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Madison Kaane
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.25 15:12:00 -
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Hi all,
So I have tried the trial at least 3 times, but have not been able to get by the tutorial as I found it very elongated. But I am determined to see it through this time. So I have a few questions that i hope you guys might be able to help me out with.
My immediate plans are to save enough ISK to purchase a decent pvp ship as I want to pirate, is pirating a viable career?
Is there any corps that will take on an absolute noob pilot?
What is the best ship to purchase to start out as a pirate?
Starting out in EVE now- am I actually too far behind? Not that I want to be some elite player, but with a game that is 10 years old I am worried I might never catch up to the better player.
Thanks in advance for any pointers that you give. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2014.05.25 15:32:00 -
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Madison Kaane wrote:
My immediate plans are to save enough ISK to purchase a decent pvp ship as I want to pirate, is pirating a viable career?
If you define viable carrer (a very very loose term) as a profitable profession, then yes it is viable in general. It heavily depends on the pilot ofc. As a very new player you will most likely not succeed.
Madison Kaane wrote:
Is there any corps that will take on an absolute noob pilot?
There are plenty, you can find them in the right section here on this forum.
Madison Kaane wrote:
What is the best ship to purchase to start out as a pirate?
There is no best ship/fitting/module in EVE. You have to understand how the game mechanics work and pick your tools depending on the situation or target.
Madison Kaane wrote:
Starting out in EVE now- am I actually too far behind? Not that I want to be some elite player, but with a game that is 10 years old I am worried I might never catch up to the better player.
Since there is no real competition for EVE on this planet, we can assume that EVE is here to stay for another 10 years. Any player that will start playing the game after you did, will be behind you -- in terms of skillpoints. The avg. char is about 2 month old, so it wont take you long to get ahead. That being said, after a few weeks in game player skills becomes the dominant factor. If you make sure to pick your target you can defeat players that are in the game for 8 years. Since I'm playing for 9 years, you still have to fear me ofc.
Quite frankly, you are doing it wrong. You are making plans with very little knowledge of what's ahead of you. If you like the game and it "feels right" to you, join an active corp that doesn't hide just because the enemy is overwhelming. Ask for a killboard link and check if they lose and kill ships in your timezone. Recruiters can lie, killboards tend not to.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain. |
Madison Kaane
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.25 15:38:00 -
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Thanks a million, some great info there and will take it on board. Much appreciated |
Ethikos
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.05.25 17:12:00 -
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First, welcome back!
As to your questions, it depends on what you mean by pirate. Typically you make money as a pirate by selling off the loot of the ships you destroy, or by ransoming someone you catch before you destroy them. To do this, you need to fly cheap ships and out fly your targets. This way if you explode its not an issue and the loot you gain pays for more ships.
Ship wise, if your starting out T1 Frigates are your friend. They are very viable as a PvP ship, cheap, and will give you a good overview of the different tactics you will see (armor, shield, missile, blaster, e war, etc). Download EFT (program that lets you test out ship fits offline) and play around with them.
Honestly if I was in your shoes with those goals, I would do the following. First run through the tutorials. They are invaluable for teaching you all the basics in regards to user interface and how to play the game. Play through the Sister of EvE mission arc. It will give you some decent ISK and a good overview of the game environment. At that point, go check out EvE University. It is geared around taking in new players and teaching them the game. Go to their classes, learn the basics of PvP, go on EvE Uni fleets etc. Then if you want to go hard core PvP, there are feeder corporations for some of the best PvP corps out there that will take newer pilots with good killboard activity (ie playing the game) and see if they are a good fit. If you have any questions, let me know! 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=266074 - Sniggwaffe (Waffles)
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Madison Kaane
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.25 19:15:00 -
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Thanks Ethikos, some great info here. Might actually stick it out this time :) |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
3657
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Posted - 2014.05.25 20:20:00 -
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Post-o-useful-links-and-stuff:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1263560#post1263560
Crimewatch - important to know about for would-be pirates:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4459736#post4459736
And a funny:
http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20060823-d025d.jpg
Feel free to post questions here, or EVE-mail me if you prefer. |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
585
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Posted - 2014.05.25 20:21:00 -
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Let me share something with you real quick.
I first got interested in Eve in 2006. I did the trial like four times in a row. But instead of talking to people about it, I decided on my own to stop playing. My reason was simple. By that time the game was two years old. I would never match those guys who were playing since the beginning. Two years of skillpoints over me seemed like alot. Jump forward to January 2012 when I finally subbed....man. If only I started back in 2006!
Moral of the story is, yeah, there will always be people with more skillpoints than you. But so what? Play and enjoy the game! You will be celebrating your first year anniversary in no time and helping new people discover Eve in 2015 and beyond! |
Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.26 01:43:00 -
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Low Skill points aren't that big disadvantage... and you can catch up to veterans quickly...
Take the Frigate skill, Train it to 5, you now have exactly the same skill points in Frigates as a veteran...
They may scatter your frigate to the solar wind, but that is because they have practised and know the mechanics...
Skills get you to the point where you can undock in a ship fit the way you want it, speced the way you want it.
After that its knowledge... earned through paying attention and wondering why you are back in your medical clone.
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2961
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Posted - 2014.05.26 02:49:00 -
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There's three main acts that you could loosely term piracy in EVE.
1) Lowsec ransoming. This really does not pay well as most people assume you are going to dishonor the ransom and will refuse to pay, and the loot you get for killing them is not much, plus most prey can only be caught on gates which means you need a ship that can survive gate guns as well as catch prey. Nullsec offers less opportunities as most alliances will take a dim view of anyone demanding ransoms in 'their' space and all of nullsec has some permanent residents now.
2) Highsec AWOXing. This is joining corps shortterm to shoot the corp's members (usually in highsec) and hold expensive ships ransom. Very effective against mining corporations, where you can ransom Orcas (a 650m ISK ship that usually is fit without meaningful defenses), then drop corporation without any filthy marks on your killboard. This is newbie-friendly but you might need an ally providing remote repairs and remote capacitor boosting.
3) Corp theft. Not quite traditional piracy but quite similar. Highest time investment in each project, most potential payoff.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Sibyyl
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.05.26 07:59:00 -
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A cheap PVP frigate should run you 1-2 million. It's not necessary that you get a particularly expensive ship, but it is a good idea to have a replacement or two if you get blapped.
Travel to exotic solar systems, meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and strip ore from their ship hulls. Join BOVRL.
Blood Miners take SOV.-á |
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ISD Atomic Dove
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.26 09:42:00 -
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Anything you can do in this game, you can do better with friends. Much of this games selling point is it's player interactions.
Many people will take on completely green pilots and teach them everything for free, find a group that works for you. If they aren't want you want, part ways happily and find one that is 
ISD Atomic Dove
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Trevor Dalech
Adeptus Assassinorum
Silent Eviction
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Posted - 2014.05.26 21:34:00 -
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One of my very first solo kills, I was only a few months old, was on a player 4 or 5 years older than me. I was flying a heron (not your typical pvp ship, but I had a point fit just in case) and he was trying to gank me while I was hacking a site.
His mistake...
Knowing how to fit your ship, and knowing when to run and when to fight, are more valuable skills than any amount of skill points.
The main tip I can give you is to fly something you can lose a lot. Always make sure you have several backup ships nearby, because you WILL get blown up... A lot! |
Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
598
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Posted - 2014.05.26 21:55:00 -
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As all the ideas above suggest, piracy is a very flexable concept in Eve. Piracy the more role focused goal or piracy the life blood of Eve which is more killing everything one can find to kill.
Many of us have other things that we do to make money that are not piracy. I for instance do some industry, some exploration and combat stuff, and run a market to make my ISK. I've been a part of few ransoms in my time.
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