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Oreh Anavrin
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Posted - 2006.06.06 01:40:00 -
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The character Rusty Rooster is a corp theif. He joined the corp yesterday and in our office at the edge of empire we have (had) a stockpile of basic mods and ammo new members could use to outfit ships before coming down to join us. Unfortunatly he emptied the hangers and left the corp. Nothing important lost really, this is just a warning to all future corps that might take him in, and also a request to make him KOS if you see him, corp theifs need to be taught a lesson. Thanks for your time!
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.06.06 01:41:00 -
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He's allready in a new corp
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Oreh Anavrin
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Posted - 2006.06.06 01:44:00 -
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Yes I know, his CEO has been contacted.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.06.06 01:52:00 -
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baby steps? lol
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2006.06.06 02:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin
The character Rusty Rooster is a corp theif. He joined the corp yesterday and in our office at the edge of empire we have (had) a stockpile of basic mods and ammo new members could use to outfit ships before coming down to join us. Unfortunatly he emptied the hangers and left the corp. Nothing important lost really, this is just a warning to all future corps that might take him in, and also a request to make him KOS if you see him, corp theifs need to be taught a lesson. Thanks for your time!
Provide proof before name and shame, because i say you are a corp thief too! (point is, its easy to say one's a corpthief).
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Marn Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.06.06 02:46:00 -
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Edited by: Marn Prestoc on 06/06/2006 02:47:29
Edited by: Marn Prestoc on 06/06/2006 02:46:52
How exactly do you provide proof? Since any screenshot of logs ect can be faked so nothing is conclusive as proof besides the history of the accuser and deciding if his word can be trusted.
I've known Oreh from other games and would take his word on this, he wouldn't "name and shame" someone without being sure the party involved was guilty.
Ta for the heads up.
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Emeline Cabernet
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Posted - 2006.06.06 03:02:00 -
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well getting the corp theif to take responsibility helps, screen shots of hangars too.
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Kannteir
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Posted - 2006.06.06 03:53:00 -
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A director/CEO's word that they guy infact did it is good enough for me. Everything else can be faked. If you don't believe me contact me.
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Oreh Anavrin
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Posted - 2006.06.06 03:58:00 -
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I could take a screenshot of the empty hangers, but what would that prove? But anyway, this is a cautionary warning, you can feel free to invite him into your corp if you wish  . If he wishes to dispute it then fine, but the fact is he joined, 2 hours later all the stuff was missing and he left almost exactly 24 hours after he joined without so much as a word (about leaving, he acted completely normal in corp chat). Not much else one can do but warn the community.
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Tequilapepper
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Posted - 2006.06.06 08:33:00 -
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What is point in faking a pic of hangar? or of Oreh to do false accusations to a new member of his corp that clearly shows quitted their corp recently?
Everybody knows FIX and Huzzah don't love eachother too much, but all I can read in this forum is a CEO sending a warning to other CEOs not to give this young char access to their resources because he is not trusted and for some reasons emptied his hangar. Pretty easy!
P.s. sorry for my poor english and my poor grammar, I'm tired and alomost asleep ;)
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Suppiluliumas
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Posted - 2006.06.06 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL
Provide proof before name and shame, because i say you are a corp thief too! (point is, its easy to say one's a corpthief).
Could be.
Why don't you invite Rusty Rooter into your organization and see how it works out? I'm sure he'll be a stellar addition.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.06 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin
The character Rusty Rooster is a corp theif. He joined the corp yesterday and in our office at the edge of empire we have (had) a stockpile of basic mods and ammo new members could use to outfit ships before coming down to join us. Unfortunatly he emptied the hangers and left the corp. Nothing important lost really, this is just a warning to all future corps that might take him in, and also a request to make him KOS if you see him, corp theifs need to be taught a lesson. Thanks for your time!
Provide proof before name and shame, because i say you are a corp thief too! (point is, its easy to say one's a corpthief).
Why would Oreh bother to make this stuff up, if the corp says this guy ripped them off the he ripped them off. Maybe you shoud recruit Rusty Rooster to find out for sure .
So Rusty Rooster looses his rep and the usability of his char for a few basic mods lol, what a nub.
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Huzzah Federation
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2006.06.06 21:03:00 -
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My point is, is way to easy to bring shame upon people you dont like. Evidence is hard to give indeed, but YOU learned from it and thats the point. Let other people find out themselves, because when naming and shaming is abused its no longer a valid thing to point out thieves.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2006.06.06 21:49:00 -
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Peer review helps too - Oreh is a good guy, if he says that this happened, its a sure bet it did. Thanks for passing it along.
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Sodhammer
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Posted - 2006.06.06 23:27:00 -
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although its too late at this time, the only way you can 'prove' a thief is if you get there very quick. As I recall (have not had these rights in awhile), you can look in (and drop into) a corpmates hanger (cant take). So when everything dissappeared, an officer needs to check all the local corp mate hangers for loot.
Assuming its a large amount of stuff (several industrials worth), its either going to still be in his hanger, or there is going to be a silly amount of minerals in his hanger, or he is going to have sell orders out for minerals at that station.
This all falls apart if this guy is simply an alt/buddy program account, and all the stuff was transferred to his main when it happened.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.06.07 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Audrea on 07/06/2006 06:37:47
Oreh is credible guy, if he says it happend - it happend.
for future reference, I would suggest to put stuff, even corp owned mods etc into dedicated secure audit containers (preferably station, as they cant be removed afaik).
Then if he steals, it will stay in logs of the audit can that he removed stuff at such and such hour.
Then you have a proof :)
EDIT: Of course, the problem is with outposts and conquerable stations, as those (last time i checked) still dont have those station containers seeded! I bug reported this months ago.. where are the devs? on vacation? 
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Cadiz
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Posted - 2006.06.07 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea
EDIT: Of course, the problem is with outposts and conquerable stations, as those (last time i checked) still dont have those station containers seeded! I bug reported this months ago.. where are the devs? on vacation?
Welcome to one of my two great Beautiful Dreams for EVE. Station containers in 0.0 - I don't really care how, just as long as I can have them - and the ability for corps to set standings to entire alliances at a time.
Because these are beautiful dreams that would go obscene distances towards making my life much easier and happier, they will never come to pass. 
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Kalil d'Maelstromo
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Posted - 2006.06.07 09:46:00 -
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Gutted Oreh. He's KOS ofcourse. At least there was f'all to take.
This could well turn out to be the least amount taken in a corp theft ever, the corp BM's weren't in there when I left and there was sod all else bar the odd named mod of value. What a nub.
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Anybody who demands a reach around is just a greedy bastich, if you ask me.
If you wanted satisfaction, you should have been on top.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.07 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Hans Roaming on 07/06/2006 12:55:31
Originally by: Cadiz
Originally by: Audrea
EDIT: Of course, the problem is with outposts and conquerable stations, as those (last time i checked) still dont have those station containers seeded! I bug reported this months ago.. where are the devs? on vacation?
Welcome to one of my two great Beautiful Dreams for EVE. Station containers in 0.0 - I don't really care how, just as long as I can have them - and the ability for corps to set standings to entire alliances at a time.
Because these are beautiful dreams that would go obscene distances towards making my life much easier and happier, they will never come to pass.
You have beautiful dreams my friend
My dreams are similar but include POS that take on alliance standings like the overview does.
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Huzzah Federation
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cpskatan
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Posted - 2006.06.07 13:23:00 -
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think i saw some escrows from this dude yesterday prolly your stuff |
Smith
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Posted - 2006.06.07 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL
My point is, is way to easy to bring shame upon people you dont like. Evidence is hard to give indeed, but YOU learned from it and thats the point. Let other people find out themselves, because when naming and shaming is abused its no longer a valid thing to point out thieves.
Must be your alt. You corp thieves have no class.
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2006.06.07 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Smith
Originally by: Pride NL
My point is, is way to easy to bring shame upon people you dont like. Evidence is hard to give indeed, but YOU learned from it and thats the point. Let other people find out themselves, because when naming and shaming is abused its no longer a valid thing to point out thieves.
Must be your alt. You corp thieves have no class.
You are so transparent.
Anyway, use audit containers or what they are called. They have logs as corp thieves is the purpose they serve. Thats likely the only hard evidence you can get.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.06.07 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL
Originally by: Smith
Originally by: Pride NL
My point is, is way to easy to bring shame upon people you dont like. Evidence is hard to give indeed, but YOU learned from it and thats the point. Let other people find out themselves, because when naming and shaming is abused its no longer a valid thing to point out thieves.
Must be your alt. You corp thieves have no class.
You are so transparent.
Anyway, use audit containers or what they are called. They have logs as corp thieves is the purpose they serve. Thats likely the only hard evidence you can get.
If only they logged people taking stuff out of them.......................
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Huzzah Federation
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2006.06.07 20:10:00 -
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I think there is 1 serie of containers that log WHAT you take at what TIME and how MANY. Im sure.
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Bernehs Trial
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Posted - 2006.06.08 01:51:00 -
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Margulus
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Posted - 2006.06.09 15:53:00 -
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Yes there are several types of station container that have logging capabilities. The purpose of them is to prevent precisely these kinds of issues, as you always have a permanent (well, a 30 day backlog) record of who is taking and even adding items. Leaving stuff just sitting in hangars is a bit of a liability, though most of us trust other members of our corporations to be honest about corporate property.
The other upside to the container approach is the ability to lock items down that you don't want removed without the need for a vote (anyone who lacks the "Configure Equipment" role won't be able to toch that item), and of course the organizational benefits 
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