Why not join the side you feel has the greatest chance for victory?

But also;

If you feel the Cold War analogy is accurate, simply wait for the financially or politically less secure side to implode.

Question 1: If PL/NCDot did not pose a threat to the SOV/income safety of the GSF Coalition pet Alliances, would there be a need for this coalition?

Question 2: If PL/NCDot were to offer a one year NIP to all the pet GSF Coalition Alliances so these Alliances could extract themselves from the GSF GÇ£ServicesGÇ¥ crack pipe, would they accept it?

Question 3: Would it help if PL/NCDot were to agree that during the one year NIP they would apply pressure on GSF space so as to allow the recovering Alliances to shore up their borders, infrastructure, and space?

Question 4: Does GSF have their hooks (services and spies) so deep into all these pet Alliances that there is actually no way out for them?

Question 5: Will the GSF Coalition go down as one of EVEGÇÖs biggest and longest running scams?

Question 6: Are GSF Coalition Alliances more afraid of what GSF will do to them if they decide to leave the Coalition or of what GSF claims PL/NCDot will do to them if they leave?
(RIP TN)..

Stuff

All you do is assume every single person is a brainwashed moron playing the Mittanis game joining huge fleets to F1 and then ratting the rest of the time to buy more ships to fight

...and we get to experience nearly every aspect of eve among many other things.

For all those benefits we have to put in a little work (POS shoots and strat ops)

I really wish people could get past this crazy elitist hatred for goonswarm/CFC

Which side has more Russians?

Might want to look at what you just said. "We bash towers and go on strat ops so we can essentially do what everyone else already does.




If by crazy hatred, you mean we point out that as outsiders of your coalition, all you are at essence is over glorified renters for their 'max bodies' method of winning sov wars (which is really the only way they can win); then ok, sure.

The only people that have some obsessive hatred for GoonSwarm or it's allies are by and large completely irrelevant pubbies that you all continuously provoke just so you can say 'hey- those guys hate us', none of the players really give a ****.

Are you attempting to imply that PL never asks its members to shoot towers or do anything else for the alliance as a requirement for being there?

It dosent matter if the CFC used numbers to win because ultimately they are still winning, all you SP and all you Supers amount to nothing more than wasted years against the superior tactic of diplomacy and numbers.

Also judging from Podside which is what spawned this thread its far only being high sec that hates the CFC, it seems like nearly every non CFC entity despises us.

Seems pretty narcissistic if you ask me, I'd say most people simply don't care no matter how hard you try and convince them otherwise. 'GRRGoons' is only a thing in smaller groups like TEST and a few low-sec groups.

I do love that the N3/PL side put out so much propaganda saying that the CFC / GSF are so very very bad.. and that being on their side makes you a mindless pleb.. and blames them for the 'current' Null stagnation..

...and they day the shooting starts we can see who is 'right'

It won't change anything for you when that day comes, because -a- will still be ****.

That was going to end bad for you.

OP has been reading a bit too much greedygoblin.blogspot.com

Doubtful.

I only post on SA to give deadtear minor aneurysms, pretty sure it works.

You sound as sure as Gevlon and his mater schemes. You're probably right.