
- User-hauler with expanders and GSCs
- Nippy hauler with nanos
- Mid-sec miner with armour tank.
I do not know about the Transports but the Mk-V is the only T1 hauler that can fit a 10mn MWD (been told a Mammoth can but I have never seen it). With good skills 4xMAPC low and a 10mn MWD pops in just fine. Generally with this setup I just fill everything else with cap rechargers/relays as I rarely haul loot like this and just want to get it from A -> B fast. It hits the gate at over 1000m/s and there is something fun about a Mk-V tearing by a shuttle on the way to the gate.
A mammoth can do it too. 3x RCU II and you got 152 grid. enough to fit a 10mn mwd
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 01/06/2006 13:58:02
double post, arghhhh
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JackDonkey
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Posted - 2006.06.01 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: JackDonkey on 01/06/2006 18:03:30
T1 is the iteron 5
T2 I dont know but for afk missions I use
Occator
6 nanos, med cap battery, mwd
2000m/s
8000 cargo with 2 giant cans in cargo
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Megri
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Posted - 2006.06.01 22:34:00 -
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Forget industrials, and get a carrier...
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.06.02 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Awww too bad this was industrials only otherwise the revelation would pwn all of them
Revelation? Nah, Hel.
Revelation: 7250m3
Hel:
25000m3 (Corporate Hangar)
5050m3 (Hold)
225000m3 (9x Iteron Vs without skill taken into acount, full cargo expanders in lows)
Point me out if I'm wrong.
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Dylan
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Posted - 2006.06.02 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis
Originally by: Chribba
Awww too bad this was industrials only otherwise the revelation would pwn all of them
Revelation? Nah, Hel.
Revelation: 7250m3
Hel:
25000m3 (Corporate Hangar)
5050m3 (Hold)
225000m3 (9x Iteron Vs without skill taken into acount, full cargo expanders in lows)
Point me out if I'm wrong.
Your comparing a dread to a Mothership 
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Minyon
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Posted - 2006.06.02 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis
Originally by: Chribba
Awww too bad this was industrials only otherwise the revelation would pwn all of them
Revelation? Nah, Hel.
Revelation: 7250m3
Hel:
25000m3 (Corporate Hangar)
5050m3 (Hold)
225000m3 (9x Iteron Vs without skill taken into acount, full cargo expanders in lows)
Point me out if I'm wrong.
But can you use a Carrier to scoop up ore after mining op and use up all of that cargo room ?
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Syris Anu
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Posted - 2006.06.02 04:39:00 -
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Impel is the king, but it means little since it is basically immobile. However, you can do 6 cargo expanders, 1 local nanofiber, and a MWD and get decent speed out of it. Just remember that this will take very high skills, both as to speed, and as to cap and warp drive operation as it chews cap fast. Without these, the Impel is a piece of crap.
The blockade runners are much better ships for non-mass haulage. The Impel class of ships is total crap because you would use a freighter if you needed that much space, and you would use the blockade runner if you actually needed to get anywhere dangerous (my Prorator does 3100M/s+).
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