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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6802
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Posted - 2014.06.07 00:33:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote: This activity is regarded in my book as bannable for ALL of this so called alliance called CODE. I am at the point of wardeccing that entire alliance until the last one falls. I am sick and tired of their nonsense of the way they deal with AFKers and they have ABSOLUTELY no rights, they have ABSOLUTELY no endorsement from CCP to engage in what I see is illegal griefing beyond the point of no return plus.
James315 started this whole mess when he posted his rants (manifestos) a couple of years ago, where is he at now?? HIDING thats where. I may be a "NicePirate" but my blood boils. AFK autopiloting is NOT botting, nor is mining, if I need to go and take a break while mining thats MY RIGHT to do so. If CODE is so darn stupid to think they can control EVERY aspect of the game, I hate to see what would happen in nulsec.
Go ahead and wardec them, if you feel that strongly about it. I double dog dare you.
Also, bingo. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
98
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Posted - 2014.06.07 00:37:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote: 7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
It's funny because you think you matter. A True Champion of High Security Space |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
297
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:25:00 -
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412nv Yaken wrote:Graabeerd Khagah wrote: 7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
It's funny because you think you matter.
Everyone knows that hisec miners have powerful friends in nullsec. "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2433
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:44:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote: 7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
For realz, I totally LOL'd at that. "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1302
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:52:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:I've never heard anyone say that afk mining was botting.
We call it bot-aspirancy, not botting.
YariLei wrote:I've seen CODE open fire on empty shuttles and rookie frigates just because they were AFK, which just seems odd.
And I've seen killmails where people had all kinds of shiny in their shuttle or rookie ship.
Graabeerd Khagah wrote:7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
And yet I've never felt unwelcome in a CFC fleet on account of my New Order association. Perhaps you should stop speaking for all of nullsec. :) No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
233
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:52:00 -
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It's amazing every single day for the past fortnight we continue to kill freighters on a scale never before seen in eve. Unstoppable and Unopposed. People try but the code always wins.
Get a permit or be destroyed.
/thread
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
134
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:20:00 -
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YariLei wrote:Ganking for profit has always been a part of Eve and I endorse it; you should never fly what you can't afford to lose. I learned it the hard way and that's fine. It's Eve so I got what I deserved. However, I received a letter saying why CODE picks their targets and there's a point I'd like to get an honest answer to from CODE, if you may? The letter claims autopiloting is an AFK activity and therefore botting; hence bannable by their code of conduct. I'm simply wondering, by this reasoning, is all AFK activity considered botting?
When you sell something in local market, you put it up and leave it there. Likewise, Buy Orders exist until they're fulfilled, requiring little input from you as a player, other than occasionally fixing the price. By not directly selling to open Buy Orders but putting something up as a Sales Order, you're relying on game mechanics to do the sale for you. Just like autopiloting would do when you click the button in Eve client.
If a pilot purchases a Catalyst from a sell order from local market, wouldn't that be seen as endorcing AFK activity? Where would you draw a line?
Therefore, wouldn't it be easier to just come out straight, "honest-to-god" gankers, since the "ban-all-AFK-activity" approach seems -to me- a little questionable?
You agree botting is bad right? market bots ruin honest traders with their undercutting, mining bots lower the price of ore for honest code compliant miners making it harder for them to contribute to honest agents running costs and spam bots clutter local chat in the trade hubs making it harder for honest isk doublers to garner customers. But what is botting? well botting is having your computer play eve for you while you do something else.
Wether you are walking the dog while afk autopiloting or playing battlefield3 while afk mining IT DOESNT MATTER, you are having your computer play the game for you so you dont have to. Your as bad as an any bot and by fire you shall be purged for the good of the rest of us and the game. This game is the better with you being killed.
Say no to botting and to bot aspirancy: contact your local agent and get YOUR permit today. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Retar Aveymone
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:37:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote: 7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
all CODE members are welcome in nullsec, many fine code members are even in nullsec alliances |
Subject 4927
The Last Service.
67
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:49:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:Honestly, the core idea of the CODE is the only reason I can bare them.
Poster boys like loyal and some of the others are killing the ganker image. I know we're all suppose to defend anybody who does what we do, but the CODE is just bad after you move past the core goal, which is something I support. I do it all, I gank, Awox, Spai, WD, and everything else that the masses hate. I try to repair the damaged image that some of those bros have broken. I ventured into their channel to talk up a bit, loyal can't seem to take a joke and kicked me rather quickly. I compare the hierarchy of CODE to most buttmad carebears who are subjected to my services.
I mean... uhh yea you're wrong. code4lyfe Sorry, who are you?
Not a poster boy. I probably made you lose isk once. |
Fallen SEAL
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.06.07 13:38:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:OP - I've been trying to understand the deep immersion role player angle since I've started playing. I don't think I'll ever get it.
It's harmless until they start believing their made up play rules. It's hard to tell with the code guys. Most of them are deep immersion role players.
The New Order and CODE is not a Roleplaying Organization according to "their savior", see Here.
Quote:There are so many misconceptions about the New Order. It doesn't qualify as a "roleplaying" organization.
They don't roleplay, they do it for "tears" apparently because it is some kind of imaginary harvestable commodity in their fantasy world. |
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
14
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Posted - 2014.06.07 15:45:00 -
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YariLei wrote: Would it be more worthwhile getting better kills than shuttles
I once got 35 PLEX from a Rookie ship that was ganked on Jita undock, I didn't gank him I was just the quickest to the loot
Edit: turns out that even rookie ship and shuttle kills can get you a nice ISK efficiency on your KB, And a lot of ISK if the goods drop, I'd say they're completely justified ganks |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2434
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Posted - 2014.06.07 15:46:00 -
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Fallen SEAL wrote:The New Order and CODE is not a Roleplaying Organization according to "their savior", see Here.Quote:There are so many misconceptions about the New Order. It doesn't qualify as a "roleplaying" organization. They don't roleplay, they do it for "tears" apparently because it is some kind of imaginary harvestable commodity in their fantasy world.
Actually its not a roleplaying organization according to the other roleplayers and CCP:
Quote: There are so many misconceptions about the New Order. It doesn't qualify as a "roleplaying" organization. Indeed, few people in EVE speak more about game mechanics, the risk/reward balance, nerfs, CCP, petitions, and the like. (When I posted a copy of the Code on the general discussion subforum of EVE-O, a forum mod moved it to the roleplaying subforum. The roleplayers got mad, pointing out that it wasn't proper roleplay, and they successfully petitioned to have it moved out.)
Because we try to educate players about how to play the game instead of pledging loyalty to the Empress or pretending to work for the CEO of Allastra (not that there is anything wrong with that). The tears are merely a side effect of players coming to the realization that Eve isn't the game their misconceptions told them it was. Or as a RL instructor once told me:
Quote:Pain is weakness leaving the body.
"Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
88
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:11:00 -
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Fallen SEAL wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:OP - I've been trying to understand the deep immersion role player angle since I've started playing. I don't think I'll ever get it.
It's harmless until they start believing their made up play rules. It's hard to tell with the code guys. Most of them are deep immersion role players. The New Order and CODE is not a Roleplaying Organization according to "their savior", see Here.Quote:There are so many misconceptions about the New Order. It doesn't qualify as a "roleplaying" organization. They don't roleplay, they do it for "tears" apparently because it is some kind of imaginary harvestable commodity in their fantasy world.
Hey, you changed your bio!
No Joker quotes this time
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Vengance Inc.
78
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:39:00 -
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Its the code of swag, For the low low one time price of 50mil you can earn a mining permit for one year.
Send isk ingame with the reason "Permit discount" |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
301
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:40:00 -
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Fallen SEAL wrote:
They don't roleplay, they do it for "tears" apparently because it is some kind of imaginary harvestable commodity in their fantasy world.
EVE is a sci-fi universe, not a fantasy world. You should know this by now.
And minerbumping has bumper crops of tears. Every other post is just filled to the brim with RL death threats and sperging from people unable to cope with loss in a video game. You just can't put a value on good entertainment these days. "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
100
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Posted - 2014.06.08 00:01:00 -
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Subject 4927 wrote:loyalanon wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:Honestly, the core idea of the CODE is the only reason I can bare them.
Poster boys like loyal and some of the others are killing the ganker image. I know we're all suppose to defend anybody who does what we do, but the CODE is just bad after you move past the core goal, which is something I support. I do it all, I gank, Awox, Spai, WD, and everything else that the masses hate. I try to repair the damaged image that some of those bros have broken. I ventured into their channel to talk up a bit, loyal can't seem to take a joke and kicked me rather quickly. I compare the hierarchy of CODE to most buttmad carebears who are subjected to my services.
I mean... uhh yea you're wrong. code4lyfe Sorry, who are you? Not a poster boy.
Someone's jelly A True Champion of High Security Space |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
236
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Posted - 2014.06.08 03:09:00 -
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Subject 4927 wrote:loyalanon wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:Honestly, the core idea of the CODE is the only reason I can bare them.
Poster boys like loyal and some of the others are killing the ganker image. I know we're all suppose to defend anybody who does what we do, but the CODE is just bad after you move past the core goal, which is something I support. I do it all, I gank, Awox, Spai, WD, and everything else that the masses hate. I try to repair the damaged image that some of those bros have broken. I ventured into their channel to talk up a bit, loyal can't seem to take a joke and kicked me rather quickly. I compare the hierarchy of CODE to most buttmad carebears who are subjected to my services.
I mean... uhh yea you're wrong. code4lyfe Sorry, who are you? Not a poster boy.
I didn't think you were anyone important. I love being right.
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
304
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Posted - 2014.06.08 11:25:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote: This activity is regarded in my book as bannable for ALL of this so called alliance called CODE. I am at the point of wardeccing that entire alliance until the last one falls. I am sick and tired of their nonsense of the way they deal with AFKers and they have ABSOLUTELY no rights, they have ABSOLUTELY no endorsement from CCP to engage in what I see is illegal griefing beyond the point of no return plus.
James315 started this whole mess when he posted his rants (manifestos) a couple of years ago, where is he at now?? HIDING thats where. I may be a "NicePirate" but my blood boils. AFK autopiloting is NOT botting, nor is mining, if I need to go and take a break while mining thats MY RIGHT to do so. If CODE is so darn stupid to think they can control EVERY aspect of the game, I hate to see what would happen in nulsec.
If we don't see that wardec from you in a month or so, should I go ahead and shoot you a friendly reminder message?
And yes, we have plenty of endorsement from CCP. It's called game mechanics and PVP. Welcome to EVE! |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1210
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Posted - 2014.06.08 11:44:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Graabeerd Khagah wrote: This activity is regarded in my book as bannable for ALL of this so called alliance called CODE. I am at the point of wardeccing that entire alliance until the last one falls. I am sick and tired of their nonsense of the way they deal with AFKers and they have ABSOLUTELY no rights, they have ABSOLUTELY no endorsement from CCP to engage in what I see is illegal griefing beyond the point of no return plus.
James315 started this whole mess when he posted his rants (manifestos) a couple of years ago, where is he at now?? HIDING thats where. I may be a "NicePirate" but my blood boils. AFK autopiloting is NOT botting, nor is mining, if I need to go and take a break while mining thats MY RIGHT to do so. If CODE is so darn stupid to think they can control EVERY aspect of the game, I hate to see what would happen in nulsec.
If we don't see that wardec from you in a month or so, should I go ahead and shoot you a friendly reminder message? And yes, we have plenty of endorsement from CCP. It's called game mechanics and PVP. Welcome to EVE!
Maybe he's struggling with the wardec fee, with all the mining barges his "pirate corp" has been losing in Providence. Perhaps CODE. should help him out by putting the dec in for him?
www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
Subject 4927
The Last Service.
69
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Posted - 2014.06.08 16:00:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:loyalanon wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:Honestly, the core idea of the CODE is the only reason I can bare them.
Poster boys like loyal and some of the others are killing the ganker image. I know we're all suppose to defend anybody who does what we do, but the CODE is just bad after you move past the core goal, which is something I support. I do it all, I gank, Awox, Spai, WD, and everything else that the masses hate. I try to repair the damaged image that some of those bros have broken. I ventured into their channel to talk up a bit, loyal can't seem to take a joke and kicked me rather quickly. I compare the hierarchy of CODE to most buttmad carebears who are subjected to my services.
I mean... uhh yea you're wrong. code4lyfe Sorry, who are you? Not a poster boy. I didn't think you were anyone important. I love being right.
Can't really argue with RP folk. I applaud the CODE for taking the bait.
I probably made you lose isk once. |
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
18
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:44:00 -
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I highly endorse the work of CODE and all they stand for, All will in time learn to either obey or continue to lose ships to the Directive |
Yato Shihari
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
4
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:34:00 -
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Don't think too hard about it. |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
146
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Posted - 2014.06.09 01:28:00 -
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Please feel free to wardec CODE, I love having free wartargets to hunt. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum New Eden's Misfits Alliance
12
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Posted - 2014.06.09 05:52:00 -
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I support the CODE. Botters that strip systems of belts daily, traders who haul billions AFK and get away with it, Market order spam bots, and the like all deserve the risk CODE adds to the game.
Its a necessary movement, it controls market prices by removing "illegal Ore and Materials", prevents stagnation in the Mining ship markets as they need to constantly be replaced, same with catalysts and the respective mods.
Last year i remember when CODE was a small fry ( or at least seemed to be ), one or two people going around selling permits, ganking miners who refused, and the bumping of course. And today it encompasses several hundred pilots doing something amazing throughout all of High Sec
Its because of CODE high sec becomes a better place, one rebel at a time. So Join the Movement, or Be consumed by it Christopher "The Mabata" CEO, Black Ops Admiral, And Head US TZ Diplo Dominion Tenebrarum / New Eden's Misfits Alliance / The Dark Corner Coalition |
Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics CODE.
86
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Posted - 2014.06.09 12:28:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:This activity is regarded in my book as bannable for ALL of this so called alliance called CODE. I am at the point of wardeccing that entire alliance until the last one falls. I am sick and tired of their nonsense of the way they deal with AFKers and they have ABSOLUTELY no rights, they have ABSOLUTELY no endorsement from CCP to engage in what I see is illegal griefing beyond the point of no return plus.
James315 started this whole mess when he posted his rants (manifestos) a couple of years ago, where is he at now?? HIDING thats where. I may be a "NicePirate" but my blood boils. AFK autopiloting is NOT botting, nor is mining, if I need to go and take a break while mining thats MY RIGHT to do so. If CODE is so darn stupid to think they can control EVERY aspect of the game, I hate to see what would happen in nulsec.
LOL
I'm sure CODE is really scared of your 4 man corp with 3 kills and 67 deaths
http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=348302
LOL Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
minerbumping.com |
Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
139
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:25:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:
This activity is regarded in my book as bannable for ALL of this so called alliance called CODE. I am at the point of wardeccing that entire alliance until the last one falls. I am sick and tired of their nonsense of the way they deal with AFKers and they have ABSOLUTELY no rights, they have ABSOLUTELY no endorsement from CCP to engage in what I see is illegal griefing beyond the point of no return plus.
James315 started this whole mess when he posted his rants (manifestos) a couple of years ago, where is he at now?? HIDING thats where. I may be a "NicePirate" but my blood boils. AFK autopiloting is NOT botting, nor is mining, if I need to go and take a break while mining thats MY RIGHT to do so. If CODE is so darn stupid to think they can control EVERY aspect of the game, I hate to see what would happen in nulsec.
Don't forget about those of us not in the alliance! It's okay, I'm only in a 2 man corp, I won't hurt you too much Been ganked? Robbed? Space feelings hurt?-á Now there's something you can do! Fill out a Customer Service Comment Card!-á EIther that or contact everyone's favorite Space Detective for an instant ban! |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
147
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Posted - 2014.06.09 22:42:00 -
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The way I look at it, the market isn't a problem because it continues to sit there untouched when you log off. However your mining barge does not continue to mine when you log off, but it does if you go AFK. Likewise your freighter doesn't continue to jump gate to gate when you log off, but it does if you autopilot AFK. Anytime you go AFK you are letting your computer play the game for you. And that isn't good for Eve. When you update your orders then go AFK while in station, then come back and update again, there isn't any difference between that and if you had logged off for that period of time then logged back in to update again. As such, no, market PVP does not count as AFK bot-aspirancy. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:06:00 -
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There is an article on this where our Savior answers OPs question:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/08/what-about-afk-cloaking.html |
Jaxi Wreckful
The Conference Elite CODE.
8
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Posted - 2014.06.11 11:18:00 -
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loyalanon wrote:I don't even.
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Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
39
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Posted - 2014.06.11 15:32:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:7) good, you WILL NOT be welcomed in nulsec, period.
I lol'd at this one too. You should realize that All these 'gankers' and the entire basement-aspirant 'Code' is related to Highsec. 99% of their kills is highsec. Who cares about the way nullsec welcomes them?
also why would code members even go to null sec (with the exception of PvP seeking)? There are no bot-aspirant highsec carebears to gank there. Oh God.
However, if one day Code starts to consider nullbears as bot-aspirants, then it will be a different story. No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
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