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Havocide Reikoku Pandemic Legion 1	Posted - 2014.06.04 07:34:00 - [1] - Quote (unsure if repost) Burial is a critically acclaimed British electronic artist for those who are unaware - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_(musician) < copy-paste I was listening to http://youtu.be/M1bb2JakOmo?t=4m and immediately recognised the music sampled at 4:15, Red Glowing Dust from EVEs original soundtrack (and one of my favourite eve tracks in general) as heard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iKA2wJp97s . Just found it kinda cool and interesting, wouldn't surprise me if he is or was an EVE player.
3rr0rc0d3 7713	Posted - 2014.06.04 07:58:00 - [2] - Quote Hmm, I wonder he got permission to use the sample... If not, CCP could claim breached copyright and Burial would have to pay. Or worse, take down the album. I make spacemusic. www.minddivided.com Proud supporter of HighDrag Podcast http://highdrag.wordpress.com
Havocide Reikoku Pandemic Legion 1	Posted - 2014.06.04 08:47:00 - [3] - Quote Not CCPs property, I imagine it remains copyright of Jon hallur (or his label), and I would also imagine he would have obtained permission.
BLACK-STAR 640	Posted - 2014.06.04 09:12:00 - [4] - Quote Ha, interesting. Likely didn't have permission but used it anyway. Probably a breach. Also, I like the tune. - If violence does not solve your problem, you may not have used enough of it.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 7126	Posted - 2014.06.04 10:14:00 - [5] - Quote Havocide wrote: Not CCPs property, I imagine it remains copyright of Jon hallur (or his label) You mean CCP: J+¦n Hallur Haraldsson, who works for CCP and the audio tracks which are under the 'CCP Games' label? That one?? Havocide wrote: and I would also imagine he would have obtained permission. uh-huh... -.- On a side note, ewww that's terrible the things they call music these days I don't think CCP will do anything about it though, it's just three keys of a synth. Just really lazy to not even bother to reproduce it himself, but just slap it right in from a lossy compression format and all. That's not very professional.
Havocide Reikoku Pandemic Legion 2	Posted - 2014.06.04 10:19:00 - [6] - Quote Webvan wrote: Havocide wrote: Not CCPs property, I imagine it remains copyright of Jon hallur (or his label) You mean CCP: J+¦n Hallur Haraldsson, who works for CCP and the audio tracks which are under the 'CCP Games' label? That one?? Havocide wrote: and I would also imagine he would have obtained permission. uh-huh... -.- On a side note, ewww that's terrible the things they call music these days I don't think CCP will do anything about it though, it's just three keys of a synth. Just really lazy to not even bother to reproduce it himself, but just slap it right in from a lossy compression format and all. That's not very professional. Please tell me more internet holmes
Erin Crawford 77	Posted - 2014.06.04 10:22:00 - [7] - Quote Pretty nice track actually. Reminds me of Michael Cretu's early work on Enigma and Trance Atlantic Air Waves.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 7128	Posted - 2014.06.04 10:35:00 - [8] - Quote Havocide wrote: Please tell me more internet holmes Suuuure...
Havocide Reikoku Pandemic Legion 4	Posted - 2014.06.04 11:41:00 - [9] - Quote Webvan wrote: Havocide wrote: Please tell me more internet holmes Suuuure... Here's your request: "J+¦n: Funny story, I was visiting CCP with a class from school back in March 2000, and in the tour we got, Reynir (Creative Director) pointed to a room and said that this was where the music and sound guy was supposed to sit. I asked who they got, and they said the job was up for grabs. So I applied, pointing them to my various mp3.com sites I had in those days and was hired two months later. At that time EVE was just beginning to go into full production mode." Speaking of his job with CCP: "J+¦n: I just go where the jobs takes me. I guess my job is a lot more technical than it used to be." And then I remember comments back in the old forums by ISD's about his employment with CCP, but I don't want to search back there, you should be doing that, not me. You try far too hard, nerd less, sunlight more
Webvan All Kill No Skill 7139	Posted - 2014.06.04 12:25:00 - [10] - Quote Havocide wrote: You try far too hard, nerd less, sunlight more Try hard at what? 3rr0rc0d3 had it right, you didn't even bother to check. Now you just want to toss around personal attack insults since you have no ground to stand on, all you have left.
Havocide Reikoku Pandemic Legion 4	Posted - 2014.06.04 13:04:00 - [11] - Quote Webvan wrote: Havocide wrote: You try far too hard, nerd less, sunlight more Try hard at what? 3rr0rc0d3 had it right, you didn't even bother to check. Now you just want to toss around personal attack insults since you have no ground to stand on, all you have left. It was never up for debate, i made a suggestion that would be accurate for 99% of composers as they are generally 3rd party, the fact i didn't spend my time researching these ~very important~ facts doesn't change that it is normally the case. Furthermore turning a thread that is meant to be a fun little find to some modern music enthusiasts into a neckbeard discussion on copyright is a bit pathetic, but I assume you are the life and soul of social circles correcting people on their mistakes over non-issues. Though please do continue to reply, gotta keep that 20+ daily post count going strong.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 7166	Posted - 2014.06.04 13:30:00 - [12] - Quote Havocide wrote: It was never up for debate It's always up for debate. Composer #1 enters thread and points out how that is wrong, you argue. Composer #2 enters the thread, backs up Composer #1 and corrects your inaccuracy. Then you go into your little virtual internet meltdown, can't realize that stealing music to publish as your own is somehow wrong, just a matter of "modern music enthusiasts or you are a neckbeard otherwise" hehehe. What were you expecting by bringing this to everyone's attention really? Oh how wonderful, some fool stole music and claimed it as his own. Or more like a bad-troll thread in OOPE, trying to start trouble because you know some people would have problems with it. Yup.
3rr0rc0d3 7764	Posted - 2014.06.04 16:39:00 - [13] - Quote Havocide wrote: Not CCPs property, I imagine it remains copyright of Jon hallur (or his label), and I would also imagine he would have obtained permission. This thread went downhill quickly. sigh Considering the music was written commissioned by CCP, the copyright is (in all probability) owned by CCP. Jon does however retain the rights to the score and as such can protect his IP. That said, asking for permission is something a lot of producers neglect because the odds of getting caught are fairly small. I tried contacting CCP through various channels before making my remix of Below The Asteroids public because I don't feel like going to court with a company that could potentially bury me in copyright claims. I got no response. None. At all. So I just made it public and made sure I didn't step on any toes by 1) not selling the remix, 2) crediting the original production and 3) promoting the game with whatever means I could. So far, I haven't been called to court and CCP hasn't responded in any way, so I guess they don't hate it. The same problem arises with sampling. Let's say I sample a typical 808 drum and snare for one of my productions that I want to sell later on. I know where I downloaded the samples, but I don't know who made the original sample. I can then contact the website where I downloaded the sample and ask if they know where it originated. Two options: they don't know and I'm sht out of luck, or they know and I can contact the next party. In case of option 1, I can go ahead and use the samples, but risk getting sued when the original owner finds out and wants to protect his IP. Or option 2, I can keep contacting people to find out if I can use it or not. This all takes a massive amount of time which could be better spent producing, so most of the time producers just don't bother unless it's a clearcut case. The third option is to synthesize the sounds myself, which I usually do. It's more fun that way too. Other than that, Burial isn't my cup of tea personally. It's not a bad production in any way, but it just doesn't do anything for me. My comment also wasn't meant to derail an entire thread, but rather an observation. I hate you all equally. I make spacemusic. www.minddivided.com* Proud supporter of HighDrag Podcast http://highdrag.wordpress.com
Mizhir Euphoria Released Triumvirate. 62759	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:19:00 - [14] - Quote Pretty sweet track. Burial makes some sweet music. And listening to Red Glowing dust gave me a kick of nostalgia. Regarding legal stuff. I think this is the closest answer: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=342730&find=unread One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3084	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote Removed some off topic posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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