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Shell Scott
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.06 03:53:00 -
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Melted circuit boards and what not that sell for bupkis. What am I missing??
Aware me brahs |
Lilliana Stelles
1246
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:10:00 -
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Occasional tags which can be turned into datacenters. Rarely a module or some worthwhile salvage (tritanium bars, armor plates, etc). The majority of the worth is in the bounty though. Not a forum alt.-á |
Shell Scott
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:26:00 -
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Seemed so. Thanks! |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3048
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:38:00 -
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Most salvage in the game comes from exploration sites, not from salvaging either player wrecks or NPC wrecks.
Inefficient ways of getting salvage (such as using salvager modules on NPC wrecks) are not very rewarding. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Advanced Amateurs
1303
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:35:00 -
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T2 and T3 ships may yield some expensive salvage but if you can fit something more usefull, so so. I only fit salvagers if there's absolutely nothing else I can do with the high slot the salvager would take. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
246
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:59:00 -
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Once upon a time salvage from rats and pc ships was a decent way for a new player to make isk. Then ccp changed exploration and flooded the market making it generally pointless to go through the effort. In fact, the general consensus seems to be that when you do missions you should ignore the wrecks and just blitz for maximum isk/hour. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2007
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Posted - 2014.06.06 15:11:00 -
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Shell Scott wrote:Melted circuit boards and what not that sell for bupkis. What am I missing??
Aware me brahs the main thing you are missing is that the market is player-run. supply and demand dictate prices. if not enough people want to buy rigs, the salvage they are made from automatically drops in price until it bottoms out at a price where many players will not even bother putting up market orders.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
266
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Posted - 2014.06.06 18:58:00 -
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It matters more if you also have skills for manufacturing and market PvP. Lacking these, it's better to simply kill more rats than try to make arts and crafts from their corpses. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1199
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Posted - 2014.06.06 21:43:00 -
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Loot from wrecks can still be worth stealing, especially if you are a new player and you are looting level 4s. Salvaging NPCs is pointless on today's market, though. I'd love to see CCP take some steps to balance this, but I suppose they have other priorities.
Salvaging player ships is still worthwhile, especially T2 and T3 hulls. A newbie could make a good living following the New Order around and salvaging all the Mackinaw and Hulk wrecks. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
Shell Scott
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.06.06 22:11:00 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:It matters more if you also have skills for manufacturing and market PvP. Lacking these, it's better to simply kill more rats than try to make arts and crafts from their corpses.
lol |
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1373
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:28:00 -
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There really isn't much point, really. Salvaging missions under level IV isn't worth your time. Whether level IV missions are worth salvaging is a matter of debate. Check for loot and leave NPC wrecks in missions.
Do people still do the ninja looter thing?
There are salvaging services that will do your mission (level IV) looting for you - a new player could work for them and make ok ISK (Not sure what the introduction of the Mobile Tractor Unit has done to that business). Or one could pick the bones in Faction Warfare systems - use D-scan to find player wrecks and salvage them...
You're not missing much, OP.
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Jockari Morden
Lords Of Anarchy
0
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Posted - 2014.06.07 02:12:00 -
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Worth the time in Level 4 while you are finishing the last ships in a pocket.
A dominix can make use of it : drop mobile tractor unit, pop the large micro jump drive, shoot at stuff from long range with sentry, use MJD a second time to come to the MTU to get the loots, salvage the battleships wrecks, get MTU back then move on in next pocket. In this case you don't lose any time and get some millions isk in salvage. As the dominix doesn't need every highslot, it is better than nothing. And this crap doesn't take cargo space anyway ...
Even if it is not a lot of isk it helps the newbros dominix players get some money. |
Stanley Savior
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.06.07 02:51:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Once upon a time salvage from rats and pc ships was a decent way for a new player to make isk. Then ccp changed exploration and flooded the market making it generally pointless to go through the effort. In fact, the general consensus seems to be that when you do missions you should ignore the wrecks and just blitz for maximum isk/hour.
I disagree, low level salvage/exploration allows new players and novices to such devices learn. It does not have to "be" about Isk and getting rich, you may find relic sites exploration sites and find items that you can use later on, if you truly love this game, anything you do should be worth while. Do not sprint such negativity on new eden's next generations.
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Lee Zounduz
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:18:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Do people still do the ninja looter thing?
You're not missing much, OP.
You can make 10 million an hour easy, Ninja Salvaging as a new player. It wont make you popular but everyone has to start somewhere! |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1374
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:44:00 -
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I meant one is not missing much by not salvaging level I-III missions.
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Stanley Savior
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:57:00 -
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At least some people still enjoy the fun of the game, boy I missed a lot. |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
197
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Posted - 2014.06.07 15:48:00 -
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I continue to support these myths and/or legends. ...end transmission... GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½ |
Brink Albosa
Screaming Hayabusa
24
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Posted - 2014.06.07 15:57:00 -
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Lee Zounduz wrote:Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Do people still do the ninja looter thing?
You're not missing much, OP.
You can make 10 million an hour easy, Ninja Salvaging as a new player. It wont make you popular but everyone has to start somewhere!
This is still a viable thing? :) It's a great income, how I got started in this world |
Shell Scott
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.06.07 17:13:00 -
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Saw someone get blapped outside my station when I was heading off to mine. Rushed back to switch ships. Went back out and he was already looting his ship. He left fast and I was able to salvage the yellow wreck (this was in hi sec) and got a million in armor plating.
Not bad, thinks I. |
Stanley Savior
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.07 21:14:00 -
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That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas. |
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
620
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:36:00 -
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Stanley Savior wrote:That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas.
FF mmo player. {Found it} |
Stanley Savior
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.09 01:59:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Stanley Savior wrote:That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas. FF mmo player. {Found it}
Oh my~! I mentioned "gil" I meant ISK sink. |
Brink Albosa
Screaming Hayabusa
24
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:07:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Stanley Savior wrote:That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas. FF mmo player. {Found it} Moat carps. {Do you need it?} |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:16:00 -
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Stanley Savior wrote:Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Once upon a time salvage from rats and pc ships was a decent way for a new player to make isk. Then ccp changed exploration and flooded the market making it generally pointless to go through the effort. In fact, the general consensus seems to be that when you do missions you should ignore the wrecks and just blitz for maximum isk/hour. I disagree, low level salvage/exploration allows new players and novices to such devices learn. It does not have to "be" about Isk and getting rich, you may find relic sites exploration sites and find items that you can use later on, if you truly love this game, anything you do should be worth while. Do not sprint such negativity on new eden's next generations.
You missed the where the op was asking about "isk" in relation to salvaging. Sure, if you enjoy salvaging go for it. But as an eve "profession" it has been gutted and there are many more isk per hour worthwhile activities that new players can be directed to so that they can fund their play styles.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:31:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Stanley Savior wrote:That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas. FF mmo player. {Found it}
We're out there. Fear us. |
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:32:00 -
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Brink Albosa wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Stanley Savior wrote:That is nice to hear a new player/novice to salvaging has decent gil source. Every new player should venture out and try salvaging such wrecks even in dangerous areas. FF mmo player. {Found it} Moat carps. {Do you need it?}
No, but I've got these beehive chips if you're interested... |
Winter Archipelago
Fade.
222
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Posted - 2014.06.10 17:36:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Once upon a time salvage from rats and pc ships was a decent way for a new player to make isk. Then ccp changed exploration and flooded the market making it generally pointless to go through the effort. In fact, the general consensus seems to be that when you do missions you should ignore the wrecks and just blitz for maximum isk/hour.
Carry around a few Mobile Tractor Units and drop one in each pocket, bookmark it, and continue with the mission. After a mission or two, go back, grab the loot and the Tractor Unit, and repeat with the next mission. Loot can often be fairly valuable, and mobile tractor units really make it easy to grab. Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
Kesshisan
108
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:50:00 -
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I believe that salvaging is one of the best ways for a very new player to get a small amount of isk. I salvage incursions and while I won't make nearly as much as running them, it's a nice way to pass the time while on a wait list. If you're a new player and didn't understand that last sentence, it's okay, the only words you need to remember are "Salvage" and "Incursions."
Here is what I salvage incursions with:
[Rifter, Incursions Salvager] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
1MN Microwarpdrive II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I Small Salvage Tackle I Small Salvage Tackle I
You could easily run this with a T1 variant, as T1 modules require much less isk and training.
Here's the breakdown from current Dodixie prices:
Rifter: 430,000 isk Nanofiber Internal Structure I: 8,500 x3 = 25,500 isk Cap Recharger I: 39,000 x2 = 78,000 isk 1MN Microwarpdrive I: 58,000 isk Salvage I: 35,000 isk x 4 = 140,000 isk Small Capacitor Control Circuit Rig: 349,000 isk Small Salvage Tackle Rig: 750,000 x2 = 1,500,000 isk
For a grand total of: 2,580,500 isk
That's right, 2.6 million isk is all you need to start salvaging incursions and making about 5-20 mil isk / hour. Again, this isk isn't great, but for the [in-game] skills required, and investment required, it will get you started. If you wish to go the whole T2 module route, the whole ship costs about 10million isk, but salvages much faster. Still, it's not a big problem if you "lose" it by accident.
I warn you, though, doing Incursions Salvaging requires some out-of-game skills. That is, knowledge about parts of EvE that aren't gained through skill points.
Here is an incomplete list of stuff you should know in order to not lose your ship and increase profit per hour:
- A very basic understanding of incursions. (HQ vs VG, etc.)
- A basic understanding of the directional scanner. (Extremely important.)
- How to manage your overlay such that the appropriate items are shown, and clutter is not shown.
- How to bookmark a location in space.
- How bookmarks in deadspace pockets are affected by people "completing" the incursion event. (That is, how bookmarks in space accessed by acceleration gates are affected. When you can warp directly to them, and when you are required to use the acceleration gate.)
- Access to some incursion channels.
I love "ninja" salvaging incursions. It's not big isk/hour, but I enjoy the relaxing nature of it. Once I get my bookmarks setup, and warp to the now-empty-pocket my rifter takes off on a ballet, dancing from one wreck to another, casually taking it by the hand for a cycle before doing a pirouette and heading towards the next wreck, to take the new partner by the hand and repeat until the room is barren save myself in a rust coloured frigate.
If someone is interested in more on this topic please ask (here or in a PM) and I will go into greater detail. I used to think that any strategy which required your victim to be stupid to work wasn't sound.
...then I started playing EvE online. |
Kesshisan
108
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:08:00 -
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Okay, now that I've discussed salvaging Incursions, onto salvaging Level 4s. (For clarity sake, I decided to make this a separate post.)
I fly a Dominix Sniper for completing the level 4 missions, and I fly a Noctis, a dedicated salvage ship, to salvage the previously run mission. While running my missions I drop off Mobile Tractor Units in the missions to speed up the salvaging. The biggest isk/hour from salvaging comes from looting the Mobile Tractor Unit, not the time spent salvage. Even knowing this I still salvage the mission.
Why?
I like salvaging. It's peaceful, it's risk free*, it's okay income. Running the Level 4s is better income, but that requires attention, and planning, and reading mission reports, and changing out drones and scripts and... You get the idea.
*Nothing is EvE is risk free. It's very low risk. I doubt someone is going to shoot at my Noctis.
Regardless, I have the skills to non-stop run level 4s, but I take the time to salvage [most of my] level 4s. The isk/hour isn't as high, but I enjoy it more. After all, that's why I'm here; enjoyment. I used to think that any strategy which required your victim to be stupid to work wasn't sound.
...then I started playing EvE online. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Advanced Amateurs
1305
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Posted - 2014.06.11 07:20:00 -
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Notice small T1 rig BPO's do not need ME research to be efficient, and take salvage as components. If you plan on blowing up lots of frigates, it may be worthwhile to manufacture your own rigs (depending on your SP in manufacturing). |
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