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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.06.11 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv
I'd either adjust your definition of "gone" or you might have an existential crisis waking up and realizing by your own definition you do not exist.
Where in my post did I say "less than 700 members = gone"?
If less than 700 members means an alliance doesn't exist, CVA doesn't exist... Ushra'Khan doesn't exist... 
P.S. Don't smack. Come to Querious. If you really think we don't exist, you won't have any trouble, because clearly we won't have any defenses or POSs or anything.
--Proud member of the [23]--
-WTB Platinum Technite, WTS Nanotransistors, Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II-
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.11 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Leave the smack at home. If you can't help yourself i suggest stop posting. I believe this questions has been asked before and its somewhere on these forums, i just can't find.
QFT , and if i remember righlty that thread also ended up with flames in it , think some people would argue of the colour of sh*t to be honest 
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Tomsudy
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Posted - 2006.06.11 14:48:00 -
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I think PA was the oldest but they are in a demise atm
So probably 3FA, FIX, NORAD even FA have been around a long while. RA is not very old at all. I am sure people like SA are still up there. Also people in the east controling geminate, vale, and tribute seem to keep reforming under a different name ________________________________________
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.06.11 16:03:00 -
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If you count FIX as alive and not omgwtfbbq, then the oldest alliances will be 3FA and FIX. Group hug? 
The current NORAD is the second NORAD to exist in eve. The first one was disbanded (I think) and the one right now is a completely different one. SA of now is a reformed one, so I wouldn't count them. ===
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2006.06.11 16:31:00 -
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no its been said time and time again.. its cva.
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:03:00 -
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DS, please reread your post that I responded to. In case you had a hard time finding it, I posted it in my first response. That should answer your questions.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:11:00 -
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dead kittens, they are everywhere. what did they ever do to you? -------------------------------------------
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Torm Ilmater
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:57:00 -
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CVA is the oldest though I think NORAD & 3FA are close. Also, CVA has been in 0.0 (even if it is just next door to empire) for at LEAST a year and a half though I don't know if they've been there since their earliest days or not.
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Murukan
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:05:00 -
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kind of funny that DS is saying FA is dead. Atleast they don't take it in the arse from BoB and proclaim how happy they are.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:09:00 -
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Err, this took me about 2 seconds to look up ingame:
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03 3rd Front Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 13:58 Fountain Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 17:31
FIX was founded a day later, Phoenix alliance TWO days later.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:16:00 -
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Fountain, 3FA and XETIC were all formed on the same day, the first ones.
3FA and Fountain still have some life in them, don't they?
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:23:00 -
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As Elve said.... remarkable how there is an in-game function for this. 
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Snodgey2004
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Err, this took me about 2 seconds to look up ingame:
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03 3rd Front Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 13:58 Fountain Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 17:31
FIX was founded a day later, Phoenix alliance TWO days later.
Thats when the IGA alliance came too , alot of them alliances were around before you could have alliance tags proper , if you know what i mean
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Snodgey2004
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Err, this took me about 2 seconds to look up ingame:
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03 3rd Front Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 13:58 Fountain Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 17:31
FIX was founded a day later, Phoenix alliance TWO days later.
Thats when the IGA alliance came too , alot of them alliances were around before you could have alliance tags proper , if you know what i mean
Under those circumstances, I'd say that FA is the oldest Alliance in-game then. The fact that they are publically recruiting points to the fact that they are still alive, it's also notable that they have a couple of their original corporations still. Not going to comment on other factors like claimed space, 0.0 presence, size, etc... There is a lot of room in there for perceptions.
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Aldir Rundal
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Posted - 2006.06.11 18:49:00 -
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If you're talking about the oldest Alliance ingame to still exist with active members, then it's FA. If it's the longest to control and hold space, then it's CVA. If we're talking still around and still beating people down then it's FIX.
A hint in the future would be to set a guideline on how you define "still alife". Then we can argue about the set guidelines, not the ones that don't exist. 
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2006.06.11 19:07:00 -
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Well glad to see 3FA still around. They been around since forever, I know I started that alliance. Good job to those who have kept it together over the time and managed to do whatever it took to keep claim of the same space for that same amount of time.
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.06.11 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Err, this took me about 2 seconds to look up ingame:
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03 3rd Front Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 13:58 Fountain Alliance, founded 2004.11.24 17:31
FIX was founded a day later, Phoenix alliance TWO days later.
Yea but alliances existed before exodus came out.
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2006.06.11 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Fountain, 3FA and XETIC were all formed on the same day, the first ones.
3FA and Fountain still have some life in them, don't they?
If you assume the current FA is ressurected and xetic is dead (it is isnt it?), then 3FA stands as the oldest surviving *registered* alliance.
But talking from the very beginning of things CVA would be the oldest, compared to them we're relatively young  -
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Tamora
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Posted - 2006.06.11 21:01:00 -
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i though HUZZAH was pretty old. they had a chat room like when i started playing.
Join chat channel 'OMG-ROFL' |

jbob2000
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Posted - 2006.06.11 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/06/2006 11:48:03
Originally by: Geralt Rivia
Originally by: Pepperami http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/
3FA, FIX & Norad are oldest I think looking at that list.
when u count FIX as alive, then i would say FA is oldest.
  
We've got about 700 active members, raid our enemies daily, and still live in 0.0, so I'd count that as alive .
"FIX consists of 13 member corporations, 522 pilots reside under its sovereignty."
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Phoenix Pryde
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Posted - 2006.06.11 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03
Xetic forever \o/ Xetic will never die 
yarrr 
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hangnoose
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tamora i though HUZZAH was pretty old. they had a chat room like when i started playing.
According to the ingame huzzah was founded in January 05. Old, but not old enough.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.06.11 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Xetic Federation, founded 2004.11.24 13:03
Xetic forever \o/ Xetic will never die 
yarrr 
Xetic Forever
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:07:00 -
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SA ftw!
Been there before every1 else..
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Zoltaris
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Posted - 2006.06.12 03:15:00 -
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FA as been said to be dead so many times, still, it never went under 400 players as far as i know, when our corporation was in FA, we kept fighting against BoB and Xelas, whatever the BoB propaganda could have said, ships were lost on both side every days, well, we fighted much more against Xelas than BoB, so when you looked at BoB killboard, you weren't seeing many kills from us, which i guess made it looking like we really weren't doing much...
Anyway, our corporation has left FA since then, not because we weren't able to keep going as it was but because a great opportunity came with the creation of the TCF alliance, an opportunity we just couldn't miss
Anyway, if i remember right, FA was the 2nd official alliance in EVE (SA was the 1st i think), this was before alliances could be created officially and just before CA was created
FA never really died, yeah, it has been greatly reduced in power if we compate it from its glorious days, and has been forced in guerilla warfare for a while, but FA is still there and is getting back on his feet
So, without a doubt, to me, FA is the oldest alliance still alive and that never died (even if it as been claimed dead at least half a dozen of times ) -----
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.06.12 03:49:00 -
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Stain, in one incarnation or another
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Deb Loblaw
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Posted - 2006.06.12 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Randay dead kittens, they are everywhere. what did they ever do to you?
They tried to prevent me from masturbating.
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Gwath
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Posted - 2006.06.12 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: Gwath on 12/06/2006 06:30:29 Edited by: Gwath on 12/06/2006 06:30:08
Originally by: Deb Loblaw
Originally by: Randay dead kittens, they are everywhere. what did they ever do to you?
They tried to prevent me from masturbating.
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DeWieKat
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Posted - 2006.06.12 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: DeWieKat on 12/06/2006 07:06:56
Originally by: shivan Stain, in one incarnation or another
signed.
Stain - doesnŠt matter sa or se.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.06.12 07:42:00 -
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SA does deserve some mention since in one form or another Trigger has stayed a prominent entity down there
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