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Orion Maelstrom
Overdrive Industries
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Posted - 2014.05.26 03:44:00 -
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Invited James Saagh today after an interview. Within a few minutes he joined our mining group and went right after our Orca and mining barges. He did manage to get multiple kills due to this tacktic. Somewhat my fault for not checking more on his char.
Irregarless guy is a scumbag and not worth anyones looking.
https://zkillboard.com/character/94378443/ |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
699
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Posted - 2014.05.26 04:18:00 -
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Welcome to C&P.
We hope you will enjoy your stay here, and all questions must be filled out in triplicate.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2014.05.26 04:20:00 -
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Thanks for "irregarless" and a T1 fit Orca lossmail.
Please keep us updated on your misadventures. |

Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2014.05.26 06:58:00 -
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Clearly James Saagh saw serious vulnerability in your security and decided, quite rightly, that you needed a wakeup call. Such dedication and loyalty to a corp he'd only just joined is a rare thing indeed. Consider the damage a real thief/awoxer could have done. I think you owe him an apology a maybe a generous severance payment as a thank you. |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
154

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Posted - 2014.05.26 07:15:00 -
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From the Crime & Punishment Rules post:
Quote:The posting of killmails is permitted, however following criteria must be met:
a) The name of the victim must be removed or covered up b) The killmail must be posted along with constructive text/content. This means no posting new threads with simply a killmail in it without a comment. c) The killmail must be posted directly into the post and may not be a link to a third-party site.
Please edit your post accordingly, thanks! ISD Supogo Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Dave Stark
6010
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Posted - 2014.05.26 07:17:00 -
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Orion Maelstrom wrote:Somewhat my fault for not checking more on his char.
wrong. it's not somewhat your fault.
it's ENTIRELY your fault. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2963
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Posted - 2014.05.26 07:52:00 -
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There is a backstory to this that is worth knowing.
OP had it coming and got exactly what they deserved.
I will let Mr Saagh decide whether or not to explain this backstory to interested readers, but let me say this: OP was not a random victim. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |

Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Woodchoppers Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.05.26 08:04:00 -
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Awh man, Sabriz you can't leave it like that. I do hope Saagh finds it in his heart to share. |

Sexy McLovin
Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionares de Pereza Dank Dunks
4
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Posted - 2014.05.26 09:13:00 -
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Sabriz please. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18440
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Posted - 2014.05.26 09:33:00 -
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Awoxing, pentesting in space. OP review your recruitment process before Psychotic Monk does it for you.
Nil mortifi sine lucre Never go full Ripard |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
714
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Posted - 2014.05.26 11:13:00 -
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The initial greetings as the new member joins the mining group....the disarray and alarm as things turn sour....how things can change within the space of a few minutes  Concord Approved Trader |

Ailwynn
Office Of Tactical And Strategic Services
0
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Posted - 2014.05.26 11:37:00 -
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Christian Lionbate wrote:Clearly James Saagh saw serious vulnerability in your security and decided, quite rightly, that you needed a wakeup call. Such dedication and loyalty to a corp he'd only just joined is a rare thing indeed. Consider the damage a real thief/awoxer could have done. I think you owe him an apology a maybe a generous severance payment as a thank you.
lmfao |

Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1153
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Posted - 2014.05.26 11:39:00 -
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Battle Venture is OP - nerf battle Venture.
(Edit: please don't nerf battle venture.) www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |

Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1153
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Posted - 2014.05.26 11:41:00 -
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So Orion... did that Orca have a valid mining permit? www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |

Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:17:00 -
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It sounds like James has done your corp a great service. Its always best to open your eyes now when you have so little to lose, then to wait to learn this later. You should thank him and ask him if he has any advice for you to follow in the future to help avoid this issue. |

Captain Finklestein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:44:00 -
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hrhrhrpie Saidar Tarkand awox
There. Now they should show up when Google searched too. EDIT: Nope, lol. Also you should post up pics of the killmails... only an older AWOX is on zkill. It's just more financially viable for me. |

Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
134
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:49:00 -
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jxqed3POq2P7dn6dj84sd3PL5dUeL1hsTJXIDGhEcbQ/viewform
OP, can you fill out one of these for me please?
Should have bought a mining permit, see www.minerbumping.com for details Been ganked? Robbed? Space feelings hurt?-á Now there's something you can do! Fill out a Customer Service Comment Card!-á EIther that or contact everyone's favorite Space Detective for an instant ban! |

Captain Finklestein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.26 17:45:00 -
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There is an eve-live entry where someone claims they are AWOXers. A further look through the killboards confirms an in-corp kill involving the three. The problem is we could only link the other two to that single kill before this thread.
This could have been spun off any number of ways. Perhaps the Orca pilot was racist and insulting so they decided to kill him before they left. Perhaps the corp was planning on doing the same to them, so they figured it out and struck first. One corp kill in itself does not necessarily prove that the player has or will repeat AWOXs. An AWOXer can convince a (bad) CEO of this and gain entry into his corp.
This thread however serves as further proof of their AWOX potential. The two players named were involved in their AWOX with a third player (James), who is now being reported for AWOXing again in much of the same way. This is why I've recommended the OP posts an image of the killmail which would prove they are two seperate incidences. By linking James to a second AWOX it becomes much more unlikely that the first AWOX was anything different, thereby providing more proof against the two AWOXers mentioned.
Now let's play a game: How many times can we say AWOX in one post while staying completely relevant? It's just more financially viable for me. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2970
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Posted - 2014.05.26 21:48:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Battle Venture is OP - nerf battle Venture.
(Edit: please don't nerf battle venture.)
The battle Prospect is coming. All hail the 16m sigrad (with links/implants) battle prospect. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |

Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2014.05.27 00:20:00 -
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Captain Finklestein wrote:There is an eve-live entry where someone claims they are AWOXers. A further look through the killboards confirms an in-corp kill involving the three. The problem is we could only link the other two to that single kill before this thread.
This could have been spun off any number of ways. Perhaps the Orca pilot was racist and insulting so they decided to kill him before they left. Perhaps the corp was planning on doing the same to them, so they figured it out and struck first. One corp kill in itself does not necessarily prove that the player has or will repeat AWOXs. An AWOXer can convince a (bad) CEO of this and gain entry into his corp.
This thread however serves as further proof of their AWOX potential. The two players named were involved in their AWOX with a third player (James), who is now being reported for AWOXing again in much of the same way. This is why I've recommended the OP posts an image of the killmail which would prove they are two seperate incidences. By linking James to a second AWOX it becomes much more unlikely that the first AWOX was anything different, thereby providing more proof against the two AWOXers mentioned.
Now let's play a game: How many times can we say AWOX in one post while staying completely relevant?
All that would matter if stupid CEOs took the time to do backround checks on pilots to find out of they are awoxers. There is no 100% way to find out if someone will awox, but I find that most of my targets don't find out about who I am, even weeks later, until I show them what an awoxer is, more fun then that, is none of them have reported me on the forums yet, like it would matter anyway, they typically don't use killboards like zkillboard either. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2390
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Posted - 2014.05.27 06:21:00 -
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The most pressing interview question I got on any of my awox alts was whether or not I partake of the weed and if I didn't , how did I feel about those who did. I didn't see how that applied to my intention to blow up everything I could and steal everything that wasn't nailed down. While I am not a joker, a smoker, or a midnight toker, I sure don't want to hurt no one, so I said I was for the weed. Then I blew up everyone I could and took everything I could. If you get high or not is not my concern, only that you have the proper permits to fly in hisec while ripped.
"Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
592
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Posted - 2014.05.27 20:01:00 -
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Orion Maelstrom wrote:Somewhat my fault for not checking more on his char. Somewhat? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

James Saagh
Unicorns With Dicks for Horns
0
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Posted - 2014.05.27 20:13:00 -
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Hello everybody!
A couple of days ago I decided to revive this alt, seeing if I could find a fun target to strike against. Lo and behold, within 3 minutes of talking to their CEO I was invited.
I made my way to their system, saw that they had 2 procurers in a belt and an Orca on undock. I decided to buy a Venture and go "mining" with them. After like a minute in the belt the Orca comes in and sits at 0m/s.
Unable to resist this temptation I went to get my Gnosis and prompty killed the Orca and a Procurer aswell. Appearently they still wanted to fight and brought in a Deimos & Onyx to fight me.
Unfortunately we started fighting on a gate and I didn't have an AB, so even with my 3 neutral logi, CS boosts and Orca for refitting (All thanks to the wonderful BU) I couldn't get anymore kills from them...
So to all CEOs out there: Please do a background-check on potential recruits... Blindly accepting a new pilot AND bringing out the Orca within 5 min is not a smart idea.
Off to new adventures! Feel free to tip me if you'd like, teaching CEOs about security is a hard and thankless job... |

Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
9
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:36:00 -
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James Saagh wrote:Hello everybody!
A couple of days ago I decided to revive this alt, seeing if I could find a fun target to strike against. Lo and behold, within 3 minutes of talking to their CEO I was invited.
I made my way to their system, saw that they had 2 procurers in a belt and an Orca on undock. I decided to buy a Venture and go "mining" with them. After like a minute in the belt the Orca comes in and sits at 0m/s.
Unable to resist this temptation I went to get my Gnosis and prompty killed the Orca and a Procurer aswell. Appearently they still wanted to fight and brought in a Deimos & Onyx to fight me.
Unfortunately we started fighting on a gate and I didn't have an AB, so even with my 3 neutral logi, CS boosts and Orca for refitting (All thanks to the wonderful BU) I couldn't get anymore kills from them...
So to all CEOs out there: Please do a background-check on potential recruits... Blindly accepting a new pilot AND bringing out the Orca within 5 min is not a smart idea.
Off to new adventures! Feel free to tip me if you'd like, teaching CEOs about security is a hard and thankless job...
EDIT: Forgot to include the most important part. None of the miners in the corp had a permit. That **** won't fly.
Thank you for sharing your story, Your services are greatly appreciated and are presenting a great and honorable service to this community |

Ash Stewart
Minmatar Brotherhood
11
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Posted - 2014.05.29 21:06:00 -
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Boom Boom Longtime wrote:The initial greetings as the new member joins the mining group....the disarray and alarm as things turn sour....how things can change within the space of a few minutes 
You know.. miners should have been HAPPY at this new turn of events.
a boring day on the belt, interupted. I can't understand how anyone can mine for long periods anyway. There's nothing quite like an adrenaline rush.
OH.. and another thing.. always be prepared to warp out and be aligned ready to go.
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |

Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1211
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Posted - 2014.05.30 12:27:00 -
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If only my Security and Operations Consulting thread on reddit hadn't been downvoted to oblivion, this could have been avoided. This is-á a signature. |
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