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shaqarava	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:23:00 - [1] Edited by: shaqarava on 06/06/2006 06:24:17 It overheats liks a b***h, now more than ever cos it's summer time. Temperature goes up to 55 just by opening up a browser. Worst thing is I can't play EVE anymore. EVE adds 20 degrees when I open it up, and from there on my cpu just keeps getting hotter. I had 10 accounts. I can't even play one for more than 10 minutes without the stupid cpu overheating, curse AMD. I've had to cancel all my accounts, jsut finished cancelling the last one Pitty mee
Callisto Augustus	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:28:00 - [2] Can I have your stuff? AGIN is recruiting!
F'nog	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:35:00 - [3] It's normally 100+ degrees here during the day, and my AMD doesn't go above 100 unless I REALLY put it to the test. Have you tried using a better conductor between your CPU and HS? And have you tried a better HS? These should help you greatly and won't set you back much, especially if you can afford 10 accounts. Originally by: Panzer Goddess I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
Giant Haystacks	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:40:00 - [4] Originally by: shaqarava Edited by: shaqarava on 06/06/2006 06:24:17 It overheats liks a b***h, now more than ever cos it's summer time. Temperature goes up to 55 just by opening up a browser. Worst thing is I can't play EVE anymore. EVE adds 20 degrees when I open it up, and from there on my cpu just keeps getting hotter. I had 10 accounts. I can't even play one for more than 10 minutes without the stupid cpu overheating, curse AMD. I've had to cancel all my accounts, jsut finished cancelling the last one Pitty mee just switch off the temperature alerts. I had an amd 1700+ that idled at 65C, never actually burnt out.
Lori Carlyle	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:49:00 - [5] Watercooling 4TW! PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK ERISGREEN
Stallak Intar	Posted - 2006.06.06 06:56:00 - [6] Basically with adequete cooling and airflow your cpu should never overheat to dangerous levels. Once it reaches its maximum performance everything should just reach a peak (and not a stupidly high one). I had the same kind of thing with my current PC. With the addition of a different heatsink, better thermal paste and a nice new case everything is now fine Thermaltake Kandalf v9000 ftw. My CPU (AMD)never goes above 45 degrees now! When it was overheating it used to run at around 60-85 depending on load (I just turned off the annoying beeping that occured once it reached 60). This is of course assuming that you dont overclock!
spurious signal	Posted - 2006.06.06 07:04:00 - [7] Cancel 8 of your 10 accounts. Save the money you would have spent on those accounts for 2 months. Buy a new CPU & OEM cooler.
Vincent Rainbow	Posted - 2006.06.06 07:17:00 - [8] I used to get that sometimes, especially in summer, when the pc had been on all day. a few things I did which helped till I got a better system: 1: Grab a hoover, suck out all the dust from your heatsinks. 2: Take off your fan and add some more conductive paste stuff to the top of your cpu. 3: Check running processes using task manager and msconfig and get rid of anything u don't need 4: Buy a better fan or a watercooling system 5: Clean and polish your mains plug. 6: Add case fans 7: Lay your PC on its side, CPU facing up. This cools considerably more efficiently than upright. You might think I am mad, but do it - it works. If all else fails, grab a standard household fan, take the side panel off your pc and blow cold air directly into it.
Alekzander	Posted - 2006.06.06 07:49:00 - [9] check for dust in the heatsink fins, quickest fix for unusual high temps if the comp has been around for a while. Just blow it out with a can of compressed air, usually drops the temps a bit. My video cards with stock heatsinks were reaching 100c till I popped off the tops and found them clogged to hell with dust. Blew it all out, 20C drop, still not enough imo so some after market heatsinks for another 20c drop. Now they rarely pass 65C under full load.
Chaddy	Posted - 2006.06.06 07:56:00 - [10] Originally by: Vincent Rainbow 2: Take off your fan and add some more conductive paste stuff to the top of your cpu. Please, mate. Dont tell people do stuff like that. There should be a VERY little, of the conductive paste on the CPU. About what you can have a nail is way enough. IF you put too much on, it will make your CPU go boom already. Buy a proper cooling system. There are some good fans out there. Eventually make sure that the airflow arent broken, like mine was. The most importent thing is that you suck in new air in the front, and blow out the warm air in the back. Also make sure that air can get out in the top
d'hofren	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:19:00 - [11] Edited by: d''hofren on 06/06/2006 08:20:27 I have just been through exactly the same thing. Take a look at the back of your pc case, just below the PSU. 95% of cases have a space for a extra fan here. Measure it up and you will probably find it is a 800mm unit. Now check the front of your case, you might find a second blank fan space below the Floppy drive bays. Browse over to your local pc website and buy two fans of the correct size. The last pair I bought cost me 2 pounds each. Check the air flow on your PSU fan. ATX spec says it should be sucking air into the case though I have never seen one that does that. Install the new rear case fan blowing the same direction as your PSU fan. You want it to assist in air flow. Install any front fan blowing the same direction. The idea is to draw air into the case and then expell it via the fan on the other end. I have just completed slapping an extra pair of fans into my main eve pc. Two weeks ago my cpu temps peaked in the hight 60 c range under a two eve client load. Adding just an extra exhaust fan to the case and cleaning my cpu fan dropped the CPU temp to 50 c. Getting bored on sunday and digging out my dremel and cutting wheels resulted in another side intake fan which has dropped the cpu to 47 c or so under a two client load. Not much effect above adding the exhaust fan but I now have a case that sounds like a jet fighter when it starts up and has a funky green led fans on the side and back. Mrs Hoff think it looks like a bad prop from a 70's Dr Who episode. Anyhow the whole project cost me about five pounds and I could have fitted the one exhaust that made the main differance without any cutting or drilling on the main case. That has to be worth you at least opening your case and having a measure up? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Galactic Exploration and Mining - Web and T II Shop
Meiso	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:25:00 - [12] I had a similar problem. I swapped out my stock cooler for the Akasa AK-920 (I can't see anything in the forum rules about posting a link to something that doesn't involve an auction site or ingame items... Sorry if it's against the rules!) http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/97866. It dropped my CPU temperatue when playing eve from 83+ to about 58 now, and it's summer too! It WAS less than 58, but i had to take out the fan again for another reason, and before i put it back in i idiotically smudged most of the thermal paste off. Oops! ------- I love me brick.
spookz	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:29:00 - [13] You really should reapply the thermal paste if you remove the heat sink. Latest Video - Leaving PA
Xelios	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:29:00 - [14] 1) Apply Arctic Silver thermal paste. 2) Buy and mount an upgraded heat sink/fan. Problem solved
Dinique	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Vincent Rainbow I used to get that sometimes, especially in summer, when the pc had been on all day. a few things I did which helped till I got a better system: 1: Grab a hoover, suck out all the dust from your heatsinks. 2: Take off your fan and add some more conductive paste stuff to the top of your cpu. 3: Check running processes using task manager and msconfig and get rid of anything u don't need 4: Buy a better fan or a watercooling system 5: Clean and polish your mains plug. 6: Add case fans 7: Lay your PC on its side, CPU facing up. This cools considerably more efficiently than upright. You might think I am mad, but do it - it works. What a load of crap... Man... 1 - DONT VACUUM YOUR COMPUTER EVER. If you want to get rid of dust buy a can of compressed air and blow it out. 2 - You should have VERY VERY little paste between your CPU and cooler. The paste is there to make sure there is no air inbetween the two, the paste itself is NOT a very good heat conductor. 5 - Don't really see how this is going to make your CPU run cooler. 7 - Rubbish. _____ There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones

Ivan Kirilenkov	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:30:00 - [16] I've found that adding a 120mm case-fan in the back of the tower to blow the hot air OUT of the tower works very well in addition to the CPU-fan. Other than that, giving more details on your setup is a nice thing if you want advice.

Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:31:00 - [17] Originally by: shaqarava Edited by: shaqarava on 06/06/2006 06:24:17 It overheats liks a b**h, now more than ever cos it's summer time. Temperature goes up to 55 just by opening up a browser. Worst thing is I can't play EVE anymore. EVE adds 20 degrees when I open it up, and from there on my cpu just keeps getting hotter. I had 10 accounts. I can't even play one for more than 10 minutes without the stupid cpu overheating, curse AMD. I've had to cancel all my accounts, jsut finished cancelling the last one Pitty mee got the same problem, myself, almost. My Graphics Card is overheating, the wee fan on it stopped working, and no matter what, my ghetto* attempts to keep it cool arent very good, and I crash every hour or so. Waiting for the replacement to arrive.
Virida	Posted - 2006.06.06 09:59:00 - [18] Computer electronics die, thats a sad truth. Ive changed overheating parts sometime, but when something like that happen, something is WRONG with the computer. EVE dont make a computer overheats suddenly, unless something is wrong.
vanBuskirk	Posted - 2006.06.06 10:26:00 - [19] I had this very same problem a while back. It turned out the power supply wasn't up to the job - so the fans were running at less than rated speed. In addition to all the other stuff people have suggested, a new power supply with more power might help. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." ----------------------------------------------
shaqarava	Posted - 2006.06.06 10:34:00 - [20] Thanks for the suggestions, but my pc really is a lost cause. It's a shuttle PC, so there's no fan attached to the heatsink, and I bought a some new Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste and applied it to my cpu less than a month ago. It still overheats. I've placed my unit on the window sill. I tried playing eve at 6:30 am the temperature was like 17 degrees outside and the cool air usually helps, but not today, the cpu was a decent 22 degrees. But I opened up EVE, KABOOM it shot up to something like 40, and when i logged in it went up to 50 then 60 and just crashes at the magic number of 77. From the momemt i logged in to the moment it crashed, it was only a mere 3 minutes I seriously have to take up a new hobby God, i hope it's not reading. Maybe i can buy and assemble sci fi model kits and play my own real world eve with man-made sound effects
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.06.06 14:40:00 - [21] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 06/06/2006 14:41:47 Is it an AthlonXP? Mine routinely idles at 55C, cranks over 60C, and managed to top the mofo out at 72C once. The shuttle case will limit your options for anything more drastic. Try: Running the PC with the case open; it's not pretty or anything, but it works. Upgrading the fans. It's a fairly n00bish job to do, you can get some fairly beefy fans that move silly amounts of air. As above really, if some fan mounts exist in the case but are empty, then put something in them. (like a slice of toast) You could try underclocking the processor, tricky and fooling about with BIOS settings, but it will reduce temps for the summer. As for vacuum/compressed air. Blow with your mouth man, blow! (Unless you're deathly asmatic, in which case ask a healthy person to do it.) Edit: Just noticed your comment on opening Eve. Is it just Eve, or any graphically intensive program? It could be your graphics card which is fudged. Most new ATI/nVidia cards can show their onboard temp, might be something to investigate.
shaqarava	Posted - 2006.06.06 17:11:00 - [22] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 06/06/2006 14:41:47 Is it an AthlonXP? Mine routinely idles at 55C, cranks over 60C, and managed to top the mofo out at 72C once. The shuttle case will limit your options for anything more drastic. Try: Running the PC with the case open; it's not pretty or anything, but it works. Upgrading the fans. It's a fairly n00bish job to do, you can get some fairly beefy fans that move silly amounts of air. As above really, if some fan mounts exist in the case but are empty, then put something in them. (like a slice of toast) You could try underclocking the processor, tricky and fooling about with BIOS settings, but it will reduce temps for the summer. As for vacuum/compressed air. Blow with your mouth man, blow! (Unless you're deathly asmatic, in which case ask a healthy person to do it.) Edit: Just noticed your comment on opening Eve. Is it just Eve, or any graphically intensive program? It could be your graphics card which is fudged. Most new ATI/nVidia cards can show their onboard temp, might be something to investigate. I've been using my shuttle for months without the outer case panel and still do. I put it on the window sill so the very early morning cold air passes through the case. It helps, lowers it down to 30, sometimes 20 degrees. Once i got it to 1 degree!! one of my most proudest achievements: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/shaqarava/1degree.jpg and that was without liquid cooling btw, just with the help of mother nature, I was freezing in my underwear that night though I have a Radeon X800xl installed, i don't think it's the problem, it's definately the cpu that's the cause of it all. Any program i run will cuase it to heat up radpidly. I only have firefox running and it's already 50 degrees. I'd be willing to underclock it but i don't know how, lol. Darn, wish it was winter again, or hope there's an overnight ice age Anyway, screw the shuttle, I'm waiting for the Acer Ferari 5000 to come out and then i'm buying that. Not sure if I wanna get a new desktop though, only if it had liquid cooling or if i decide to go into desktop replacements, I mean look at the sorry state my pc is in atm: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/shaqarava/DSC00863.jpg
Raven Aure	Posted - 2006.06.06 20:54:00 - [23] From experience, an Athlon XP will idle at 50-60 deg C under "normal" conditions. Yes it is possible to bring this down a bit but in standard household envirionments this is what we expect to see. This is also why we never installed Athlon XPs into "quiet" machines which tend to have inherently little cooling. ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron Hadron Enterprises
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.06 21:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Lori Carlyle Watercooling 4TW! w3rd, yo ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
RedWyvern	Posted - 2006.06.06 22:13:00 - [25] according to Speedfan (and Sisoft Sandra, and my pc's BIOS) my 3.0ghz p4 is running at 94 Celsius, and has been for the past year or so. Do I win a prize? =D -------------------------------------------------- Loyalty, Integrity, Honour.
Dogma2003	Posted - 2006.06.06 23:48:00 - [26] Originally by: RedWyvern according to Speedfan (and Sisoft Sandra, and my pc's BIOS) my 3.0ghz p4 is running at 94 Celsius, and has been for the past year or so. Do I win a prize? =D 94C? Damn, I have a p4 3.0ghz overclocked to 3.6ghz and its been running at 38C idle and 44 max under heavy load for over a year and a half. I contribute it to my Thermaltake Spark 7 Cooler and my Antec Full Tower.5 80mm cooling fans really help. As far as my Athlon Xp machines, I never ever use stock HSF. I have used Thermaltake exclusively for over 4 years on my p4's and Athlons and they have never let me down yet. If there was a prize however for a hot running processor, you'd win for sure! With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels.
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.07 00:09:00 - [27] TT air stuff is pretty good... TT water stuff should be avoided like the plauge, but thats no different from any kit water apart from swiftech tbqh. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.06.07 00:40:00 - [28] Originally by: RedWyvern according to Speedfan (and Sisoft Sandra, and my pc's BIOS) my 3.0ghz p4 is running at 94 Celsius, and has been for the past year or so. Do I win a prize? =D Thats almost certainly a (hardware) sensor error. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.07 00:55:00 - [29] No different from the multitude of DFI eXpert mobos that report sub-ambient idle temps for watercooled dual opterons ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!

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