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DrGreenthumbz
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:54:00 -
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Ok iam 28 years old and i work all day and cant play much time, specially to gather lots of money. But i still LOVE this game and specially the fact i dont have to stay "grinding" (or leveling up) so i can go up skills. The best feature of this game is SKILL PER TIME.
Now a problem for most of players like me that dont have physical time to play hours and hours every day is MONEY/CREDITS or ISK... game credits is a BIG problem cause you can level up your skills but you CANT buy good stuff without credits and, as far as i know, EVE Online do not provide selling services for ISK. That means, i can buy real money to change my picture or w/e but i cant buy ISK with real money so i can still have my good ship even if i cant play all day and gather millions.
So after all this bad english comes the question:
Am i right? EVE Online dont sell ISK? Do we have to go to black market (ebay and other) always to buy ISK?
If yes, iam sorry cause till now EVE ONline is being the BEST support i ever see in any mmorpg online.
Rasta
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 05/06/2006 11:57:38
Buying Isk with real money is against the EULA and will get you either warned or banned from Eve so don't do it.
You can however buy GTC (Game Time Cards) and then sell them for Isk ingame, same as buying Isk almost however CCP profit from this and so its allowed.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:56:00 -
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Buy GTC for $$, sell for isk. Ta da.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:56:00 -
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Anyone found buying or selling in game goods or isk for real life currency will have their accounts banned very quickly. Ther only legitimate way to do this is to buy a Game Time Card, and sell in over the forums in the Sell Orders section.
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R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:59:00 -
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Buy some time cards as above poster stated...
This can be sold on market forum and ccp will even ban ppl if they don't pay up! how good is that?
lucky rich guy grrr..
i much rather be rich in RL than in eve tbh
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wystler
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Posted - 2006.06.05 12:32:00 -
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Its much more satisfying if you work for your ISK instead of buying it via a game time card sale. Sure it takes longer, but when you break 100 mil for the first time off your own back you feel a real sense of achievement 
As has been said buying ISK or other items via an auction site or any other method is against the EULA and the GMs are very staunch on banning accounts for cheating via this or any other method. Its not worth the risk 
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Captain Jack
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Posted - 2006.06.05 12:59:00 -
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I may be wrong, but I've heard that you get banned if you actually SELL game goods for real life money. I am not sure about the part if you get banned for BUYING it. I guess you are, because that way you support those who SELL.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.06.05 13:09:00 -
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Getting isk by just buying GTC's for RL money and then selling those for isk is just as bad as ebaying impo, but it's allowed by ccp so that would be ur only legal option 
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Burlock Ironfist
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Posted - 2006.06.05 13:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Captain Jack
I may be wrong, but I've heard that you get banned if you actually SELL game goods for real life money. I am not sure about the part if you get banned for BUYING it. I guess you are, because that way you support those who SELL.
Its bannable to buy or sell with RL money for any ingame items / isk. except the above exception of GTC.
so if a isk for $$ seller gets caught and identified they can tract his history of who hes been transfering isk to and the get banned as well (probably)
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.06.05 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Getting isk by just buying GTC's for RL money and then selling those for isk is just as bad as ebaying impo, but it's allowed by ccp so that would be ur only legal option
Check the EULA - it's a bannable offence to buy or sell... it's considered cheating.
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2006.06.05 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sensor Error
Originally by: 000Hunter000
Getting isk by just buying GTC's for RL money and then selling those for isk is just as bad as ebaying impo, but it's allowed by ccp so that would be ur only legal option
Check the EULA - it's a bannable offence to buy or sell... it's considered cheating.
if you read the rest of the thread you would see that the reason this is allowed is because ccp profit from it when they sell the gtc so its legally ok. When people buy isk of ebay ccp dont profit so its not legal simple as that
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KennyRogers
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Posted - 2006.06.05 14:41:00 -
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quick solution, keep training skills and join a corp that is willing to loan you their corp goods till you eventually make enough money for yourself, just donate all rat droppings in drop box, your junk is someone elses treasure.
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Cudaya Ebsldes
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Posted - 2006.06.05 14:52:00 -
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I violently disagree with your premise. If making money is the problem then I suggest something along the lines of (and this is not the only one) this guide Linkage
I have found that the real ôproblemö is skills. You can pay thru the nose for named stuff, but you can achieve the same results with the proper skills and some t2 stuff.
I donÆt always play that much, yet I must say that one of the most satisfying experiences IÆve had to date is doing all (except one storyline lvl 2 that toasted me) lvl 2 missions in a lowly Kestrel frig, with no ab, only 4 bitty t1 light missile launchers, a shield expander and 2 passive hardeners, with the obligatory pduÆs.
I had trained for some other stuff and for that bitty frig all my skills were maxed out. I was amazed and it was really fun.
I hope you rethink your position.(or there is always manufacturing, the job that works while you sleep?)
But whatever, the best of luck.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.06.05 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 05/06/2006 15:34:15
What narks me about this situation is that CCP put out publicity about banning ebayers because in CCPs mind they're cheating and trying to get ahead without playing the game.
However the GTC situation allows is exactly the same thing. But this time CCP gets the money and behold its not cheating anymore.
Double standards based on the buck. Which is how I expect a company to operate. But if you allow GTCs take the resources away from banning accounts for ebaying and get them doing petitions or something.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.06.05 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 05/06/2006 15:44:05
Originally by: Cudaya Ebsldes
*snip*
I have found that the real ôproblemö is skills. You can pay thru the nose for named stuff, but you can achieve the same results with the proper skills and some t2 stuff.
*snip*
The problem is you can end up paying throught the nose for most T2 stuff as well. While Named stuff is expensive, some of it is actually better than T2, especially faction named items.
Making isk isn't really a problem. Even compared to just over a year ago when I started, it is far easier to make isk now. Casual players have more of a problem but in a couple of hours, I can rake in a fair few million isk just mining in highsec.
As for GTC, there are a finite number that can be sold in-game. Anyone who has done marketing knows you won't sell them indefinitetly and your market will dry up for at least a month if you flood it. When it comes to Ebay isk sales, it's infinite and affects the game and it's internal ecomony.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.06.05 15:52:00 -
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Buying ISK with real money is either cheating or its not regardless of how its done. One may damage the game more than the other but... CCPs line has always been we ban ebayers because they're cheating by buying their way ahead.
Punishing one and not the other is double standards. CCP need to say something like we ban ebayers becasue we don't get a cut of the money, buying your way in the game is fine.
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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:06:00 -
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Dr. Greenthumbz, you sir need to rethink. What possible enjoyment can you get out of buying your way through a game? Sure, people do it and I spit on all of them, but the world will always have its cheaters. I urge you to earn your ISK honourably, you can then be proud of your achievements. I've been here nearly three years now, have only ever had the one account and through clever thinking and teamwork have managed to earn over ten billion ISK plus assets. Play it straight, play it right and you'll prosper without cheating.
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Ilya Murametz
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 05/06/2006 16:20:57
Originally by: DrGreenthumbz
Ok iam 28 years old and i work all day and cant play much time, specially to gather lots of money. But i still LOVE this game and specially the fact i dont have to stay "grinding" (or leveling up) so i can go up skills. The best feature of this game is SKILL PER TIME.
Now a problem for most of players like me that dont have physical time to play hours and hours every day is MONEY/CREDITS or ISK... game credits is a BIG problem cause you can level up your skills but you CANT buy good stuff without credits and, as far as i know, EVE Online do not provide selling services for ISK. That means, i can buy real money to change my picture or w/e but i cant buy ISK with real money so i can still have my good ship even if i cant play all day and gather millions.
So after all this bad english comes the question:
Am i right? EVE Online dont sell ISK? Do we have to go to black market (ebay and other) always to buy ISK?
If yes, iam sorry cause till now EVE ONline is being the BEST support i ever see in any mmorpg online.
Rasta
How about we look at the problem from different way. Why do you need isk? to buy ships etc..
Join a corp that helps you with that, or even better provides ships/equipment.
This wonderful game is about TEAMWORK, not who has the most isk...
Sad to see that first severals replies give you an alternative on how to "cheat" instead of providing a solution 
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fto Cruise
Dr. Greenthumbz, you sir need to rethink. What possible enjoyment can you get out of buying your way through a game? Sure, people do it and I spit on all of them, but the world will always have its cheaters. I urge you to earn your ISK honourably, you can then be proud of your achievements. I've been here nearly three years now, have only ever had the one account and through clever thinking and teamwork have managed to earn over ten billion ISK plus assets. Play it straight, play it right and you'll prosper without cheating.
Thats a personal point of view thing. One way you get personal satisfaction the other is presenting an image to the outside world. Why cheat in any game?
Aimbots make you look 1337 to others nothing to do with satisfaction of the kill. Same as killboards, what difference does it make. So johnny 1337 has 1,435,8678,435 kills. Bobby alliance has 15 kills as part of a fleet and has successfully defended his area of 0.0. Public displays of acheivement is always to project an image to others to gain self worth.
The other way is to be proud of your achievements measured against your own goals and not others. Both are valid ways of achieving a warm glow inside. One way appears dull to some the other a little egocentric the two worlds will never meet.
What matters is whether CCP thinks one is cheating.
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:31:00 -
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Buy some game-time cards for EvE and sell them for isk on this forum. As it is at the moment, it is not against the rules and its pretty safe (make sure they deposit the Isk to your char before you give them the code), also dont try to scam people offering GTCs for isk and not giving the code, you will lose your game account (wtfban).
DO NOT buy Isk off auction sites or virtual currency selling sites, mainly because it is against the EULA and is bannable, also because they want your credit card details to pay for the currency.
Final note, you will feel like you have achieved more if you work for the isk yourself, but if you want the quick way do what i said above.
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Ender Wiggens
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:39:00 -
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Ok, since about 80 people just replied with pretty much the same answer, let me sum this all up for you
Buy ISK - Money = Banned
Buy ISK - Game Time Card = Loser
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.06.05 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 05/06/2006 16:50:58
Originally by: Ender Wiggens
Ok, since about 80 people just replied with pretty much the same answer, let me sum this all up for you
Buy ISK - Money = Banned
Buy ISK - Game Time Card = Loser
There are plenty of people who consider those who spent real time and effort to mindlessly grind out a fake currency losers. Current ISK gaining rate for people with access to common resources is 10m-20m per hour (you can reach 200-300m per hour if you mine 0.0 ores with 3 accounts though), so you will spend 5-10 hours of your life to do nothing but be able to afford a battleship.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.06.05 17:48:00 -
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You'll never convince the other side to agree.
What I want to know is when or if CCP will acknowledge the double standard. Or are they cashing in on the power players that come in buy everything then realise there is no more than the struggle and ship out again.
I can easily afford to buy a stack load of GTCs and buy myself every T2 BPO in the auctions.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.05 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fto Cruise
Dr. Greenthumbz, you sir need to rethink. What possible enjoyment can you get out of buying your way through a game? Sure, people do it and I spit on all of them, but the world will always have its cheaters. I urge you to earn your ISK honourably, you can then be proud of your achievements. I've been here nearly three years now, have only ever had the one account and through clever thinking and teamwork have managed to earn over ten billion ISK plus assets. Play it straight, play it right and you'll prosper without cheating.
^^Listen to him
P.S. Thanks for selling that 425mm Rail II on escrow ages ago, its made me very happy <3
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.06.05 18:07:00 -
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It is against the rules and you can bet that from now on your account will probably be watched for suspicious 'ISK activity' so I wouldn't do it if I were you.
The buying of ISK is also frowned upon (an understatement) by the community and will likely get you called 'scum' as well as other unsightly terms if found doing it and maybe even a war dec ingame with the purpose of making your game time a misery.
Generally this community hates ISK farmers and sellers.
Stop Whining!
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Raider Zero
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:25:00 -
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Game time cards for ISK is actually how the ISK sales sites are doing it if you ask me.
Websites: $20 US for 100M Isk
GTC: Not sure of actual cost, but ~ < $20 and sell for 115-130 ingame.
If you're going to pull ISK magic out of your hat, do it that way. Either that or invest in corporate theft ethically (form a corp, recruit and sit on 2% of everybody else's ISK) or unethically-join a rich corp, weasle your way to the top, rob your friends blind, create an alt and start out with all the isk you could ever want.
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Justicas Herror
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:37:00 -
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The double standard for GTC selling isnt as bad as some of you seem to think: Macroers are the ones who earn isk to sell for RL money. GTC selling maybe cheating in a way, but macroers are alot worse: they hoover up all the ore in empire, which some new people and some others will want to use. Macroing for money is worse than selling GTC to me.
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:51:00 -
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Macro miners are the ones that you cannot trust because they wanna make a buck out of anything. How do you know they won't abuse CC information or deliver as promised? If they break the EULA of an online game in order to earn money they are a very close call to being criminals.
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Francis Verdictio
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Posted - 2006.06.05 21:23:00 -
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Hmm, I wonder if the reverse could be true... Could you be paid in real $$$ for providing an in-game service?
Not a 'charfarming' or 23/7 miningslave service, but, say, a security service for an alliance or a corporation in 0.0. Patrolling, guarding, escorting... The boring stuff no-one really wants to do, but needs doing.
Would offering such a service be against the EULA too? I haven't gone through it with a fine enough comb to see.
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DrGreenthumbz
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Posted - 2006.06.06 02:10:00 -
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About the "Watchin for suspicious activities" no worries since i never wanted to break rules.
Originally by: Fto Cruise
Dr. Greenthumbz, you sir need to rethink. What possible enjoyment can you get out of buying your way through a game? Sure, people do it and I spit on all of them, but the world will always have its cheaters. I urge you to earn your ISK honourably, you can then be proud of your achievements. I've been here nearly three years now, have only ever had the one account and through clever thinking and teamwork have managed to earn over ten billion ISK plus assets. Play it straight, play it right and you'll prosper without cheating.
I am sorry if i did but i didnt mean to say i was going to buy ISK online. The thing i know is that it "is real" and ppl are doing that even in other games (duh really?).
EVE Online has one of the BEST services in lots of these mmorpgs out there and iam 100% fan.
Ah, about the whole "Milions" thing, well... i would be satisfied enough for a nice equiped manticore lol.
Anyway just wanted to bring the question again back to discussion since that to me is so hard to get time to money up ;~~
thnx for all anserings! 
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