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Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:35:00 - [1] Hey folks im having a bit of a headache with my comp at the moment! Ill cut straight to the chase and give you the spec etc - ill give up 25million to whoever solves this problem for me! SPEC: P4 2.6ghz ABIT BE7 motherboard 2x512mb 333mhz DDR I'm attempting to add another 512mb stick in the third slot. It did not work. The machine failed to boot. I altered the positions of the three chips trying every possible permutation. The machine would then boot but recognise only 1gb of RAM and restart the machine while loading windows. The chip itself is 400mhz DDR and is functioning perfectly as i have since took a stick out of the 3rd slot. The problem as far as i'am aware is the computer not recognising ANY stick placed in the third slot. Is there an option within the BIOS ??? Do i have to mess with jumpers ??? Is there another explanation ??? Ill forward the iskies to anyone who can help me solve this prob! - please help! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Negative Nancy	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:40:00 - [2] Buy 2 1 Gig sticks and use the first 2 slots?
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:43:00 - [3] thats a solution yes but at the moment i would prefer to use the sticks i have! Besides when i start shelling out for a load of RAM and generally upgrading it will be for a Vista DX10 fully compatible machine. Waste of money till then! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Jeauxzuf	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:46:00 - [4] You should probably ignore me, but as I really need the money, I'll bite. New motherboard? --- Even if you're never gonna play Warhammer Online, watch this.
Crag naCron	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:47:00 - [5] So the third memory stick is 512MB 400MHz DDR? I didn't understand for certain, but you were able to boot using the new 400MHz stick and one of the old 333MHz sticks? I'm not certain, but mixing memory speeds (frequencies), e.g. 333MHz and 400MHz, may be the problem.
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Crag naCron So the third memory stick is 512MB 400MHz DDR? I didn't understand for certain, but you were able to boot using the new 400MHz stick and one of the old 333MHz sticks? I'm not certain, but mixing memory speeds (frequencies), e.g. 333MHz and 400MHz, may be the problem. No i can boot using any combination of 2 of the 3 sticks - the 400mhz RAM works fine i'am using it at the moment. The problem seems to arise from either using 3 sticks or using the 3rd slot itself! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Elliot Reid	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Elliot Reid on 01/06/2006 22:02:50 Now as far as I'm aware when you use DDR memory (double data rate) you have to have matching pairs. I think you could use 1 and it wouldn't be running as DDR but if you have 2 then you need an even number of sticks so I think you might need 4 in total. Again I'm not 100% on this so I may be wrong. Hope that helps. ________________________________________________________ In space no one can hear you scream unless you have voice comms
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Elliot Reid Now as far as I'm aware when you use DDR memory (double data rate) you have to have matching pairs. I think you could use 1 and it would be running as DDR but if you have 2 then you need an even number. Hope that helps. My motherboard only has 3 memory slots. I'am currently using a 333 and 400mhz module while typing this, which clearing isnt matching. one of the old 333 modules is sitting by my side waiting to be used! I firmly believe the problem lies with the 3rd slot. please i need some help here. Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Kurren	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:08:00 - [9] Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:10:46 Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:09:22 The third memory slot is generally Single Sided RAM only. It can still be DDR... in fact, it has to be... it just also has to be single sided RAM. Most shops will offer them in a different selection of RAM. They'll have it divided into "Dual Sided" and "Single Sided." But, yeah... if you're using 333 then the MB is probably old enough for me to be correct. <sarcasm>Also... upgrade to DDR 400. I didn't know you could still GET 333. </sarcasm> ALSO! The DDR must match as well as the RAM's latency. All sticks must be either DDR 333 or DDR 400. You cannot have different types. ALSO! The MB could just be so old that the slot is FUBARDed. Which, after wasting money trying to accomplish the first two things I've said... is generally the "show back up at the store really f-n **ed" stage. --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com**
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:14:00 - [10] Edited by: Scorpyn on 01/06/2006 22:17:22 The BE7 does not support more than 333 MHz memory. It should still work at a lower speed, but apparently it's not working properly for you. I had a similar problem a while ago, I had to get a new memory. Try to replace the 400MHz memory stick with a 333MHz one. I can't find anything about memory problem fixes in the bios updates, but there is a slight chance that a bios update could fix it aswell. ____________________ 45545555555555555555
Kurren	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Scorpyn The BE7 does not support more than 333 MHz memory Then get a new motherboard, mate. Might even go for the whole shabang and upgrade the entire computer! WOO!! Problem (usually) solved!! --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Kurren Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:10:46 Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:09:22 The third memory slot is generally Single Sided RAM only. It can still be DDR... in fact, it has to be... it just also has to be single sided RAM. Most shops will offer them in a different selection of RAM. They'll have it divided into "Dual Sided" and "Single Sided." But, yeah... if you're using 333 then the MB is probably old enough for me to be correct. <sarcasm>Also... upgrade to DDR 400. I didn't know you could still GET 333. </sarcasm> ALSO! The DDR must match as well as the RAM's latency. All sticks must be either DDR 333 or DDR 400. You cannot have different types. ALSO! The MB could just be so old that the slot is FUBARDed. Which, after wasting money trying to accomplish the first two things I've said... is generally the "show back up at the store really f-n ****ed" stage. I have been using this 333mhz for over 2 years now. Which is besides the point! You state that i cannot use both 333 and 400 at the same time. Yet as i have said before i'am currently running both a 333 and a 400 modules at the moment. I did this to test wether there was something wrong with the 400 mhz module i bought. There doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it. Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Scorpyn Edited by: Scorpyn on 01/06/2006 22:15:12 The BE7 does not support more than 333 MHz memory. It should still work at a lower speed, but apparently it's not working properly for you. I had a similar problem a while ago, I had to get a new memory. Try to replace the 400MHz memory stick with a 333MHz one. Yup the 400mhz memory just defaults to the slowest stick there the 333mhz that is currently in my system. I knew i would not have problem with that aspect of it. Getting all three to work together however has proven to be more than difficult! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Kurren Originally by: Scorpyn The BE7 does not support more than 333 MHz memory Then get a new motherboard, mate. Might even go for the whole shabang and upgrade the entire computer! WOO!! Problem (usually) solved!! Not an option until DX10 nad Vista is released buying a new PC is completely pointless in my book. Besides i can run any game that is currently on the market! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:19:00 - [15] 1. Go to ABIT website, upgrade your current motherboard BIOS to latest BIOS. Upgrade at your own risk. 2. Try 3 RAM chips. 3. Not working, use 1 RAM chip. Boot, go to BIOS, force DRAM manual clock timing to 333. 4. Try 3 RAM chips. 5. Report what you find? Ta. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:21:00 - [16] Perhaps it could be because they all run at 333 MHz but at differt cas timings etc? ____________________ 45545555555555555555
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 1. Go to ABIT website, upgrade your current motherboard BIOS to latest BIOS. Upgrade at your own risk. 2. Try 3 RAM chips. 3. Not working, use 1 RAM chip. Boot, go to BIOS, force DRAM manual clock timing to 333. 4. Try 3 RAM chips. 5. Report what you find? Okay i'am on it! If i dont post back soon it is because my Comp has belly up'd Ta. Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Kurren	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Lluthiunne Atalaron Originally by: Kurren Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:10:46 Edited by: Kurren on 01/06/2006 22:09:22 The third memory slot is generally Single Sided RAM only. It can still be DDR... in fact, it has to be... it just also has to be single sided RAM. Most shops will offer them in a different selection of RAM. They'll have it divided into "Dual Sided" and "Single Sided." But, yeah... if you're using 333 then the MB is probably old enough for me to be correct. <sarcasm>Also... upgrade to DDR 400. I didn't know you could still GET 333. </sarcasm> ALSO! The DDR must match as well as the RAM's latency. All sticks must be either DDR 333 or DDR 400. You cannot have different types. ALSO! The MB could just be so old that the slot is FUBARDed. Which, after wasting money trying to accomplish the first two things I've said... is generally the "show back up at the store really f-n **ed" stage. I have been using this 333mhz for over 2 years now. Which is besides the point! You state that i cannot use both 333 and 400 at the same time. Yet as i have said before i'am currently running both a 333 and a 400 modules at the moment. I did this to test wether there was something wrong with the 400 mhz module i bought. There doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it. Well, the DDR 400 will only run at DDR 333 speed. It's there, but not at full capacity. Thus, you're not supposed to do it. Lots of motherboards won't even let you (the one's I'm familiar with). Even still, that third slot is probably Single Sided RAM only OR just plain broken. Try blowing on it like you would the original NES video game cartridges. Maybe there's just a lot of dust in there. BUT, the MB is still really old. If it's max support is DDR 333... it's a pretty damned old model. You probably won't find any BIOS or driver upgrades for it, but you can try. Originally by:** Lluthiunne Atalaron I have been using this 333mhz for over 2 years now. Which is besides the point! I'm only here to help. Sorry if any of it offends you --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:50:00 - [19] okay, it seems i have 2 double sided 333 chips. But the 1 400mhz chip is single sided ??? Should i have a double sided 400mhz as well? When i have the two 333 chips in the first two banks and the 400 in the last bank the machine doesnt even get through post it freezes while checking the RAM? In the BIOS the only RAM options i see are too adjust there timing the two main options are A) Manually select the options B) select by spd (speed) which automatically selects the options. Checking the ABIT website i have found afew up to date drivers. However upon looking through there revision notes I see only simple changes additions mainly to do with temperature control ect. Very little really! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
St Dragon	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Negative Nancy Buy 2 1 Gig sticks and use the first 2 slots? Thats assuming the motherbourd can support 2 gig. ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:01:00 - [21] Originally by: St Dragon Originally by: Negative Nancy Buy 2 1 Gig sticks and use the first 2 slots? Thats assuming the motherbourd can support 2 gig. It can! Can anyone else give me some info? im searching the net at the moment while typing these and im finding nothing helpful Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
LLucan Dleaur	Posted - 2006.06.02 04:41:00 - [22] Well, I have always made sure that I never mixed dissimilar sticks of memory in my systems. Often, it won't make a difference, but then I have seen your situation too often to ignore the chance. Sometimes, certain MB/memory combinations can't run stable if the memory sticks are not completely identical. It is not just DDR-333 vs DDR-400, it is also CAS latency, and every other spec. It is a pain, but something which can't be avoided. As some have suggested, try upgrading the BIOS in the off-chance that helps. You have already tried all the combinations of memory arrangements, so beyond those options, you could replace your MB or buy a matching stick of memory identical to other two. Unfortunately from experience, you WILL have to spend money one way or the other, and it will probably be difficult if not impossible to get an identical 3rd stick now. If I were you, I would return the new stick if I could, and buy a new 1GBx2 package of Corsair/Kingston/whatever quality brand you prefer, and use that until you are ready to build a new PC 2nd half '07.
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.02 06:19:00 - [23] Seems like the way to go - im off to the store after work today! Shame i didnt work! sigh Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Avon	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:11:00 - [24] It may be a simple as manually setting the ram speed in the BIOS to match the slowest stick, and not letting the BIOS set the ram by SPD. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Iconath	Posted - 2006.06.02 18:48:00 - [25] Edited by: Iconath on 02/06/2006 18:56:51 Edited by: Iconath on 02/06/2006 18:53:30 Your problem is that you can't have 3 DDR sticks that are 333 or higher on that MB. This is from the specs # Three 184-pin DIMM sockets (unbuffered Non-ECC DIMM) # Supports 2 DIMM DDR 333 (Max. 2GB) # Supports 3 DIMM DDR 200/266 (Max. 2GB) ps: Do I still get the cash for solving the mystery? You can only have 200/266 in the third slot. You might be able to get a 266 in the third slot but even if it did work the MB would underclock the 333's so they match. Sorry bro. Originally by: Wrangler I think there's beer involved. Inebriation / Rank 1 / SP: 255993 of 256000
Lluthiunne Atalaron	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:13:00 - [26] I was just going too post that i found this out today while at work! When i got home i tried underclocking the RAM - didnt have any effect :( EVE refused too load and games and 3d software were taking an age to load! Technically there was no solution to the problem but you clearly went out your way to help solve this. So the iskies are yours. You'll find them in your wallet tonight some time. Thanks for your time! Whats your hurry? Everyone will have his day to die. If you choose to pull the trigger! Should your drama prove sincere. Do it somewhere far away from here!!
Iconath	Posted - 2006.06.03 01:39:00 - [27] Edited by: Iconath on 03/06/2006 01:43:43 Edited by: Iconath on 03/06/2006 01:42:35 Thank you for the ISK's, you Mam are a lady of your word. If you have any more problems, you get free advice for a month, just send Iconath an evemail. 15 years if IT experience finally payed off Originally by: Wrangler I think there's beer involved. Inebriation / Rank 1 / SP: 255993 of 256000
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:07:00 - [28] Originally by: Lluthiunne Atalaron Hey folks im having a bit of a headache with my comp at the moment! Ill cut straight to the chase and give you the spec etc - ill give up 25million to whoever solves this problem for me! SPEC: P4 2.6ghz ABIT BE7 motherboard 2x512mb 333mhz DDR I'm attempting to add another 512mb stick in the third slot. It did not work. The machine failed to boot. I altered the positions of the three chips trying every possible permutation. The machine would then boot but recognise only 1gb of RAM and restart the machine while loading windows. The chip itself is 400mhz DDR and is functioning perfectly as i have since took a stick out of the 3rd slot. The problem as far as i'am aware is the computer not recognising ANY stick placed in the third slot. Is there an option within the BIOS ??? Do i have to mess with jumpers ??? Is there another explanation ??? Ill forward the iskies to anyone who can help me solve this prob! - please help! Can your Motherboard support oer 1 gig of RAM? Is the new stick the same kind as the other 2 sticks? Might I suggest building an AMD computer?
Iconath	Posted - 2006.06.03 08:23:00 - [29] Sorry Malthros I figured it out. Thanks again Lluthiunne, and just shoot me an evemail if you have anymore problems. Originally by: Wrangler I think there's beer involved. Inebriation / Rank 1 / SP: 255993 of 256000

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