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Esab
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Posted - 2006.06.02 13:29:00 -
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After reading a few posts on this forum I can see that there is a potential opening for running a POS in empire space that is purely set up with laboratorys.
Unfortunatly im not in a position to set one up in empire but 'I know someone who can'
From what ive read and also from a little time messing on the test server I can see that people can use these labs via any station in the system that the POS is in.
I have also read some conflicting reports as to what can and cant be done so if someone could answer the following questions it would be much appreciated.
1) Am I right in thinking a large POS can run 15 mobile labs?
2) Are these labs and subsequent slots available to everyone in system? (I have seen the settings on test server but dont fully understand what does what or if they actually work)
3) Any costs I set on the labs are payable by whoever uses them into my corp/personal wallet? (Ive read conflicting reports on this saying only if in same alliance etc)
4) If someone uses the labs for copying do the copys remain in the station they are in? (I have read that copies appear at POS)
5) Would any of you pilots out there actually be interested in renting said slots if they were to become available?
6) Where would you reccomend that such a POS was built? (Any empire sytem up to the 0.7 limit is possible)
If anyone can clear up any of these questions it would be great because I see so many conflicting opinions and its a big expense to lay out to find that some or all of the major parts of this wont work.
Many thanks.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.06.02 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Shar Tegral on 02/06/2006 15:01:53
Going to answer some of these as I've tested some of this out myself.  Quote:
1) Am I right in thinking a large POS can run 15 mobile labs?
It depends on the racial control tower. Caldari would be the way to go for this... it will leave you room for nothing else. (And don't think a POS is safe just becuase it is hi sec!) Quote:
2) Are these labs and subsequent slots available to everyone in system? (I have seen the settings on test server but dont fully understand what does what or if they actually work)
To my knowledge, you can not make the slots publicly available. They are only available to corp mates and alliance mates. This is per settings mind you. Alliance usage has a variety of limitations... well so does corp usage. Copy Slots: Copies made of T1 bpo's will be delivered into the Mobile Lab it is researched at. For Corp mates this -might- be a problem, for Alliance mates it IS a problem. (Accessibility issues and Trust on both parties) T2 Research: Major complications as T2 research requires materials. The materials for the research =must= be at the mobile laboratory in question or the research can not be done. This is, as it stands, an impossibility for alliance mates unless you allow open usage of the pos to select alliance mates. (And I haven't tried this out successfully yet!) Quote:
3) Any costs I set on the labs are payable by whoever uses them into my corp/personal wallet? (Ive read conflicting reports on this saying only if in same alliance etc)
Refer to usage allowed. Quote:
4) If someone uses the labs for copying do the copys remain in the station they are in? (I have read that copies appear at POS)
Refer to Copy Slots. Quote:
5) Would any of you pilots out there actually be interested in renting said slots if they were to become available?
Refer to ME Panic Threads all over forums Quote:
6) Where would you reccomend that such a POS was built? (Any empire sytem up to the 0.7 limit is possible)
Unless you are in an alliance that is willing to utilize the facility within the limitations that currently exist.. not really. It's a luxury toy for people with isk to burn. The lab research time "bonus" is very nice indeed... and tempting. But the logistics of running a small personal Mobile lab is manageable whereas running a more grandoise facility can be a proportional challenge. Hope this helps. PS: Any one else with some experience in this is free to correct me. Just please give details along with the correction.
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Esab
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Posted - 2006.06.02 15:19:00 -
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Thanks Shar
I couldnt have wished for a better reply. Damn shame that they cant be rented out to the general public because I see a lot of potential for them.......oh well..best look for something else to do !
Thanks for taking the time to answer in such a decent way
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.06.02 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Esab
I couldnt have wished for a better reply. Damn shame that they cant be rented out to the general public because I see a lot of potential for them.......oh well..best look for something else to do !
I can see public use being even more problematic then the potential benefit from rent would seem. Most especially in the way of Self Targetting: Anyone who makes such an investment publicly known is soon to be the lastest publicized hostage. This is not to mention the troubles with copy deliveries and t2 research as well. Public use "sounds" great. But in the end the public sucks and in turn so would public use. PS: I'm not cynical at all. No... Really! 
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.03 16:20:00 -
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public use would be awesome
"come one come all use my t2 research slots!"
(2 days later)
"oh sorry someone came and blew up the POS" *hides t2BPO behind back*
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Ashvul
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Posted - 2006.06.03 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
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2) Are these labs and subsequent slots available to everyone in system? (I have seen the settings on test server but dont fully understand what does what or if they actually work)
To my knowledge, you can not make the slots publicly available. They are only available to corp mates and alliance mates. This is per settings mind you. Alliance usage has a variety of limitations... well so does corp usage.
Copy Slots: Copies made of T1 bpo's will be delivered into the Mobile Lab it is researched at. For Corp mates this -might- be a problem, for Alliance mates it IS a problem. (Accessibility issues and Trust on both parties)
T2 Research: Major complications as T2 research requires materials. The materials for the research =must= be at the mobile laboratory in question or the research can not be done. This is, as it stands, an impossibility for alliance mates unless you allow open usage of the pos to select alliance mates. (And I haven't tried this out successfully yet!)
T2 research is only possible for the corp, doesn't matter if the alliance is able to completely access your POS, they do not have the same corp hangar, and therefor can not use it for anything requiring materials.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.06.03 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ashvul
T2 research is only possible for the corp, doesn't matter if the alliance is able to completely access your POS, they do not have the same corp hangar, and therefor can not use it for anything requiring materials.
That is what I was thinking would be the case. I'm also thinking that copying is going to be problematic as well for alliance mates as where do the copies get delivered?
So atm I only forsee that me and pe slots for t1 are of any use within the alliance. After that you'll need to handle the researches yourself. Still not a bad way to do things -if- people trust you.
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Ashvul
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Posted - 2006.06.03 21:32:00 -
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yeah, copying is delivered to the array itself, so the copies would have to be picked up by the corp that ran the pos.
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Helinao
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Posted - 2006.06.04 14:42:00 -
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Am i reading this right?
You put up a pos keep the org bpo in a npc base and make copys vire the pos? 
Or does the bpo actually have to be in the pos? 
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Marcus Tedric
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Helinao
Am i reading this right?
You put up a pos keep the org bpo in a npc base and make copys vire the pos?
Or does the bpo actually have to be in the pos?
AFIAK the BPO can be in an NPC station in the same system.
However, if you need materials to do the research (as with T2) then they must be in the POS.
If you make copies of said BPO - they will be delivered in the POS.
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Jade Judd
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:16:00 -
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For research from station NPC to POS i need some specific skill?
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Big Al
Free Manure Ask Me How
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:04:00 -
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Scientific Networking level 1 if the station and pos are in the same system
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Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.09.09 00:14:00 -
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Question...
I recently jumped my main corp to set up a pos in Empire. Now beforw the other corp, (my first one) had over 8.9 standing with Caldari. There was 3-4 ppl in this corp at the time.
Then I went to my main corp. Ive built my sec status up even further, run a few missions when i was in empire shopping etc.
Now, the question..
I came back to empire to set up corp. Im the only one in it. I should have even better standing then my orginal corp, but its no where near what it was...
Is there some time delay for my standings to be "inherited" by my new, one person corp? The day I created I had no standing. I did some stuff to prepare and logged off. The next day I have standings in Lai Dai and caldari, but in the 2-3 range. Does this take time to "Grow"??
thx in advance
Kaaii
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Marcus Tedric
Gallente
Tedric Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.09.09 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
Question...
Is there some time delay for my standings to be "inherited" by my new, one person corp? The day I created I had no standing. I did some stuff to prepare and logged off. The next day I have standings in Lai Dai and caldari, but in the 2-3 range. Does this take time to "Grow"??
thx in advance
Kaaii
Yes it does. Can take several days, if not weeks to get to the average. This even happens after one member gets a Faction Standing gain - it takes a while for the Corp standing to re-average.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.09.09 11:15:00 -
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And I have found after doing this 3 times, that you NEED to run an important mission with the faction in order to jumpstart the standings. else they will never move.
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larann
Gallente
Paralex Research
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Posted - 2006.09.09 11:26:00 -
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this kind of info needs a sticky, at least for a while. its a very common question. if its not already provided somewhere ofc
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