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Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote Riht now Gecko drone is super Fun! but i saw they are geting huge dps nerf on sisi, so are they going to be nerfed when Kronos is coming out? i know a loot poeple are using them now for pve, because they have better dps and tracking and the speed. they do omni dmg tho. right now you have about 1050 dps on ishatar, and on sisi you have 850 :< and about 817 with reglar heavy drones. so i guess people will stop using them. So is this idea goin to be be live on Tq?
Karen Avioras Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult 652	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:23:00 - [2] - Quote They are way to strong right now and are making all other drones obsolete.
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM 3292	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:27:00 - [3] - Quote Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:29:00 - [4] - Quote Karen Avioras wrote: They are way to strong right now and are making all other drones obsolete. well there is limit on them, and they don't have more tank, and you can deploy less, and if people use them a loot they will be gone sooner than later. a loot will be lost in space, kiled by ships and burn with the cargo. it's allways good for the game to have some thing that is OP. It brings some content and specialy if this thing is limited like gecko drones, and gnosis. isn't gnosis super good? :)
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:30:00 - [5] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) sad to hear ... they are super fun now, and they will be just another Meh ... in space after nerf :(
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire 594	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:36:00 - [6] - Quote Hairpins Blueprint wrote: Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) sad to hear ... they are super fun now, and they will be just another Meh ... in space after nerf :( On SiSi, it appears as if their tracking/mobility would still outperform regular heavies - their dps though seems to be inferior right now. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) well i hope faction drone dmg mods will bring dps back :O
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 114	Posted - 2014.05.20 19:51:00 - [8] - Quote The Gecko has the bade damage bonus that all drones are getting in Kronos, already.. which means when Krono's hits, it's DPS will go down with the nerfs to Drone Interfacing skill. But it'll still be awesome. But not like it is now, where using any other drone (less maybe sentries) is foolish when it can be used.
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.20 20:29:00 - [9] - Quote i think CCP made an awsome move by starting giving players items that and fun and can actualy be used like Gnosis. But the Gnosis didn't bring power swift in null sec, or pushed drake/tengu away. some people gave it a try and now you don't see it to often, but it's still used. Well same with gecko, right? The drone is not to OP, you kill one and you cut dps of enemy ship by almost 50% and it's just one heavy drone that is not coming back. there is limited supply of them from active accounts. So it's not so cool for pvp, but it's used a bit in pve because you get just a little bigger tick with them and have open options for other drones on drone boats. because 2X gecko have better dps than 5X t2 heavy drones. but they do opmni witch make is about same dps, but you still have the wonderful option for other drones, like salvage ones :) but if you cut the DPS to about as T2's there is no point to use the in PvE because you will deal a lot less dmg than with T2's, and it means that thay will be no longer optimal to use in pve. you will make it another relic in hangar and they will likly don't see the sun again. In my opinion it will be a step backwards and taking the candy away with all thet love that came with it :)
Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2014.05.20 20:34:00 - [10] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) They already got Kronos stats Fozzie stated on his twitter.

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1565	Posted - 2014.05.20 20:40:00 - [11] - Quote just keep them as something fun to use but only moderately useful limited edition birthday items that are handed out for free should not be the best that money can buy. they are collectors/novelty items. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Gigan Amilupar No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 254	Posted - 2014.05.20 20:48:00 - [12] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) The latter. Drone interfacing in Kronos is going from 20% per level to 10% per level, and the other 10% (well, it'll be 50% since it's scaled to having the skill at level V) is being baked into the drones themselves. Geckos however already have Kronos stats, so presently Geckos are getting 50% more damage on account of DI then they should be (at DI V, 100% from the skill and 50% baked into the drone).
Eli Hakomairos Creeper Co. Forkoff 6	Posted - 2014.05.20 22:32:00 - [13] - Quote Cmon, CCP those were our(your) birthday presents. :C leave um be... please?
Arthur Aihaken Erebus Solia 3607	Posted - 2014.05.20 23:51:00 - [14] - Quote Hairpins Blueprint wrote: Riht now Gecko drone is super Fun! but i saw they are geting huge dps nerf on sisi, so are they going to be nerfed when Kronos is coming out? Yes, but it's not actually a "nerf" per say (by any other definition it would be, but I digress lest the terminology police make an appearance)... it's just what the DPS was supposed to be post-Kronos. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain..." Yes, it's a nerf. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Arthur Aihaken Erebus Solia 3610	Posted - 2014.05.21 01:57:00 - [15] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Are they actively being nerfed, or are the keeping the same stats, but no longer benefiting from the interfacing bonus as much? (I've not checked) The latter. I posted a thread on this about a week or so ago but it digressed into semantics and a 12+ page discussion on the proper use of the term "nerf"... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Flyinghotpocket Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica 365	Posted - 2014.05.21 02:20:00 - [16] - Quote the geckos where released early with the new drone stats. all new drone states will be very close to this gecko when the patch hits. so dont worry all other drones are being balance to be the same as the gecko. roughly.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 293	Posted - 2014.05.21 04:01:00 - [17] - Quote They aren't being nerfed, so much as they aren't getting buffed (as they already are) when other drones will be. They will still be good after Kronos, they just won't be as far ahead of other heavies.
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 645	Posted - 2014.05.21 04:27:00 - [18] - Quote the only 'nerf' I know of is the damage due to change in drone interfacing skill. everything else is remaining the same.
Arthur Aihaken Erebus Solia 3612	Posted - 2014.05.21 04:48:00 - [19] - Quote Sobaan Tali wrote: They aren't being nerfed, so much as they aren't getting buffed (as they already are) when other drones will be. They will still be good after Kronos, they just won't be as far ahead of other heavies. Yeah, aka: nerf. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1180	Posted - 2014.05.21 04:56:00 - [20] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Sobaan Tali wrote: They aren't being nerfed, so much as they aren't getting buffed (as they already are) when other drones will be. They will still be good after Kronos, they just won't be as far ahead of other heavies. Yeah, aka: nerf. Don't do this, remember what happened last time?

SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 589	Posted - 2014.05.21 05:07:00 - [21] - Quote Never fails. CCP: Here's some cool free stuff. Entitled twits: WHAA NOT GOOD ENOUGH! You would think they would learn and just stop giving us gifts. I can only assume they're suffering from some sort of Stockholme-slash-battered-spouse syndrome. Come see me when you're ready to make a change, CCP. I'm here for you.
Arthur Aihaken Erebus Solia 3612	Posted - 2014.05.21 05:47:00 - [22] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: Don't do this, remember what happened last time? Sorry, Pandora's Box has been opened... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Aria Jimbojohnson University of Caille Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.05.21 05:59:00 - [23] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Tyberius Franklin wrote: Don't do this, remember what happened last time? Sorry, Pandora's Box has been opened... All that happened is a couple trolls wasted pages and pages talking about how an item losing power isn't a nerf unless the base stats are touched. By their logic, if the HAC skill suddenly went away, HACs wouldn't be getting nerfed even though they're losing 2 full bonuses. So yeah, they're getting nerfed pretty hard, even if it is indirectly.
Luwc Biohazard. WINMATAR. 133	Posted - 2014.05.21 07:11:00 - [24] - Quote Karen Avioras wrote: They are way to strong right now and are making all other drones obsolete. and they are limited. its like bitching that tournament ships are op. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
Dave stark 5954	Posted - 2014.05.21 07:45:00 - [25] - Quote Tyberius Franklin wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Sobaan Tali wrote: They aren't being nerfed, so much as they aren't getting buffed (as they already are) when other drones will be. They will still be good after Kronos, they just won't be as far ahead of other heavies. Yeah, aka: nerf. Don't do this, remember what happened last time? people pointed out the error and it took pages and pages to hammer the point home because people are more dense than granite?
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1180	Posted - 2014.05.21 07:52:00 - [26] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Tyberius Franklin wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: Sobaan Tali wrote: They aren't being nerfed, so much as they aren't getting buffed (as they already are) when other drones will be. They will still be good after Kronos, they just won't be as far ahead of other heavies. Yeah, aka: nerf. Don't do this, remember what happened last time? people pointed out the error and it took pages and pages to hammer the point home because people are more dense than granite? Do you see what you did Arthur? Now he's back to tell us we're all using his word wrong again!
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.21 08:14:00 - [27] - Quote Rowells wrote: the only 'nerf' I know of is the damage due to change in drone interfacing skill. everything else is remaining the same. y and it's it's won't be roled into the drone you have 50% less dmg bouns from the skill.
Hairpins Blueprint CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans 47	Posted - 2014.05.28 16:50:00 - [28] - Quote -50% dmg from skill is pretty heavy nerf ... can't it be at leat 25% insted of 50% ... : / just pimp the stats a little.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 751	Posted - 2014.05.28 17:24:00 - [29] - Quote Hairpins Blueprint wrote: -50% dmg from skill is pretty heavy nerf ... Yeah, that happens when something is that overpowered. The balls on you people, seriously. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Dave Stark 6027	Posted - 2014.05.28 17:29:00 - [30] - Quote SurrenderMonkey wrote: Hairpins Blueprint wrote: -50% dmg from skill is pretty heavy nerf ... Yeah, that happens when something is that overpowered. The balls on you people, seriously. actually, that happens when we buff drones by 33% to retain the over all level of power while removing the dependency upon mountains of SP to utilise something. in the same way links were changed quite recently, so lower sp characters gave better boosts than previously without increasing the overall power of links.

Soldarius Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore 685	Posted - 2014.05.28 18:12:00 - [31] - Quote People are not considering that Geckos will not be benefiting from the drone buffs coming this summer. They were balanced with the new stats in mind, not the current ones. So right now they are OP on TQ. But SiSi is where they are supposed to be. Once summer rebalance changes hit, Geckos will be omni-damage, uber pirate faction drones. Not the current wtfbbqpwnage that they are now. Have no fear. Your Rattlesnake will still be pooping out autonomous mini-HACs. GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥ -Grath Telkin, 2014.


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