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Desudes
Federal Defence Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.19 00:58:00 -
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Cordo Draken wrote:Desudes wrote:
Do you not know what a Falcon is?
You obviously have never heard of ECCM or Projected ECCM? Falcons are not an I WIN Button or the Auto-GTFO safety net you think it is. Try harder.
I don't know how many boats you'd fly against a CNR that have enough sensor strength to do anything about a Falcon + CNR.
If you land on grid with something too intense for a CNR (+ Falcon you didn't know about) then he just warps off as he can sit aligned while he waits for you to come back.
Also keep in mind the CNR has the advantage of choosing exactly where the fight takes place in this situation. You're warping into a trap.
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu? |
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
8
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Posted - 2011.11.19 08:40:00 -
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Desudes wrote:Cordo Draken wrote:Desudes wrote:
Do you not know what a Falcon is?
You obviously have never heard of ECCM or Projected ECCM? Falcons are not an I WIN Button or the Auto-GTFO safety net you think it is. Try harder. I don't know how many boats you'd fly against a CNR that have enough sensor strength to do anything about a Falcon + CNR. If you land on grid with something too intense for a CNR (+ Falcon you didn't know about) then he just warps off as he can sit aligned while he waits for you to come back. Also keep in mind the CNR has the advantage of choosing exactly where the fight takes place in this situation. You're warping into a trap.
Let me add since you think the CNR+Falcon is too much for one ship to handle. A well skilled Falcon Pilot can hit 14-15 Jam strength... more with boosters. ECCM Stacks... pretty much doubles sensor strength. Standard Cruiser 15-20 Sensor strength, now become 30-40. A Logi can easily equip ECCM & Projected ECCM for me. A wise pilot, knowing there's Corp Aggro involved, knows how many are in system, maybe does a little research on his target before committing, may see a pattern and has both ready(Seeing a trend in ECM warfare) my SS is 60-80. Granted, obviously not everyone does this, most are haphazard, but at this point I'm speaking if i were the Looter. It's all a matter of distance and speed... sure he could get away, but more importantly... I know the CNR's not going to take me down and I'll force that Falcon off the field if not kill it.
Trap or not, that duo can easily be over come by a competent pilot/group. Indeed he could succeed over the lesser.
eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
44
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Posted - 2011.11.19 08:57:00 -
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Borun Tal wrote:Well, this has been 5 minutes of my life I won't get back...
Can sell you Five minutes of life back to you in jita if you like. Cheap one time offer of 2 Billion Isk, no returns. |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.11.19 14:57:00 -
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To the OP.
Does it really happen often that some1 LOOT's ur mission ship wreck's?
I, myself, had one time a Ninja SALVAGER on the wrecks from a mission of me.
I thought Ninja's do Salvage others wrecks but don't loot to prevent theirselves from getting red to the player their are salvaging wrecks from.
You think it's worth to have a second account watching ur missioning account doing nothing 99,99% of the time? |
Kharmha
Midnight Caretakers
Wild-Cards
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Posted - 2012.02.08 05:05:00 -
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I know this is a semi old post running, but ild like to point out something to the OP.
If you have someone that keeps stealing from your missions, its quite easy to simply pop a few of the wrecks as he/she is about to steal from you.
I had a mission i was working on, and someone came in and was salvaging the wrecks i had scattered all about.
Rather then let him continue, i targeted the wrecks closest to him, and waited for him to move towards one.
Soon as he did i blew up that wreck, he stoped, and after like 15 seconds moved to a new wreck. I poped that one also and he simply left the mission site. He saw i wasent going to let him loot or salvage my wrecks, and descided to move on to someone elses site.
Discouraging him might be the far easier way to go. See it as if he wont let you have the loot, you wont let him have it either.
Kharmha
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Outz Xacto
Echelon Munitions
9
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:40:00 -
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Kharmha wrote:I know this is a semi old post running, but ild like to point out something to the OP.
If you have someone that keeps stealing from your missions, its quite easy to simply pop a few of the wrecks as he/she is about to steal from you.
I had a mission i was working on, and someone came in and was salvaging the wrecks i had scattered all about.
Rather then let him continue, i targeted the wrecks closest to him, and waited for him to move towards one.
Soon as he did i blew up that wreck, he stoped, and after like 15 seconds moved to a new wreck. I poped that one also and he simply left the mission site. He saw i wasent going to let him loot or salvage my wrecks, and descided to move on to someone elses site.
Discouraging him might be the far easier way to go. See it as if he wont let you have the loot, you wont let him have it either.
Kharmha
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Dztrgovac
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Posted - 2012.02.08 12:22:00 -
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Large number of loot thieves are specifically doing it to provoke you into shooting them, so they can return with PVP ship and kill your mission ship. If you for example tackle the initial stealing ship they will know you are PVP fit and either avoid you or blob hard.
What you are supposed to do (if you want to bait them) is to take some potshots at him, so he runs of to get his PVP boat. And then try to kill that one when he comes to the mission area (fighting at station means station game fun for both, so do that if you love that).
Btw don't do it in a CNR or Golem, to much risk if attacker brings 5 friends and blobs you. Normal fully PVP fit Ravon or something like neuting plated Domi . |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
152
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:14:00 -
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Shooting with your CNR is at best pointless; he'll be expecting to either warp out or lose the ship. At worst, your CNR will explode...so don't try that.
Having an alt/friend in the same player corp, in a ship you don't mind him losing if things go badly, is a good solution. I wouldn't use a cloak due to a reactivation delay. For most purposes I'd recommend an interceptor, maybe a taranis...but some look to salvage in their gankship (usually something small and weak-looking, like an arbitrator) which will then receive RR.
I think a vagabond or cynabal would be the best option here.
Quote:Btw don't do it in a CNR or Golem, to much risk if attacker brings 5 friends and blobs you. Normal fully PVP fit Ravon or something like neuting plated Domi .
Not possible unless the OP takes from his can. The best the attacker can do is get RR. |
NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:21:00 -
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Well the easy answer is RAT in PVP fitted ship. Might mean warping out or pulsing your AB but so what?
or just 1v1 the visitor. You know like convo him and see if he is willing to honor a winner takes all arrangement. This gives you a better idea of who your dealing with.
either way, he prolly won't come back next time...
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Zyress
Deaths Head Brigade
Gryphon League
29
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:47:00 -
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Typical Ninja looter is in a destroyer or a frigate, A mission fit Maelstrom could probably alpha it. That said the problem with pvping in a mission ship is of course the lack of a point so maybe an interceptor would be a good idea |
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