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Peace Fox
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Posted - 2006.06.01 10:28:00 -
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What is the return of investment of an Outpost.
How long does it take?
Of course it depends a lot of the nbr of people using it. Lets say 50 players a day.
Does anyone has experience in that?
Thanks
Peace Fox
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Stins
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:06:00 -
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Not enough info Peace 
What kind of outpost?
A refinery will earn itself back a lot faster as any other outpost imo. Gotta ask yourself questions as who is gonna use it, why, what will they do, what will be the income from that (docking fee, market transactions, factory usage).
Also keep in mind that you need sovereignty to hold an outpost, so you need POS, can you make money from them? or will they cost money? Should also included.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.06.01 11:34:00 -
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I have a fair bit of experience with this... You'll need info on type of outpost, and if a refinery how much people will be mining per day and at what refine tax %, etc...
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Peace Fox
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Posted - 2006.06.01 15:50:00 -
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OK, my conclusion:
- it depends
- and if it depends u may make money or u may not
=> has to be considered carfully.
Can u set refining fee @ 5%?
Peace Fox
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Duradam
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:36:00 -
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Yes, thats what I'm paying in the outpost I mine and refine at.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.06.02 00:08:00 -
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Don't forget that you generally have to pair that off against weekly upkeep costs, as far ranging and amorphous as that figure may be.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.06.02 10:54:00 -
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Rough guesstimate on refierny, 2 years.
Rough guesstimate on other outposts, 20 years.
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Tobbstar
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Posted - 2006.06.02 12:50:00 -
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when im mining at an outpost i pay 5% and i mine atleast per day 10k morph which is 500 units of morph per player 500 times 50 is like 25k morph in your pocket.
Per day though and then there is the question what type of ore is there around
So i think it dependes quite alot to where you place it in a system with low number of roid belts and many players is gonna halt your income.
As to placing it in a system with hell-of-alot roid belts which is gonna be better and suppourt alot more miners.
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Duradam
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Posted - 2006.06.03 00:16:00 -
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And belts a jump or two away as well. A safe 0.0 system with bistot and mercoxit and a lot more bistot belts 1 jump over should see pretty decent income from the refining tax. Of course, you'll need to allow miners to dock, make sure enough miners or industrial corps know about the station, and provide them with reasonably safe space. No one wants to mine if they have to flee pirates every 10mins.
The potential income from a refining tax is large, but other conditions matter. Other station options are renting out office space on a gallente outpost, or production/research space, but I don't think your profits will be nearly as high with those, since corps can easily run their own POSs for the same purpose. As a miner I'm biased, but I wouldn't set up an outpost that didn't have a refining facility.
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Effei Gloom
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Posted - 2006.06.07 02:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Peace Fox
What is the return of investment of an Outpost.
How long does it take?
Of course it depends a lot of the nbr of people using it. Lets say 50 players a day.
Does anyone has experience in that?
Thanks Peace Fox
my experiences:
-Minmatar refining outpost returns refining % into your corp account,
-Gallente market outpost dont return any % (you cannot change or dont recieve isk due to trade)
-Amarr and Caldari have only factory and lab rent income :(
all Outposts have income from Offices you rent and can set a prie for.
so far i have seen only refinery outposts have good income.
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Effei Gloom
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Posted - 2006.06.07 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Peace Fox
What is the return of investment of an Outpost.
How long does it take?
Peace Fox
buiding costs of about 23-27bill isk have a payback of
Minmatar refining outpost with 10% tax (75%refining yield) 12-36 month
Gallente (never) !?
Amarr / Caldari 3-4 years
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.06.07 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Effei Gloom
Originally by: Peace Fox
What is the return of investment of an Outpost.
How long does it take?
Peace Fox
buiding costs of about 23-27bill isk have a payback of
Minmatar refining outpost with 10% tax (75%refining yield) 12-36 month
Gallente (never) !?
Amarr / Caldari 3-4 years
After skills, you get 95% yield on an outpost.
And 12-36 months only if you are doing something terribly wrong.
Oh, and are the guys that charged you 27bn for your outposts flying faction ships all of a sudden?
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