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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:14:00 -
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There are lots of people in the community that like discussing WiS. (As evidenced by the massive number of posts that happen on either side of the discussion) The trolls keep forcing them to be locked denying us a place to discuss WiS for those of us that wish to do so. There was a mega threadnaught that got closed. This was a central location for people to discuss and express their support for it rather than starting a new thread every time someone wanted to talk about it. If we need to repeatedly open new threads, every time one gets opened, we'll get the identical "Not this thread again" trolls each time one gets opened, causing redundancy and increased irritation on both sides.
I would like to request that one thread be allowed to remain unlocked for discussion, and for the community volunteers to more actively police that one thread. By allowing the trolls to force lock threads, you deny your players that would like to discuss and express their interest in Avatar and/or WiS based gameplay peacefully.
I have started a new thread for discussing WiS gameplay and for showing your support for it. It can be found HERE
I would like to request that this thread be looked after and kept alive for those of us that do genuinely want to discuss it. |

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:17:00 -
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Didn't ccp make that thread for redundant 'new' ideas in F&I?
Hows that working out for afk cloaky/local threads  Blue-Fire Best Fire |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:18:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one? Sort of... like a pet?
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:20:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one? Sort of... like a pet?
Precisely. |

Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:26:00 -
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A Mangy Pet that should have been put down years ago but because the owner is selfish is keeping it alive even though it writhes in pain 24/7? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:33:00 -
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Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:36:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:A Mangy Pet that should have been put down years ago but because the owner is selfish is keeping it alive even though it writhes in pain 24/7?
While a very colorful metaphor, there are some fundamental differences that make it in inaccurate metaphor.
A forum thread is incapable of feeling therefore incapable of suffering. There is no misery to put it out of.
There is more selfishness in trying to deny people the right to discuss things they're interested in than there is in people wanting to discuss things they're interested in.
The problem isn't the threads about WiS. The problem is the people that seem to be incapable of simply ignoring them. If WiS doesn't interest you, Just ignore the threads. |
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:37:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-) ISD Decoy Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:42:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
There is an interest that in itself isn't malicious nor do the threads themselves violate the forums rules, and yet the situation keeps being allowed to degrade to the point where they simply lock the threads and punish everyone rather than just those that choose to disregard forum rules. I understand there's a need to maintain order and root out problems. I don't disagree with this, But locking the threads doesn't solve anything. Those that are abiding by the rules, are the one's that are hurt by the locking. Those that are breaking the rules and are causing problems get rewarded. This seems lik ea little bit of an ineffective solution.
I'm merely asking to keep a place to discuss it. Locking the threads about WiS doesn't make the interest go away so new threads will keep popping up. This is a simple fact. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:43:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Webvan wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one? Sort of... like a pet? Precisely. Well you'll need to ask your father, young man. A pet takes responsibility, and last I checked you had trouble making your bed in the morning. Maybe if you catch up on your chores for a while, your father may increase your allowance so you can save a little money to feed a pet... if he lets you get one. Now off you go, you'll miss the bus. |

Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:47:00 -
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ISD Decoy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-) Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?
Nice work mate. Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:51:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:ISD Decoy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-) Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support? Nice work mate.
I think it was an expression of patience, not a troll 
To ignore the fact that moderating games forums can be a bit tedious may be the easy thing to do, But Knowing how....trying... some forums members can be, I acknowledge the stuff the ISD need to tolerate and deal with on a regular basis. |

Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:52:00 -
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If there was only a place in the forums....where people of all walks could get together and discuss new features and ideas.... |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
5101
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:52:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote: Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?
Nice work mate.
^^ getting really bored with forums slowing down a bit today 
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:54:00 -
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Eleanor Wish wrote:If there was only a place in the forums....where people of all walks could get together and discuss new features and ideas....
We're not here to suggest WiS. We're here to discuss our interest in it in a general sense. To put it in F&I wouldn't be the appropriate place for it. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3437
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:59:00 -
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WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:01:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back.
Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If your'e tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it. |

Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
8028
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:02:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:ISD Decoy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-) Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support? Nice work mate. I think it was an expression of patience, not a troll  To ignore the fact that moderating games forums can be a bit tedious may be the easy thing to do, But Knowing how....trying... some forums members can be, I acknowledge the stuff the ISD need to tolerate and deal with on a regular basis. Didn't seem like it to me. But how about we let Mr ISD come and clarify exactly what he meant for us then?
II understand the demands of such a role first hand, but Im not going to kiss their ass so they do their job properly.
Webvan wrote:^^ getting really bored with forums slowing down a bit today  They are?
I've been distracted with RL work most of this arvo, but it's excited me to come and find these Avatar threads posted. I'd like to see it remain open and spend some time discussing the topics positively without having to worry about troll posts from asshats who themselves have nothing better to do or anything to post positively about.  Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3437
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:23:00 -
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Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back. Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it. I'm not tired of it, but it's a redundant thread, that's why they get closed. WiS is not coming back, so there's no point in discussing it on here. I'm not opposed to it, I think it could be quite fun, but EVE is a space game, and if they move into focussing on an FPS element they lose sight of their main game. For that reason they put it to bed. If the ISDs keep closing the thread, take the damn hint and stop it. Reposting the same threads over and over again is not helpful.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
8029
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:42:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back. Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it. I'm not tired of it, but it's a redundant thread, that's why they get closed. WiS is not coming back, so there's no point in discussing it on here. I'm not opposed to it, I think it could be quite fun, but EVE is a space game, and if they move into focussing on an FPS element they lose sight of their main game. For that reason they put it to bed. If the ISDs keep closing the thread, take the damn hint and stop it. Reposting the same threads over and over again is not helpful. "WiS" is a term that many of us use to describe avatars/avatar gameplay/the character creator overall. It's really not just about the actual mothballed WiS project itself, and thus it's still alive and well and very relevant. Sorry.
Is we stopped saying "WiS" and used a different term like Avatars or Character creation would that be OK with you?
Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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DrSmegma
Smegma United
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:45:00 -
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Whenever I make a new character, I make sure to ask in Rookie Help channel "How can I open the door in my CQ?"
Heh. Heheh. H-h-h-heheheh. Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:54:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Anonymous Forumposter wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back. Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it. I'm not tired of it, but it's a redundant thread, that's why they get closed. WiS is not coming back, so there's no point in discussing it on here. I'm not opposed to it, I think it could be quite fun, but EVE is a space game, and if they move into focussing on an FPS element they lose sight of their main game. For that reason they put it to bed. If the ISDs keep closing the thread, take the damn hint and stop it. Reposting the same threads over and over again is not helpful.
Please cite where it's stated that the reasons the threads get locked is because they're not going to make it?
Also, Please cite where it's stated that we want them to stop working on EVE stuff?
As for the FPS focus, They already are putting focus into FPS game play. It's called DUST and Legion. They're also Working on VR gaming. It's called diversification. It's something CCP is already doing. It's something CCP will continue doing.
The ISD's are closing threads because it's the easiest way to deal with the downward spiral caused by trolls and off topic posting.
It really feels like you're posting your emotions and opinions in a manner as to convince us they're facts. This often makes for flimsy arguments that can't hold up to any scrutiny. |

Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
272
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:55:00 -
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You could always use this one... |

Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
8031
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:59:00 -
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That's revolving around a very specific topic - Incarna content and "what happened to it".
I'd like to discuss avatars, avatar gameplay, WiS and it's fate, character creation, the New Eden Store etc in a general thread dedicated to the broader topic. 
Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2014.05.21 08:03:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:That's revolving around a very specific topic - Incarna content and "what happened to it". I'd like to discuss avatars, avatar gameplay, WiS and it's fate, character creation, the New Eden Store etc in a general thread dedicated to the broader topic. 
This. |

Winchester Steele
1136
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Posted - 2014.05.21 08:16:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:ISD Decoy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.
We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-) Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support? Nice work mate.
NO FUN ALLOWED. ... |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.05.21 09:03:00 -
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Stop creating multiple threads on the same topic.
There are plenty of threads out there already discussing WiS.
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